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SUSlowya
post Mar 15 2017, 12:37 PM

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Congrats to all Jaks buyer, defying all TA principals. lol..

PS: pls PM me the sharks group, hehe..

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post Mar 15 2017, 03:40 PM

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Something is brewing at Talamt...
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post Mar 19 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 16 2017, 07:17 PM)
Real trade or paper trade..  tongue.gif

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Paper trade in Bull market > total boost self confidence

Paper trade in Bear market > give up trading.

Paper trade in Bull market, and get into Real trade in correction > OMG.

Paper trade in Bull market, and get into Real trade in Bear Market > OMFG!


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post Mar 20 2017, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2017, 09:27 AM)
Paper trade in Bull market, and get into Real trade in correction > OMG.
==>> What does this actually say?
Answer? One wasn't ready.
If one paper traded correctly, one would know the market conditions before they traded.

Paper trade in Bull market, and get into Real trade in Bear Market > OMFG!
==>> Let me copy and paste my answer again.
What does this actually say?
Answer? One wasn't ready.
If one paper traded correctly, one would know the market conditions before they traded.
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in a bear KLSE market all longs get slaughtered, and you won't dare to short either (as paper trade never prepare you to short it), shorting stocks is a complete different ball game. that's what it means.

when a trend change, even a small corrections, breakout/contra/short term traders accounts are flushed out. No matter how ready are you, you depend on bull market, while avoiding corrections.

this is not even a doubtful on your part, in the first place it was replied to gark.

It's good that everyone has different views, that's makes the market interesting, all groups (bulls bears sheeps pigs) are needed for the market to work it's tricks.
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post Mar 20 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2017, 10:24 AM)
One who has prepared and paper traded for many years?
Or a beginner?
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its not how much you learn in school.

it's how much you know how to apply it even if school never taught you.
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2017, 10:50 AM)
...using your argument....

this begs the question, how to know what and how to apply, if you don't even go to school?
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if you have to ask this question that means...

anyway, here you go:

parents, siblings, mentors, personal coach, internet/youtube/google, books, Cd, TV, radio, seminars, blogs, employers, colleague, social events, conference, roadshow, clients, and forum here, etc......

school IS over-rated.

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post Mar 21 2017, 10:51 AM

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while you guys debate on paper trading, the grown ups are making real money in stock market.

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post Mar 21 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Mar 21 2017, 11:44 AM)
That's funny lowya, given that this current discussion was pretty much started off by your post #246...
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yea funny how the debate started like page 1?
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post Mar 30 2017, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 29 2017, 11:33 PM)
I found another possible cup n handle trend .... Today went up with volume.

It is an old super boring counter. Kfima.

What does TA says.. wink.gif
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you are doing well with fundamental, why you want to mess it up with TA that everyone interpreted differently based on what they feel right/wrong?

the good fundamental stock rarely offers opportunity for technical entry.

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post Mar 30 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2017, 10:42 AM)
Still learning mah... If FA already know, now learn TA lo..

I read somewhere... choose the stock based on FA, entry and exit based on TA.. you get the best of two worlds. rclxms.gif

I dont want to choose any chapalang stock merely for the TA to trade shorterm...  tongue.gif
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then again, why sell on TA and miss the rest of the rides if you based on fundamental of entry?

as mentioned earlier, fundamentally good stocks will not offer much opportunity for trader to time the entry well, and most likely after they sold they will regret selling.

you will have conflict of both school of thoughts when it comes to both entry and exit, especially exit, where fundamentalist sell stocks when it's fully valued, buy when it undervalue.

Meanwhile, for day traders any lousy stocks with good volume can contra, or those with low volume can goreng.

Stick to what work best for ya. If it aint spoil dont fix it.

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post Mar 30 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 30 2017, 11:04 AM)
And lets say if we are holding another fundamental stock, and the valuations are getting rich (ie expensive) and we want to sell, do we sell at any price? Or do we wait until the price over runs the fair price to sell? And when do we pull the trigger?
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when fundamentalist enter stock, they have their pricing model of fair value, based on eps growth or any other model. Their exist should be anytime price above fair value. every QR will revalue the fair price and when company not perform well, the slowed growth or reduced value will trigger the selling. Or perhaps portfolio re-shuttling to swap low potential to high potential stocks.

ok keep talking about fundamental in traders corner will invite someone to suggest a thread name change later, lol.
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post Mar 30 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 30 2017, 01:11 PM)
GAQRS chart. Let me learn something, Boon.

How would you trade this.
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MY fundamental TP: 1.55

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post Mar 31 2017, 11:53 AM

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any guru wants to discuss this chart?

the last candle captured ard 12pm, not close for the day yet.

is it a buy or sell signal based on TA?

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post Apr 3 2017, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Apr 1 2017, 12:19 AM)
Hope to get some thought on this too. High profile deal, but price down 9% upon closing.
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if you don't see any chartist come out to comment, it means they cannot predict what is the next move based on chart alone.

But someday later, surely there are a lot of gurus come out to explain this and that after the chart painted.

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post Jun 19 2017, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jun 19 2017, 04:52 PM)
market is so damn red today. haha
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a topping formation in some sector indices is brewing, however it could be only consolidation, this week closing is crucial.
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post Jun 30 2017, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(lihongmint @ Jun 30 2017, 11:06 AM)
anyone of you currently is or use to be a proprietary trader for a broker firm?

How you guys select stocks compare with people outside as every month, you are paid with a % how much money you earn from the market for the broker firm
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local brokers earns commission hence they encourage client to trade more, you make money or not, not their problem.

fund manager for institutions get a percentage from profit generated.
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post Jun 30 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(lihongmint @ Jun 30 2017, 02:24 PM)
looks like you don't know what is proprietary trader is. dry.gif

Heard of proprietary day trader in CIMB investment or Malacca securities?

Trade for company and not for client nor manage a fund
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i am not a fan of labels, but if the title proprietary trader is what makes a retail trader feels some entitlement or status in exchange of cheaper brokerage fee, by all means, in the end you are retail trader if you trade your own money.
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QUOTE(lihongmint @ Jun 30 2017, 02:48 PM)
I interested of their trading strategy not brokerage fee...
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look like you don't understand the word proprietary.
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post Aug 24 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 24 2017, 08:51 AM)
Prestar..  brows.gif

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Only problem:

Debt/Cash = 4.2
Current ratio = 1.45
Profit margin not impressive.


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post Sep 13 2017, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 13 2017, 09:47 AM)
Maintain OUTPERFORM with a lower TP of RM2.70, from RM2.90 previously.
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So I guess the new meaning of "Outperform" by Kenanga's ANALyst is referring to stocks like Pwroot with lowest quarter profit in the past 3 years.

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