Hi Guys, I'm having headache deciding my next SUV. Currently I have narrowed it down to these 3/ What I understand is

Nissan X trail, spacious compare the other 2.
Just release new version on 2016
clip gear mechanism. ( for overtaking purpose )
Reduce noise at high speed
7 seaters
Good Parking System

Mazda CX-5
Better FC compare with the other 2
Have better engine performace ( Speed )

Guys any advice on this as this Saturday I will be going down to these showroom for test drive

advise? test drive all, pick the one you fancy most.

avoid rav4

X-trail if not mistaken only comes with 2 airbags

CX-5 is Car of The Year 2016...with 6 airbags, advise is to get 2.5L variant, or wait for 2017 model


at the end of the day...it's your own wallet so...

This post has been edited by lyc1982: Mar 8 2017, 11:33 AM

i'd go for x trail. cx-5 new model launched in Japan but not yet arrive in M'sia

CR-V will launch soon. Turbo. spacious & good FC. Plz wait a while..

2.5l is too much for my current usage. I do not need 2.5l for driving city or highway. It seems like 2.0 will be just nice for me.

Is there any news when will the new CX-5 released? Is it facelift version? Cause I have finished paying loan for my old saga fl. I need to sell it off before the selling price drop as the new saga model has released.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 8 2017, 11:39 AM

Honda and Korean Car are not in my Radar.. It is due to family preference hahaaha

Buy 2.5ltr version for such big and heavy cars. The 2.0 are all under powered/very sluggish. For CX5 also better wait, coz if not mistaken the new one will be released soon.

Agree on 2.5

If really can , the. 2.2 diesel is an amazing engine

This post has been edited by rcracer: Mar 8 2017, 12:52 PM

trust me...2.0L is sluggish compared to 2.5L, highway is better to drive 2.5L or 2.2L diesel

latest news is by Q4 this year will launch new CX-5...not only facelift but also new engines

throw in the new subaru forester as well...

go test drive one

forester slightly more expensive than XV...can consider XV as well but the appearance is not as attractive as CX-5

if ts can afford it, and can tahan the forrester's looks.... give this a try, its very well speed...

XV is slightly smaller...or should i say it falls into HRV category....

talking bout xtrail, cx-5,crv...the forester is in this size category.... (including those korean suv also)

but the santa-fe tebo diesel 6at is very nice to drive and sit inside

Hm... I maybe can consider waiting this new model released. But I heard that the price will be hiked by another 10k to 20k. Not sure whether it is true or not

it is not easy to get cheap spare parts for Subaru right? Cause Subaru is kinda rare in the market.

straight to the point here, dont expect to get cheap parts from mazda or nissan either. mazda being the most exp of the lot.

I saw toyota rav4 in the option .
Not much grey importer take the latest gen rav4 into malaysia due to the price similiar than harrier .

Ts want to buy used or new car ?

correct me if i am wrong...subaru technical support is kinda lacking compared to mazda in msia ?

Actually Nissan is still fine for getting spare parts in Malaysia. Cause I myself have Almera as well. XD. Mazda wise, I'm not sure. Subaru is really hard to get in JB.

I want to get new car. I myself do not really trust second hand car. Are they no longer release new RAV version?

I think so, at least there are few service centre in Johor compare with Subaru.

Well I do not mind using my Proton Saga for another year just to wait new Mazda CX-5. I heard that it will only be released next year. Just that my Proton is almost reaching the time where I need to change my timing belt. :S

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 8 2017, 01:46 PM

Just sharing some info with you.

Nissan X-Trail Problems | CarsGuide
https://www.carsguide.com.au/nissan/x-trail/problems

Top 569 Complaints and Reviews about Mazda
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/mazda.htm


This post has been edited by TakingOff: Mar 8 2017, 02:22 PM

Well , the all new cx-5 looks promising too. Its worth to wait 🙄

i heard the new cx-5 will be launch sometime around end of the year, and the pricing will be increased between 10k - 15k from current models, thats y there r alot of promotions going on for mazda.

Yeah. I just watched the review for 2017 cx-5.. Man I can say is..... usb port everywhere. . There is also air con and backrow.



Yeah, the price hike up another 20k compare previous model. Question is, will that 20k worth it for the remodeling? Understand the engine will be different, but we do not know how's the performance.

Exterior wise, I personally prefer the existing cx-5. Interior I prefer 2017 version.

A lot of people are saying 2.5 is better for SUV. But I really not sure... cause the price difference is like another 20k. It may hike up to 160k. So ya... I will test drive 2.0 and 2.5 to feel the difference this weekend first. If the passanger is just 1 and 1 driver. I do not think there will be lots of differences between.

I try not to overspend on vehicle as need to prepare to buy house.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 8 2017, 03:49 PM

i have a cx5 2.0L, been having it the for the past 5 years, honestly 2.0 is sufficient for city and highway driving

CX-5 obviously is the one..
th FL version do have better NVH compare before, 2.0 is good enough.. but Skyactiv-D is the best but too expensive
sound system in all three, CX5 is the best.. did try both Xtrail n CX-5 before, that center console to control the audio unit is a lot better..

as for ride refinement, Xtrail n CX-5 is similar feel.. maybe because both SUV, a bit on hard side.. so rear passenger comfortable not that good compare CRV

fuel consumption, CX5 not spectacular but good enough if u drive normally even for 2.0 petrol, diesel is the best of course..

agree on this..

x-trail looks so handsome

Ok. I will think through it first on whether waiting for 2017 CX-5 or just get the existing 2016 CX-5 and sell off my Saga FL.

Well I suppose under powered/sluggish is depending on people's habit. If you're used to slow cars and driving that slow then yeah the 2.0 might be good enough already. There surely is a very noticeable difference between the 2.0 and 2.5ltr versions. Same case with comparing 2.0 vs 2.5 ltr d-segment sedans. Note also the average FC might be worse in the 2.0 as it's an under powered engine forced to push such a heavy car. IMHO if you just want to settle with 2.0 NA engines, then better just buy smaller cheaper SUV like Subaru XV or something.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Mar 8 2017, 07:12 PM

If you like more stylish futuristic design and extra gadgets, wait for new CX5. If you prefer conventional solid design that is nice, go for current CX5. C-segment SUV, 2.0L is adequate to pull around as long as it has descent strong torque engine coupled with strong 6AT gearbox.

New CX5, if they could get the CKD early it should be rm145_15xk range for 2.0L. Mazda look at Malaysia as its job to cater for ASEAN market, they might bring in at faster pace.

The SUV I'm getting is more on spacious and family car. That's why I'm looking at mid size SUV as mini SUV like HRV, Subaru SV, and even Toyota upcoming CHR will not cater much for my needs. My brother in law is driving Innova 2.0 right now with 5 people in the seat. But I do not see so much issue underpower, and his FC is quite fine. His driving style is quite fine as well.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. It's impossible for Mazda to have 2017 empty without any new released. Or else they will be out of market easily. I'm hoping it can arrive around Q3 2017. The timing will be just right. Extra Gadgets are nice, but you know. Tech keeps involving, nobody use USB2.0 already. Even they implemented USB3.0. 10 years down the road, USB might be even obselete. So it was just like a...... Gimmick.

But the best things of the 2017 version I saw is the improvement of the quietness during driving. They claim it was 20km/h slower in getting the noise comparing with 2016. This is something I'm looking forward, as well as the Diesel version, but I worried Malaysia Diesel is a bit.... ahem.... might spoil the car. So we will see how it goes.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the feedback. I think I will wait for the CX-5 2017 version released then I will only sell my Proton Saga FL. But this weekend I will still go for test drive at Mazda, Nissan, & Toyota. Hoping I can concrete my current decision.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 9 2017, 08:43 AM

2.0 NA rubbish engine to push heavy car + full load passengers = bad fuel consumption, better pick 2.2 sky-activ D 2.2 engine, BTW diesel engine more durable than gasoline engine, more better FC as well and engine much last longer lasting up to 7 years, peace of mind and can use rest of money to buy house.

Seems like no one comparing 2017 cx5 and crv?

Cause i opted out Honda in my list due to family reason. XD

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 9 2017, 08:57 AM

Diesel engine is fine use in Malaysia, even more reliable than gasoline one, gasoline NA engine is better in small car like saga, myvi, axia... (1500cc and below) bigger car like suv, mpv better pick diesel turbocharged engine, Toyota and Nissan diesel engine is excellent too, but their bigger size vehicle with gasoline is terrible fuel consumption and very underpower. (Except 3500 cc and above, but don't dream good FC, power and torque is nice) That's my driving experience.

For diesel , you won't know until you try it out the difference it makes when driving .

Yeah 2.0 the car still move bla bla but the diesel does it a lot more relaxed , if you do a lot of long drives , you will find at the end of the trip a lot less tired

And the car feels a lot smaller because there's enough torque to zip in and out

As long you use euro5 diesel , won't have any problems but Mazda did test already with euro2 for over 3 years with a company car Mazda 6 , no issues and that's why they pushed ahead with diesel models

+1

Well like I said that means you and your brother are just used to driving slow in under powered heavy cars. If like me, even a 2.5 ltr d-segment sedan with more than 200hp now feels slow already! Few days ago I drove my friend's 2.0 Lancer GT also felt very sluggish, no oomph whatsoever. I cannot imagine if driving such big SUV with also similar power to the Lancer GT but much heavier body would feel like, I'd probably fall asleep in it! Same like driving my wife's 1.6ltr Livina. Innova FC is usually not good btw. Never mind, just test drive all versions first. If you're still fine with the sluggish 2.0 then just go ahead.

Yup diesel surely will have better pick up and feel more powerful due to fatter torque at low rpm but will soon run out of breath as it cannot rev high, but that's fine for SUV or pick up truck type of car. At least still much better than the puny 2.0 NA. Such 2.0 NA engines only suitable for C segment cars.

That's why diesel demand 7th and 8th gears comes to play, imagine 8th gear 2000 rpm already 160km/h, plus install performance chip will became different story and demon will unleashed! Wide range gears ratio is very good in many different driving conditions. BTW high rev = high fuel consumption. and for me 140 km/h speed is more than enough for my daily driving.

If money not an issues porsche cayenne. Since most people here recommend to go for a higher priced car like a retarded anyway 😂

Bro , may i know your driving experience from ?

Do you know whats the different price between base spec cx-5 2.0 and cx-5 2.2 diesel ? 😑

Edit : the diesel also ckd

Otr 2.0 kosong is 140
2.2 is 170



This post has been edited by rcracer: Mar 9 2017, 01:05 PM

Still no price for diesel variant, maybe will coming soon in this year.

Been here since last year june, we actually assemble the cx5 here for Philippine and thai market, assembly already since beginning of local ckd

Ok , with the price different nearly 30k on 2.0base and 2.2diesel . How do ppls think ?

I never drive that 2.2d cx5 before . But the 420nm torque on spec seems great to pull this cow !

Back to topic , TS going to wait for new gen cx-5 , thats worth to wait 🙄

Now its just whether the price is fine for me to get it or not. And we do not know when it will release.

30k worth the investment

The engine is that superb , plus a lot more extras

This weekend Mazda federal got carnival you can drive all models to your heart content

The diesel has been on sale in Malaysia since June 2016  MazdaCX5.pdf ( 2.34mb ) Number of downloads: 36

 MazdaCX5_FL_CKD_Price_W_.pdf ( 1.05mb ) Number of downloads: 55


This post has been edited by rcracer: Mar 9 2017, 03:00 PM

What I mean is the 2017 version diesel.

Japan just started selling , earliest will be end of the year

O well, I guess I have to use my Proton Saga FL for a little longer then....

the new skyactiv D is lighter due to low compression for its diesel engine.. while normal diesel engine need to build it tough because need to withstand the high compression for its internal combustion
summore its expensive compare 2.0 petrol model..
are sure its fuel consumption is really bad for CX-5 2.0 petrol model? do you know how bad the CRV 2.0 model fuel consumption?

Under current economy, wiser for you to take own sweet time before getting committed. Rumours of election this year end, better to have more cash than owning the bank. Good thing of getting brand new CX5 with fighter jet air intake style grille, it's brand new and the feel is different. Malaysia is Mazda hub for ASEAN market, they sure will speed things up since CX5 is hot seller in Thailand. Unlike CX9 which has low demand in ASEAN market above affordability of most people

wait for CRV 2017..coming soon

Thailand spec cr-v already on tease and will launch end of this month .

Btw i dont think honda malaysia will fully ckd such as thailand high spec .

In fact cx-5 lead its segment sales on its entirement life in malaysia , i hope this cr-v can challenge it 🙄




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I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought

Nissan X Trail -

Very pleasant drive. I do not feel like I'm driving SUV at all with such handling and feeling. It has almost the same feeling as driving my Almera. The 360 Degree camera is no joke. It is really good. It makes the parking even more pleasant. ( Especially for my wife ). My parents really like the spacious seat behind when they are sitting behind. Comes with Air con behind as well. There is barely noise from outside while driving in highway. The accelerator engine sound is almost same as Almera, but the gear changing is somehow.... very smooth.... like buttery smooth, unlike Almera.

Bad things is well.... The accessories is not much and not so "high tech" as Mazda CX-5. The handbrake is still using mechanical type instead of electronic type. The 2.0 version headlamp is not HUD light. For the airbag, I have no complaint even though it is just 2. Cause safety wise Nissan claimed they are concentrate on the Active which is the car body structure instead of passive ( like air bag ). But I will take his word as pinch of salt. Overall, good driving experience with old tech features.

Mazda CX-5

Pleasant drive as well, not as pleasant as X Trail, but at least I do not feel stress while driving it. This car has been proved to be much powerful than X Trail. I did try to release break on the slide to see its reaction. X Trail will remain its position, while CX-5.... will keep moving forward. The tech inside is very nice, electronic handbreak, ease of control in screen via the control button in the middle. The overall body is much much stable. Cornering is much much stable. The design wise. I think no other SUV can beat CX-5 Interior Design. Its just amazing.

Bad things is...... Engine noise. Well the noise is kinda significant during highway driving comparing with X Trail. Behind its not so spacious as X trail, I can see my parents legging left a little bit of space. Parking system is normal to me. Nothing fancy on that. Behind it. The item that will cover behind, there is no place for me to store it. It can only be put inside. X Trail has the space for place it beneth it.

Now headache is, Nissan is currently having the event. The discount rebate is provided a lot compare with Mazda. Wait and there is more, I was notified I can order the 2017 Mazda CX-5 !!! Can you believe that? Price will be the same, and different is just the remodeling interior and exterior. Transmission, Engine, all remained the same. And no additional feature like xtra usb port behind the seat, the power door behind. However, there will be no rebate for 2017 mazda cx-5.

So, I'm in dilemma right now.

P/S: Do not hammer me if there is something that you disagree. The above comment is really based on my test drive.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 11 2017, 01:47 PM

Why didn't you test the 2.5ltr version?

[quote=Jet23sky,Mar 11 2017, 01:46 PM]I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought [quote]

Hi , may i know what is the current discount for x-trail now ? 2016 and 2017 ?

This post has been edited by Actchan: Mar 11 2017, 02:39 PM

[quote=6UE5T,Mar 11 2017, 02:32 PM]
Why didn't you test the 2.5ltr version?

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Cause after I tested 2.0ltr version, I found out that it is sufficient for my ride. In the car there is 4 persons including me, but I do not feel any issue moving the car.


[quote=Actchan,Mar 11 2017, 02:38 PM]
[quote=Jet23sky,Mar 11 2017, 01:46 PM]I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought [quote]

Hi , may i know what is the current discount for x-trail now ? 2016 and 2017 ?

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The current discount is RM6k with additional another RM1k if confirmed today as there is an event ongoing today.

Should've just tested 2.5 also so you know the comparison, no harm anyway.

Looking at new Civic and City, think honda will give more to get number 1 spot. Matsuda on the other end, when they see CRV giving full package, Matsuda will give full too. Both will clash like titans while finishing off other weaker ones.

So in conclusion which one will u go for?

Cx-5 ...although good handling, suspension too stiff and not comfort as pessener or even driver. The FL version looks most luxury among all. Lowest fuel consumption.
X-trail ....2.5L is perfect but 2.0L not only sluggish but the cvt gearbox sound very loud and weird.
Subaru forester.. good handling, good power for 2L engine, less vibration, interior acceptable, nice AWD.suspension not as stiff as cx-5. But higher maintenance cost. Got huge discount for 2016 model.
Crv ..... 2.0 better thsn x trail in term of power but 2.4 dissapointed. Very comfort drive with soft suspension. Also mean more rolling when do cornering. Huge space and practical. Low maintenance.

I don't think you'll go wrong with any of the above

It's down to personal preference on the driving position, driving feel, it's looks and which brand you prefer more

How you feel sitting inside the driver seats holding the steering is most important. They say car is like a living machine and you can feel it if the car is right for you or not

Bro, did u ask TanChong what does the 7 years warranty covers?
Does it cover free labour, material and parts during this 7 years?

Seems only engine gearbox , not wear and tear parts

You are mixing warranty with service , warranty is something breaks , service is normal parts must replace for proper operation

And 7 years warranty means 7 years servicing at tan chong with overfinalted pricing

I end up might be getting HRV instead haha. Even though I did mention Honda is out of my scope due to family reason, but seriously, getting a 1.8cc car only cost around RM102k is just a pure bargain!!

No matter how good is the car, or how good is the performance, it still lead to the last thing..... MONEY. Not because of no money getting CX-5 or Xtrail. Maybe its because I'm spending most of my time working and staying in Singapore, only weekend go back to JB. Most of the time the car will be driven by my parents. And they rarely drive to highway, mostly are just city run. So getting RM130k car is not really worth it for me. It is best save it for getting house in Singapore.

Like I mentioned before, I change car is because of getting rid of my Proton Saga FL before it has problem. So I guess any car upgrade other than Proton is really work for me.

This weekend will be going down to Honda Showroom. Most likely I will confirm the purchase this weekend. Heck, its still a SUV, but compact version with CVT gearbox.


Not really asking into too deep regarding the content of the 7 years warranty covers. But do not expect anything spoil can be changed easily, definitely there is something that it will not be covered due to wear and tear, for example leathers. Its more on the engine, or maybe performance on the vehicle itself.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 21 2017, 01:28 PM

.... And the final result is.. (drumroll).... Honda HRV!!

Your post shows why many going for HRV. Have you checked the rest of the SUVs and tell me the discount?

Actually hr-v is wise choice too , with no direct rival on its 1.8 b-segment suv , another hot selling model by honda .

Cx-3 cant get good sales in malaysia with its 2.0 + stylish combo . Because ? The 130k price tag ...

Ts , why not consider subaru xv ? Its bargain too 🙄

Work in Singapore? I thought in Singapore Subaru is quite popular. Now that Subaru is assembled by Tan Chong, the parts are no more scarce. Unless you are looking for 7 seater, the Forester 2.0 premium is more high tech than even 2.5 CX5 I believe and also has 7 airbags

CX3 is so expensive that top up a bit can get C segment SUV. Surprisingly, the cx3 could sell at healthy volume & doesn't cannibalise cx5 sales. If cx3 priced at rm110k, it might beat HRV

Tell me that when you see cx-5 leather wrap start peeling after 1-2 years.

So far only nissan and mazda. Honda will be this weekend.

Subaru resale value is really really bad.... though the price does look attractive with good rebate

Only in singapore. Cant really buy a car in sg now cause the coe paper will cost your sgd80k. Lol. Like i mentiond above. Resale value for subaru is really bad

But cx3 the cargo space is really really bad. Good for driving with couple. But not good for family.

Jb plentong u can go there have a look

Again with CVT, sux....

If you're free, can you go try few models too? Then share the offer and discount of few brands and models here.

You're right about CX3, those who bought mostly single or couple. It's tight and cramped yet people go for it. Really good marketing there. HRV is of course more spacious and family oriented

Hi, I already ordered HR-V V model this morning. I think this will be a good bargain of having SUV car with around 120k price point. Now I need to prepare to get video car camera, blind spot mirror and other accessories for my new car arrived. According to the dealer, the car will only be arrive within 2 months. That's quite long I would say. But for me should be fine as I can still drive Nissan Almera during that period of time.

Do ever consider Isuzu MU-X ?
Is diesel turbo 2.5 engine ... is a good car ...

My father will need to think on the resale value as well as spare parts availability in future. Isuzu might not good for future maintenance / resale.

But what do you think of the resale value of Honda, Nissan, Mazda?

For future maintain , Isuzu should be a problem, if you ask your dad, he definitely know the previous model which is Isuzu Trooper , until today the car still running ...
And do you offense saw any Isuzu vehicle brake down at road side ?

Definitely I do agree, resale value can't compare to others brand like Toyota , Honda or Nissan ... But ask you a question,, can you tell me any car brand won't depreciate car value ?

Tell me, can any SUV perform such reliability rough in critical condition in such heavy rain happens now in klang valley ?


Guys , do you know ,, every car after one year it's happened to be depreciated at 30% ...
So as u guys always thought , brand like Toyota , Honda or others brand will sell more higher resell value then others brand ...

This is reasons because the car price model is higher spec .. Is simple calculation ,,,

Higher car price $$ - 30% vs Lowest car price - 30%

Which one do u guys think more higher resell value ?

This is just not only toyota or honda dealer said this, even Mazda and Nissan dealers agree that people rather get better resale price on Toyota and Honda rather than Suzuki, Isuzu or sometime even Mazda. Yes the Depreciation started -30% one the first day I hold the key. But the key things is, the resale price difference. You should check with those reseller people on this, sometimes they do not even want to take Isuzu Suzuki car etc cause they worried they cannot sell it off. Reseller still needs to earn money you know.

According to the information i got it from different brand dealer, currently Honda, Toyota and even Perodua has better resale value. Proton, Mazda and Nissan have very bad resell value unless sell it to the same brand dealer.