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TSBoon3
post Jan 3 2019, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 20 2018, 09:25 AM)
Two simple examples on bottom searching... tongue.gif

Yinson

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... and again taking into consideration the bigger picture .....

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it's simple...
you don't need to know all sort of trading to make money...
you don't need to be a day trader if you cannot be one...
it's not a crime... tongue.gif

a trader do not have to trade all the time...
when there is no trade, do not feel obligated to make one...

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Review work..

Yinson..

The stock is still hanging on..

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The TTM eps is about 21+ which means at current price of 4.17, its trading on an earnings multiples of 18+.

Not extremely excessive but here's where the trouble lies.
If one just looks at the trailing numbers without taking into consideration of the quarterly earnings trend, then once could be in for a nasty surprise if the poor earnings trend continue...

And Yinson current quarterly earnings trend is ugly.

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So the question is WHAT if Yinson quarterly earnings continues so lousy then how?
Won't the current price be then a bit excessive?



Is it worth taking the risk applying the bottom fishing strategy and making a bet on this stock, right now at these current prices?

*Surprising fact is that Yinson did not tank after the release of its poor earnings in December!*

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post Jan 3 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2018, 09:29 AM)

QUOTE(wenqing @ Nov 21 2018, 07:37 PM)
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BTW... here's something you can do...

Take a quick screen of the actives...
Look at its movers ... (ideally fairly new mover or its 'news' should not be more than 2 months (u want to avoid stale fish) )

for example, today, you might spot Tatt Giap
Active... nice momentum... in the green...
now if you do not want to chase Tatt Giap...
you might want to see if it can belong to a family...

for me, I might see the 'new shareholder' angle as perhaps a sector...
So I would view it as a not so good stock... (from a fundamental pov... not making money)...
but then the new shareholder could be a game changer....

so next...
find for any such angle in other stocks...
ie..perhaps a bad stock... which has had a RTO... giving the stock a new perspective...
check the balance sheets...
see how 'clean' the company could be after the RTO...
etc etc...

there's always 'ideas' in the market...
most important is could these idea be a fit for your style of game?


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Hmm.... now this IS a big winner....

It underwent a rights issue and then it surged all the way up!


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post Jan 4 2019, 09:00 AM

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How reliable is 'good dividends' ?

Let's use Astro as an example.

As most would know, Astro did pay a generous set of regular dividends but could one consider this as a 'reliable' safety net' in our trading/investment?

Let's run a test on dividends since 2018. Yes, assuming 2018 was the start of the trade (big, silly assumption of course!).

Here's the chart of Astro.

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Not very good eh? Astro on 2nd Jan 2018, closed at 2.45. Those that held Astro since 2018 is left holding massive losses.

Now here's the dividend payout. Let's sibuk and see how much the dividends helped. (The bells on the chart indicates the dividend payouts)

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So total dividends received since Jan 2018, would be 11 sen.

Astro closed at 1.33 yesterday.

How?

Despite the generous dividend payout, one holding on to Astro is deep buried in losses.

Would this be yet another example on why dividends is not a 100% safe. You can collect all the goodie dividends but the slide in the share price would negate all the rewards and in Astro case, the losses is massive!!




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post Jan 4 2019, 10:14 AM

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thanks boon for the insightful analysis. always appreciate your teachings
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post Jan 4 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Jan 4 2019, 10:14 AM)
thanks boon for the insightful analysis. always appreciate your teachings
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Just sharing as usual.
Don't get me wrong, dividends are good but it must be backed by strong earnings. As you can see also in Astro's example, as earnings slump, Astro has reduced its dividends too.


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post Jan 4 2019, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(razorknight @ Jan 4 2019, 04:50 PM)
Anyone here got watsapp group on stock trading? can PM me and let me join?

Watsapp group discussed things faster....
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WhatsApp groups doesn't make you any better trader or investor.


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post Jan 4 2019, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(razorknight @ Jan 4 2019, 05:15 PM)
Bro, nothing will ever make u a better trader..... but with an watsapp messenger, makes faster response to market movement....

Trading market is not that simple and with more info the better it is....
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If you insist. Hope you find whatever you are seeking.

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post Jan 4 2019, 10:31 PM

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hahahaha, i think he looking for tips
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post Jan 5 2019, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Jan 4 2019, 10:31 PM)
hahahaha, i think he looking for tips
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Oh!

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post Jan 6 2019, 12:06 AM

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Easy way
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post Jan 6 2019, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Jan 6 2019, 12:06 AM)
Easy way
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Yeah, he wants tips and he wants it fastest!

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post Jan 6 2019, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(razorknight @ Jan 4 2019, 05:15 PM)
Bro, nothing will ever make u a better trader..... but with an watsapp messenger, makes faster response to market movement....

Trading market is not that simple and with more info the better it is....
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i dont really get you. whatsapp might be faster but for what and from what?
trading can be simpler imho le. loads of info out there as we call it Bid Data but for what????
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post Jan 7 2019, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 6 2019, 06:02 PM)
Yeah, he wants tips and he wants it fastest!

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Please give some quick tips to become better trader in year 2019 whistling.gif
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post Jan 7 2019, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jan 7 2019, 08:14 AM)
Please give some quick tips to become better trader in year 2019  whistling.gif
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hahahahaha..... cunningly devlish evil... laugh.gif


looking at penny stocks that are relatively clean, no debts.... and doesn't have declining profits...

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post Jan 10 2019, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 18 2018, 12:02 PM)
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Look the strategy has got to fit you. You attack the market with your best game plan, one that's best suited as per your ability.

You cannot just follow others.

Let's look at your strategy. You got to ask what could go wrong and why this strategy will bring you the moolah.

Without a stock name is hard to discuss more as in most cases each stock is different.
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I have been following company results and have shortlisted some companies that are doing quite well. But this is looking at the rearview mirror. I haven't got much time to look at the future prospects and I think it's really difficult to predict the future.

Anyway, these are the lists of companies that I think are fundamentally good and doing quite well recently. Price wise, it has has either not gone down too much or have been recovering from lows.

FPI
QES
PENTA
MUDA
VIS
DANCO
MBMR
BIMB
RCECAP
AEONCR
DUFU
BPPLAS
CHINWELL
UMW
POHUAT

Any thoughts?

Edit:

Add in:

FAVCO
CARIMIN
FLBHD

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post Jan 18 2019, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Jan 10 2019, 10:34 AM)
I have been following company results and have shortlisted some companies that are doing quite well. But this is looking at the rearview mirror. I haven't got much time to look at the future prospects and I think it's really difficult to predict the future.

Anyway, these are the lists of companies that I think are fundamentally good and doing quite well recently. Price wise, it has has either not gone down too much or have been recovering from lows.

FPI
QES
PENTA
MUDA
VIS
DANCO
MBMR
BIMB
RCECAP
AEONCR
DUFU
BPPLAS
CHINWELL
UMW
POHUAT

Any thoughts?

Edit:

Add in:

FAVCO
CARIMIN
FLBHD
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Long veggie list. tongue.gif


Were you seriously expecting me to answer? tongue.gif


If you had one and only one shot, which one then?


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post Jan 21 2019, 02:38 PM

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Bumi armada anyone? Breakout with very high volume.
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post Jan 21 2019, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jan 21 2019, 02:38 PM)
Bumi armada anyone? Breakout with very high volume.
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post Jan 22 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jan 21 2019, 02:38 PM)
Bumi armada anyone? Breakout with very high volume.
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Well, if you are trading based on momentum, why not? Worth a bet, yes?

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However, I do not like this stock... tongue.gif
Haha... rather conflicting, ya....
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post Jan 22 2019, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 22 2019, 08:59 AM)
Well, if you are trading based on momentum, why not? Worth a bet, yes?

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However, I do not like this stock... tongue.gif
Haha... rather conflicting, ya....
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That accumulation period was quite obvious

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