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Kar Weng
post Mar 12 2018, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(zenoboy111 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:44 PM)
I got some questions, lets say I have some stock and the price is at RM0.10, but I know it will go up to RM0.11 within this month or next month.

Q1. Assuming there's no buyers for now, if I already start selling at RM0.11 I get an early selling queue for that price right?

Q2. Do I still get charged at the end of each day even if I sold 0 lots?

Thanks.

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Is there anyone who does day trading here? If so, what software or broker are you using?
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Would love to know the answer for Q1 also! Has been bugging me for a long time. Let's say if the whole day no one buys at RM0.11, then the sell order (assuming it's a GTD order instead of a DAY order) will become a New-AMO (after market order) again. So I wonder, in the next day do we get priority in the queue compared to others who made the order later than us, if the buyers are limited?

For Q2, no you don't get charged unless the order get executed.

I play short & mid term trading on Rakuten Trade Online. Planning to go for long term once I have a greater capital. Do keep in touch cause I'm still quite new and alone in this!
Alex9182
post Mar 12 2018, 11:30 PM

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i am interested in US stock day trading, any one also same?
zenoboy111
post Mar 13 2018, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Alex9182 @ Mar 12 2018, 11:30 PM)
i am interested in US stock day trading, any one also same?
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I'm also interested in US stock day trading, but currently just started out.
Want to see how well I can trade first.

There are some broker that provide really good platform that can watch real time price going up or down,
you can place order price and then instant cancel when got buyer then edit the order price again and then sell in realtime.
I feel its very smooth & easy to place your order if doing day trading like that.

Only problem is that broker min deposit of $30,000 rclxub.gif

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post Mar 13 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(zenoboy111 @ Mar 13 2018, 10:01 AM)
I'm also interested in US stock day trading, but currently just started out.
Want to see how well I can trade first.

There are some broker that provide really good platform that can watch real time price going up or down,
you can place order price and then instant cancel when got buyer then edit the order price again and then sell in realtime.
I feel its very smooth & easy to place your order if doing day trading like that.

Only problem is that broker min deposit of $30,000  rclxub.gif
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Which broker is that, what is the commission for trading Stock and CFD?


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post Mar 13 2018, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Alex9182 @ Mar 13 2018, 11:04 AM)
Which broker is that, what is the commission for trading Stock and CFD?
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Example from this guy trading, I believe he using this to do this trades.
Not sure about the deposit needed for his platform.

There others as well, you might want to look out for them.

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post Mar 13 2018, 12:04 PM

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Traders LOOK at YKGI and IRETEX just whack follow the volume.

Hybrid trade look at these 2 and hesitated and took no action. (I am this catergory)

Investors will curst those who buy into these..

But both stocks kept running.

Meanwhile look at good fundamental stock like FINTEC with earning growth, PE<1 price like dirt.

sometimes its a torn whether to be investor or trader.
TSBoon3
post Mar 15 2018, 12:06 PM

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Never ever rush to be a trader.

The good doctor studies for years before he/she makes their first RM.

Same with lawyers.

Same with engineers.

So you think a stock trader can just trade just like that and treat all losses as educational fees?

Learn well, practise well before you trade.


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post Mar 15 2018, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 15 2018, 12:06 PM)
Never ever rush to be a trader.

The good doctor studies for years before he/she makes their first RM.

Same with lawyers.

Same with engineers.

So you think a stock trader can just trade just like that and treat all losses as educational fees?

Learn well, practise well before you trade.
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True. But I think the best is to start small and do real trading as its completely different than paper trading especially the emotions part and always trade with a strategy
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post Mar 15 2018, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Mar 15 2018, 01:34 PM)
True. But I think the best is to start small and do real trading as its completely different than paper trading especially the emotions part and always trade with a strategy
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The emotions part is way over rated.

Protection of capital and understanding of risks is far greater importance. Many lose money in a blink of an eye no thanks to advice given that they need to trade for real with real money to learn. That's like bringing lambs to slaughter.

Yes, strategy is very important. But how can one know what is best strategy that best fit them without the thousands hours of practice and self discovery?
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post Mar 15 2018, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Mar 15 2018, 01:34 PM)
True. But I think the best is to start small and do real trading as its completely different than paper trading especially the emotions part and always trade with a strategy
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So say one practice for years b4 they traded with real money and once they do, they lose due to emotions of not able to excite the trades correctly or as planned. They fail.

However, from their years of practice they know that it is paramount they learn from their mistakes. Right? if the setup is wrong, they need to figure out why.

But if it was their emotions that failed them then right off, they should understand the bare facts that perhaps trading is not for them.

Now... compared the other option....


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post Mar 15 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 15 2018, 01:45 PM)
The emotions part is way over rated.

Protection of capital and understanding of risks is far greater importance. Many lose money in a blink of an eye no thanks to advice given that they need to trade for real with real money to learn. That's like bringing lambs to slaughter.

Yes, strategy is very important. But how can one know what is best strategy that best fit them without the thousands hours of practice and self discovery?
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Hmm..for me when I started trading, my emotions got the better of me and I lost big and then I sat down and reflect the mistakes I made.

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post Mar 15 2018, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 15 2018, 02:05 PM)
So say one practice for years b4 they traded with real money and once they do, they lose due to emotions of not able to excite the trades correctly or as planned. They fail.

However, from their years of practice they know that it is paramount they learn from their mistakes. Right? if the setup is wrong, they need to figure out why.

But if it was their emotions that failed them then right off, they should understand the bare facts that perhaps trading is not for them.

Now... compared the other option....
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I did a few months of paper trading at first, I thought I was ready but when I enter the field, its completely different
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post Mar 15 2018, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(GSCboy @ Mar 15 2018, 02:29 PM)
I did a few months of paper trading at first, I thought I was ready but when I enter the field, its completely different
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.... you thought you were ready....




just curious....
from few months....
how could you determine your best strategy?
Your best setup? Your trade size?


ps the other alternative....
you trade with real money....
Your emotion will still get the better of you right?
that's one loss there, yes?
Then... to discover your best trading strategy....
lose while you learn?
see where I am heading... ?
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post Mar 16 2018, 11:44 AM

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Find your niche as a trader ...
Find out what you're good at ...

As some pros would say "Good traders are not jacks of all trades, they specialize..."


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post Mar 21 2018, 09:15 AM

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Superlon, share price rocket when QR is excel.

when growth stop, share price tumbles.


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post Mar 21 2018, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 21 2018, 09:15 AM)
Superlon, share price rocket when QR is excel.

when growth stop, share price tumbles.
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... that's the exact danger when playing growth stocks.
The very first indicator that the stellar projected growth will end (research houses not helping since their projected numbers are based on insane CAGR growth, sometimes more than 20%.. lol... Do they ever hear what they are trying to say with those numbers? tongue.gif ) these growth stocks will die katak.

Superlon has now recorded 3 quarters of 'dismal' earnings. Normalised it and we are looking at eps below ten......

... yet ... some will buy cos they based it on the fact it used to be a hero stock and somehow, just like that, they expect it to retest past highs.....
TSBoon3
post Mar 21 2018, 04:03 PM

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Trading turnaround stocks....

It's never really safe to be early in such theme based trading. ie the morning cooko bird might not catch the worm. tongue.gif

You assume that the said company earnings would turnaround....
if does, you could win big....
but if it doesn't ..... remember the other side of the coin do exist!!
..... which means you could also lose big too!


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post Mar 21 2018, 04:06 PM

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“Play the market only when all factors are in your favor. No person can play the market all the time and win. There are times when you should be completely out of the market, for emotional as well as economic reasons.”


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post Mar 21 2018, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 21 2018, 04:06 PM)
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banyak inspiration meh
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post Mar 21 2018, 09:42 PM

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Wow, Bone gor famous liao... for the wrong reason though. Many ppl blog in i3 too. Filter everyone?


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