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 Mazda CX-5 2.0 or Nissan X Trail 2.0 or Toyota RAV, Each has their own strength and weakness

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jayraptor
post Mar 15 2017, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Actchan @ Mar 11 2017, 12:01 PM)
Thailand spec cr-v already on tease and will launch end of this month .

Btw i dont think honda malaysia will fully ckd such as thailand high spec .

In fact cx-5 lead its segment sales on its entirement life in malaysia , i hope this cr-v can challenge it 🙄
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Looking at new Civic and City, think honda will give more to get number 1 spot. Matsuda on the other end, when they see CRV giving full package, Matsuda will give full too. Both will clash like titans while finishing off other weaker ones.
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post Mar 18 2017, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 11 2017, 01:46 PM)
I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought

Nissan X Trail -

Very pleasant drive. I do not feel like I'm driving SUV at all with such handling and feeling. It has almost the same feeling as driving my Almera. The 360 Degree camera is no joke. It is really good. It makes the parking even more pleasant. ( Especially for my wife ). My parents really like the spacious seat behind when they are sitting behind. Comes with Air con behind as well. There is barely noise from outside while driving in highway. The accelerator engine sound is almost same as Almera, but the gear changing is somehow.... very smooth.... like buttery smooth, unlike Almera.

Bad things is well.... The accessories is not much and not so "high tech" as Mazda CX-5. The handbrake is still using mechanical type instead of electronic type. The 2.0 version headlamp is not HUD light. For the airbag, I have no complaint even though it is just 2. Cause safety wise Nissan claimed they are concentrate on the Active which is the car body structure instead of passive ( like air bag ). But I will take his word as pinch of salt. Overall, good driving experience with old tech features.

Mazda CX-5

Pleasant drive as well, not as pleasant as X Trail, but at least I do not feel stress while driving it. This car has been proved to be much powerful than X Trail. I did try to release break on the slide to see its reaction. X Trail will remain its position, while CX-5.... will keep moving forward. The tech inside is very nice, electronic handbreak, ease of control in screen via the control button in the middle. The overall body is much much stable. Cornering is much much stable. The design wise. I think no other SUV can beat CX-5 Interior Design. Its just amazing.

Bad things is...... Engine noise. Well the noise is kinda significant during highway driving comparing with X Trail. Behind its not so spacious as X trail, I can see my parents legging left a little bit of space. Parking system is normal to me. Nothing fancy on that. Behind it. The item that will cover behind, there is no place for me to store it. It can only be put inside. X Trail has the space for place it beneth it.

Now headache is, Nissan is currently having the event. The discount rebate is provided a lot compare with Mazda. Wait and there is more, I was notified I can order the 2017 Mazda CX-5 !!! Can you believe that? Price will be the same, and different is just the remodeling interior and exterior. Transmission, Engine, all remained the same. And no additional feature like xtra usb port behind the seat, the power door behind. However, there will be no rebate for 2017 mazda cx-5.

So, I'm in dilemma right now. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: Do not hammer me if there is something that you disagree. The above comment is really based on my test drive.  sweat.gif
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alexyap25
post Mar 18 2017, 10:11 AM

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So in conclusion which one will u go for?
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post Mar 18 2017, 02:12 PM

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Cx-5 ...although good handling, suspension too stiff and not comfort as pessener or even driver. The FL version looks most luxury among all. Lowest fuel consumption.
X-trail ....2.5L is perfect but 2.0L not only sluggish but the cvt gearbox sound very loud and weird.
Subaru forester.. good handling, good power for 2L engine, less vibration, interior acceptable, nice AWD.suspension not as stiff as cx-5. But higher maintenance cost. Got huge discount for 2016 model.
Crv ..... 2.0 better thsn x trail in term of power but 2.4 dissapointed. Very comfort drive with soft suspension. Also mean more rolling when do cornering. Huge space and practical. Low maintenance.
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post Mar 18 2017, 05:56 PM

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I don't think you'll go wrong with any of the above

It's down to personal preference on the driving position, driving feel, it's looks and which brand you prefer more

How you feel sitting inside the driver seats holding the steering is most important. They say car is like a living machine and you can feel it if the car is right for you or not


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post Mar 19 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 11 2017, 01:46 PM)
I just test drive Mazda CX-5 2.0 GLS and Nissan X trail 2.0. Here is my thought

Nissan X Trail -

Very pleasant drive. I do not feel like I'm driving SUV at all with such handling and feeling. It has almost the same feeling as driving my Almera. The 360 Degree camera is no joke. It is really good. It makes the parking even more pleasant. ( Especially for my wife ). My parents really like the spacious seat behind when they are sitting behind. Comes with Air con behind as well. There is barely noise from outside while driving in highway. The accelerator engine sound is almost same as Almera, but the gear changing is somehow.... very smooth.... like buttery smooth, unlike Almera.

Bad things is well.... The accessories is not much and not so "high tech" as Mazda CX-5. The handbrake is still using mechanical type instead of electronic type. The 2.0 version headlamp is not HUD light. For the airbag, I have no complaint even though it is just 2. Cause safety wise Nissan claimed they are concentrate on the Active which is the car body structure instead of passive ( like air bag ). But I will take his word as pinch of salt. Overall, good driving experience with old tech features.

Mazda CX-5

Pleasant drive as well, not as pleasant as X Trail, but at least I do not feel stress while driving it. This car has been proved to be much powerful than X Trail. I did try to release break on the slide to see its reaction. X Trail will remain its position, while CX-5.... will keep moving forward. The tech inside is very nice, electronic handbreak, ease of control in screen via the control button in the middle. The overall body is much much stable. Cornering is much much stable. The design wise. I think no other SUV can beat CX-5 Interior Design. Its just amazing.

Bad things is...... Engine noise. Well the noise is kinda significant during highway driving comparing with X Trail. Behind its not so spacious as X trail, I can see my parents legging left a little bit of space. Parking system is normal to me. Nothing fancy on that. Behind it. The item that will cover behind, there is no place for me to store it. It can only be put inside. X Trail has the space for place it beneth it.

Now headache is, Nissan is currently having the event. The discount rebate is provided a lot compare with Mazda. Wait and there is more, I was notified I can order the 2017 Mazda CX-5 !!! Can you believe that? Price will be the same, and different is just the remodeling interior and exterior. Transmission, Engine, all remained the same. And no additional feature like xtra usb port behind the seat, the power door behind. However, there will be no rebate for 2017 mazda cx-5.

So, I'm in dilemma right now. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

P/S: Do not hammer me if there is something that you disagree. The above comment is really based on my test drive.  sweat.gif
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post Mar 19 2017, 07:58 PM

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Bro, did u ask TanChong what does the 7 years warranty covers?
Does it cover free labour, material and parts during this 7 years?
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QUOTE(alexyap25 @ Mar 19 2017, 07:58 PM)
Bro, did u ask TanChong what does the 7 years warranty covers?
Does it cover free labour, material and parts during this 7 years?
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Seems only engine gearbox , not wear and tear parts

You are mixing warranty with service , warranty is something breaks , service is normal parts must replace for proper operation

And 7 years warranty means 7 years servicing at tan chong with overfinalted pricing


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post Mar 21 2017, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(alexyap25 @ Mar 18 2017, 10:11 AM)
So in conclusion which one will u go for?
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I end up might be getting HRV instead haha. Even though I did mention Honda is out of my scope due to family reason, but seriously, getting a 1.8cc car only cost around RM102k is just a pure bargain!!

No matter how good is the car, or how good is the performance, it still lead to the last thing..... MONEY. Not because of no money getting CX-5 or Xtrail. Maybe its because I'm spending most of my time working and staying in Singapore, only weekend go back to JB. Most of the time the car will be driven by my parents. And they rarely drive to highway, mostly are just city run. So getting RM130k car is not really worth it for me. It is best save it for getting house in Singapore. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Like I mentioned before, I change car is because of getting rid of my Proton Saga FL before it has problem. So I guess any car upgrade other than Proton is really work for me.

This weekend will be going down to Honda Showroom. Most likely I will confirm the purchase this weekend. Heck, its still a SUV, but compact version with CVT gearbox.


QUOTE(alexyap25 @ Mar 19 2017, 07:58 PM)
Bro, did u ask TanChong what does the 7 years warranty covers?
Does it cover free labour, material and parts during this 7 years?
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Not really asking into too deep regarding the content of the 7 years warranty covers. But do not expect anything spoil can be changed easily, definitely there is something that it will not be covered due to wear and tear, for example leathers. Its more on the engine, or maybe performance on the vehicle itself.

This post has been edited by Jet23sky: Mar 21 2017, 01:28 PM
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post Mar 21 2017, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 21 2017, 01:25 PM)
I end up might be getting HRV instead haha. Even though I did mention Honda is out of my scope due to family reason, but seriously, getting a 1.8cc car only cost around RM102k is just a pure bargain!!

No matter how good is the car, or how good is the performance, it still lead to the last thing..... MONEY. Not because of no money getting CX-5 or Xtrail. Maybe its because I'm spending most of my time working and staying in Singapore, only weekend go back to JB. Most of the time the car will be driven by my parents. And they rarely drive to highway, mostly are just city run. So getting RM130k car is not really worth it for me. It is best save it for getting house in Singapore.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Like I mentioned before, I change car is because of getting rid of my Proton Saga FL before it has problem. So I guess any car upgrade other than Proton is really work for me.

This weekend will be going down to Honda Showroom. Most likely I will confirm the purchase this weekend. Heck, its still a SUV, but compact version with CVT gearbox.
Not really asking into too deep regarding the content of the 7 years warranty covers. But do not expect anything spoil can be changed easily, definitely there is something that it will not be covered due to wear and tear, for example leathers. Its more on the engine, or maybe performance on the vehicle itself.
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.... And the final result is.. (drumroll).... Honda HRV!!

Your post shows why many going for HRV. Have you checked the rest of the SUVs and tell me the discount?
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 21 2017, 11:48 PM)
.... And the final result is.. (drumroll).... Honda HRV!!

Your post shows why many going for HRV. Have you checked the rest of the SUVs and tell me the discount?
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Actually hr-v is wise choice too , with no direct rival on its 1.8 b-segment suv , another hot selling model by honda .

Cx-3 cant get good sales in malaysia with its 2.0 + stylish combo . Because ? The 130k price tag ...

Ts , why not consider subaru xv ? Its bargain too 🙄


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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 21 2017, 01:25 PM)
I end up might be getting HRV instead haha. Even though I did mention Honda is out of my scope due to family reason, but seriously, getting a 1.8cc car only cost around RM102k is just a pure bargain!!

No matter how good is the car, or how good is the performance, it still lead to the last thing..... MONEY. Not because of no money getting CX-5 or Xtrail. Maybe its because I'm spending most of my time working and staying in Singapore, only weekend go back to JB. Most of the time the car will be driven by my parents. And they rarely drive to highway, mostly are just city run. So getting RM130k car is not really worth it for me. It is best save it for getting house in Singapore.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Like I mentioned before, I change car is because of getting rid of my Proton Saga FL before it has problem. So I guess any car upgrade other than Proton is really work for me.

This weekend will be going down to Honda Showroom. Most likely I will confirm the purchase this weekend. Heck, its still a SUV, but compact version with CVT gearbox.
Not really asking into too deep regarding the content of the 7 years warranty covers. But do not expect anything spoil can be changed easily, definitely there is something that it will not be covered due to wear and tear, for example leathers. Its more on the engine, or maybe performance on the vehicle itself.
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Work in Singapore? I thought in Singapore Subaru is quite popular. Now that Subaru is assembled by Tan Chong, the parts are no more scarce. Unless you are looking for 7 seater, the Forester 2.0 premium is more high tech than even 2.5 CX5 I believe and also has 7 airbags smile.gif
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QUOTE(Actchan @ Mar 22 2017, 12:59 AM)
Actually hr-v is wise choice too , with no direct rival on its 1.8 b-segment suv , another hot selling model by honda .

Cx-3 cant get good sales in malaysia with its 2.0 + stylish combo . Because ? The 130k price tag ...

Ts , why not consider subaru xv ?  Its bargain too 🙄
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CX3 is so expensive that top up a bit can get C segment SUV. Surprisingly, the cx3 could sell at healthy volume & doesn't cannibalise cx5 sales. If cx3 priced at rm110k, it might beat HRV
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QUOTE(Progineer @ Mar 22 2017, 07:41 AM)
Wait for cx5. Build quality is top notch.
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Tell me that when you see cx-5 leather wrap start peeling after 1-2 years.
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post Mar 23 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 21 2017, 11:48 PM)
.... And the final result is.. (drumroll).... Honda HRV!!

Your post shows why many going for HRV. Have you checked the rest of the SUVs and tell me the discount?
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So far only nissan and mazda. Honda will be this weekend.

QUOTE(Actchan @ Mar 22 2017, 12:59 AM)
Actually hr-v is wise choice too , with no direct rival on its 1.8 b-segment suv , another hot selling model by honda .

Cx-3 cant get good sales in malaysia with its 2.0 + stylish combo . Because ? The 130k price tag ...

Ts , why not consider subaru xv ?  Its bargain too 🙄
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Subaru resale value is really really bad.... though the price does look attractive with good rebate

QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 22 2017, 07:52 AM)
Work in Singapore? I thought in Singapore Subaru is quite popular. Now that Subaru is assembled by Tan Chong, the parts are no more scarce. Unless you are looking for 7 seater, the Forester 2.0 premium is more high tech than even 2.5 CX5 I believe and also has 7 airbags  smile.gif
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Only in singapore. Cant really buy a car in sg now cause the coe paper will cost your sgd80k. Lol. Like i mentiond above. Resale value for subaru is really bad

QUOTE(jayraptor @ Mar 22 2017, 07:23 PM)
CX3 is so expensive that top up a bit can get C segment SUV. Surprisingly, the cx3 could sell at healthy volume & doesn't cannibalise cx5 sales. If cx3 priced at rm110k, it might beat HRV
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But cx3 the cargo space is really really bad. Good for driving with couple. But not good for family.

QUOTE(bi80 @ Mar 23 2017, 07:33 AM)
Hi, just wondering where can you get new Nissan Xtrail  for 115K? I'm doing survey on my next car now smile.gif
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Jb plentong u can go there have a look

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Mar 8 2017, 11:36 AM)
CR-V will launch soon. Turbo. spacious & good FC. Plz wait a while..
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Again with CVT, sux....
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 23 2017, 08:30 AM)
So far only nissan and mazda. Honda will be this weekend.
Subaru resale value is really really bad.... though the price does look attractive with good rebate
Only in singapore. Cant really buy a car in sg now cause the coe paper will cost your sgd80k. Lol. Like i mentiond above. Resale value for subaru is really bad
But cx3 the cargo space is really really bad. Good for driving with couple. But not good for family.
Jb plentong u can go there have a look
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If you're free, can you go try few models too? Then share the offer and discount of few brands and models here.

You're right about CX3, those who bought mostly single or couple. It's tight and cramped yet people go for it. Really good marketing there. HRV is of course more spacious and family oriented
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Hi, I already ordered HR-V V model this morning. I think this will be a good bargain of having SUV car with around 120k price point. Now I need to prepare to get video car camera, blind spot mirror and other accessories for my new car arrived. According to the dealer, the car will only be arrive within 2 months. That's quite long I would say. But for me should be fine as I can still drive Nissan Almera during that period of time. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 8 2017, 11:22 AM)
Hi Guys, I'm having headache deciding my next SUV. Currently I have narrowed it down to these 3/ What I understand is

Nissan X trail, spacious compare the other 2.
Just release new version on 2016
clip gear mechanism. ( for overtaking purpose )
Reduce noise at high speed
7 seaters
Good Parking System

Mazda CX-5
Better FC compare with the other 2
Have better engine performace ( Speed )

Guys any advice on this as this Saturday I will be going down to these showroom for test drive
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Do ever consider Isuzu MU-X ?
Is diesel turbo 2.5 engine ... is a good car ...

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QUOTE(jlkh760830 @ Mar 25 2017, 05:54 PM)
Do ever consider Isuzu MU-X ?
Is diesel turbo 2.5 engine ... is a good car ...

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My father will need to think on the resale value as well as spare parts availability in future. Isuzu might not good for future maintenance / resale.

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