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 Mazda CX-5 2.0 or Nissan X Trail 2.0 or Toyota RAV, Each has their own strength and weakness

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6UE5T
post Mar 8 2017, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 8 2017, 11:22 AM)
Hi Guys, I'm having headache deciding my next SUV. Currently I have narrowed it down to these 3/ What I understand is

Nissan X trail, spacious compare the other 2.
Just release new version on 2016
clip gear mechanism. ( for overtaking purpose )
Reduce noise at high speed
7 seaters
Good Parking System

Mazda CX-5
Better FC compare with the other 2
Have better engine performace ( Speed )

Guys any advice on this as this Saturday I will be going down to these showroom for test drive
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Buy 2.5ltr version for such big and heavy cars. The 2.0 are all under powered/very sluggish. For CX5 also better wait, coz if not mistaken the new one will be released soon.
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post Mar 8 2017, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 8 2017, 03:48 PM)
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A lot of people are saying 2.5 is better for SUV. But I really not sure... cause the price difference is like another 20k. It may hike up to 160k. So ya... I will test drive 2.0 and 2.5 to feel the difference this weekend first. If the passanger is just 1 and 1 driver. I do not think there will be lots of differences between.

I try not to overspend on vehicle as need to prepare to buy house.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(munk3y @ Mar 8 2017, 03:56 PM)
i have a cx5 2.0L, been having it the for the past 5 years, honestly 2.0 is sufficient for city and highway driving
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Well I suppose under powered/sluggish is depending on people's habit. If you're used to slow cars and driving that slow then yeah the 2.0 might be good enough already. There surely is a very noticeable difference between the 2.0 and 2.5ltr versions. Same case with comparing 2.0 vs 2.5 ltr d-segment sedans. Note also the average FC might be worse in the 2.0 as it's an under powered engine forced to push such a heavy car. IMHO if you just want to settle with 2.0 NA engines, then better just buy smaller cheaper SUV like Subaru XV or something.

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post Mar 9 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 9 2017, 08:43 AM)
The SUV I'm getting is more on spacious and family car. That's why I'm looking at mid size SUV as mini SUV like HRV, Subaru SV, and even Toyota upcoming CHR will not cater much for my needs. My brother in law is driving Innova 2.0 right now with 5 people in the seat. But I do not see so much issue underpower, and his FC is quite fine. His driving style is quite fine as well.
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Well like I said that means you and your brother are just used to driving slow in under powered heavy cars. If like me, even a 2.5 ltr d-segment sedan with more than 200hp now feels slow already! laugh.gif Few days ago I drove my friend's 2.0 Lancer GT also felt very sluggish, no oomph whatsoever. I cannot imagine if driving such big SUV with also similar power to the Lancer GT but much heavier body would feel like, I'd probably fall asleep in it! biggrin.gif Same like driving my wife's 1.6ltr Livina. Innova FC is usually not good btw. Never mind, just test drive all versions first. If you're still fine with the sluggish 2.0 then just go ahead.

QUOTE(Harold2009 @ Mar 9 2017, 08:54 AM)
2.0 NA rubbish engine to push heavy car + full load passengers = bad fuel consumption, better pick 2.2 sky-activ D 2.2 engine, BTW diesel engine more durable than gasoline engine, more better FC as well and engine much last longer lasting up to 7 years, peace of mind and can use rest of money to buy house.  biggrin.gif
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Yup diesel surely will have better pick up and feel more powerful due to fatter torque at low rpm but will soon run out of breath as it cannot rev high, but that's fine for SUV or pick up truck type of car. At least still much better than the puny 2.0 NA. Such 2.0 NA engines only suitable for C segment cars.
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post Mar 11 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 11 2017, 01:46 PM)
I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought

Nissan X Trail -

Very pleasant drive. I do not feel like I'm driving SUV at all with such handling and feeling. It has almost the same feeling as driving my Almera. The 360 Degree camera is no joke. It is really good. It makes the parking even more pleasant. ( Especially for my wife ). My parents really like the spacious seat behind when they are sitting behind. Comes with Air con behind as well. There is barely noise from outside while driving in highway. The accelerator engine sound is almost same as Almera, but the gear changing is somehow.... very smooth.... like buttery smooth, unlike Almera.

Bad things is well.... The accessories is not much and not so "high tech" as Mazda CX-5. The handbrake is still using mechanical type instead of electronic type. The 2.0 version headlamp is not HUD light. For the airbag, I have no complaint even though it is just 2. Cause safety wise Nissan claimed they are concentrate on the Active which is the car body structure instead of passive ( like air bag ). But I will take his word as pinch of salt. Overall, good driving experience with old tech features.

Mazda CX-5

Pleasant drive as well, not as pleasant as X Trail, but at least I do not feel stress while driving it. This car has been proved to be much powerful than X Trail. I did try to release break on the slide to see its reaction. X Trail will remain its position, while CX-5.... will keep moving forward. The tech inside is very nice, electronic handbreak, ease of control in screen via the control button in the middle. The overall body is much much stable. Cornering is much much stable. The design wise. I think no other SUV can beat CX-5 Interior Design. Its just amazing.

Bad things is...... Engine noise. Well the noise is kinda significant during highway driving comparing with X Trail. Behind its not so spacious as X trail, I can see my parents legging left a little bit of space. Parking system is normal to me. Nothing fancy on that. Behind it. The item that will cover behind, there is no place for me to store it. It can only be put inside. X Trail has the space for place it beneth it.

Now headache is, Nissan is currently having the event. The discount rebate is provided a lot compare with Mazda. Wait and there is more, I was notified I can order the 2017 Mazda CX-5 !!! Can you believe that? Price will be the same, and different is just the remodeling interior and exterior. Transmission, Engine, all remained the same. And no additional feature like xtra usb port behind the seat, the power door behind. However, there will be no rebate for 2017 mazda cx-5.

So, I'm in dilemma right now. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: Do not hammer me if there is something that you disagree. The above comment is really based on my test drive.  sweat.gif
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Why didn't you test the 2.5ltr version?
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post Mar 11 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 11 2017, 03:55 PM)
Cause after I tested 2.0ltr version, I found out that it is sufficient for my ride. In the car there is 4 persons including me, but I do not feel any issue moving the car.
The current discount is RM6k with additional another RM1k if confirmed today as there is an event ongoing today.
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Should've just tested 2.5 also so you know the comparison, no harm anyway.

 

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