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gark
post Aug 22 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Aug 22 2017, 10:15 AM)
What about PPHB ah @Gark?
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This one also same story and trend... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

This one also lengchai.. innocent.gif

Good spotting.

Which one better Ah Boon? brows.gif

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TSBoon3
post Aug 22 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 22 2017, 10:33 AM)
This one also same story and trend...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

This one also lengchai..  innocent.gif

Good spotting.

Which one better Ah Boon?  brows.gif
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Thanks for comments on Orna.

Pphb.... looks ok but if you ask me...Orna looks like a better horse. tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 22 2017, 10:46 AM)
Thanks for comments on Orna. 

Pphb.... looks ok but if you ask me...Orna looks like a better horse. tongue.gif
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Found a even better related horse .. brows.gif Quickly loaded up some shares at market price.

Up 300% for this year and still only at PE 3+.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif Still can go another 300% to hit PE 10.. drool.gif

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post Aug 22 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 22 2017, 11:38 AM)
Found a even better related horse ..  brows.gif  Quickly loaded up some shares at market price.

Up 300% for this year and still only at PE 3+..  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif Still can go another 300% to hit PE 10..  drool.gif
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Looks good.
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post Aug 22 2017, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 22 2017, 10:07 AM)
Paper price is going up, so you have contango, raw materials bought cheaper earlier, now can sell for higher price

High demand for box due to more online selling.. rclxms.gif

Paper and box shortage in China, due to above.. blame alibaba ... rolleyes.gif

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How long this rally will last, no one knows, but china paper producers is already ramping up production

Orna buys paper as a raw material and is 60% of cost, so if the paper price downtrend, they can be caught in reverse situation.

Jump from RM 1 to RM 1.4X is scary..  sweat.gif

Cousins are Muda and boxpak (But Orna have better fundamentals)

paper industry is sleepy.. no analyst..  brows.gif

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Such jumps ( to be more price.. it jumped from 1.20+ to 1.40 la) are actually normal considering the massive improvement in numbers all around, hence I doubt the gap will be closed for the time being.

And.....if and if it does closed or attempts to close the gap... then it's really not worth (and if fact, it's usually a 'trap to buy at those levels) fishing for the stock.

The preferred entry would be catch the stock if and when it consolidates (higher) ....

My 3 Sen

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post Aug 22 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 16 2017, 05:41 PM)
This always 'sound' logical but ... I am telling you this ain't so.

Diversifying will never make it safer. When shit happens, like a crash, they will all die... well ... some of the better ones... they just die less or recover faster.

And then ... when carries more different stocks... the tendency is that sooner and not later, they will most likely to carry the big G - the goreng stocks... and because of the noob factor...the cutting loss is an art they could never master... and in most failure cases....all it takes is ONE NASTY BAD GORENG STOCK that goes badly wrong . And when this happens....tbe portfolio will turn in huge mega losses.

And I will say this.... it's never how many stocks you carry... most important is you carry the right one.

And when you carry less different stocks...you force yourself to be damn bloody correct....this is something which I have seen many with multi stocks in their portfolio will fail to do. Most of the time...they carry more just cos of the theory... they carry stocks to fullfil their die hard gambling blood.. they carry more cos they think one bad stock selection is ok. Cos they think the other stocks can take care of one or two lousy picks...

And so on and so on.....

Ps this issue is subjective. It's always ok for you to disagree.

All you need to do is send Gark to kowtim me.

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Yup.. I understand what you are trying to tell me.. I am still not disciplined enough to cut loss although I know that is the right thing to do.. icon_question.gif So, until I manage to master cutting losses and improve on stock picks (avoid goreng stocks), I think it is better for me to avoid keeping a concentrated stock to avoid a big draw down in the event that I'm losing on a trade and can't seem to cut loss early..


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post Aug 22 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Aug 22 2017, 02:05 PM)
Yup.. I understand what you are trying to tell me.. I am still not disciplined enough to cut loss although I know that is the right thing to do.. icon_question.gif So, until I manage to master cutting losses and improve on stock picks (avoid goreng stocks), I think it is better for me to avoid keeping a concentrated stock to avoid a big draw down in the event that I'm losing on a trade and can't seem to cut loss early..
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Some stocks... with ... err... fundamentals... when its earnings collapse .... could also see mega mega drop in stock prices. Example? Oil stocks few years back.


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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 22 2017, 02:32 PM)
Some stocks... with ... err... fundamentals... when its earnings collapse .... could also see mega mega drop in stock prices. Example? Oil stocks few years back.
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Oh yes.. That is a good reminder and example to learn from.. notworthy.gif


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post Aug 22 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Aug 22 2017, 04:22 PM)
Oh yes.. That is a good reminder and example to learn from..  notworthy.gif
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The ability to ADMIT one is wrong and the ability to rectify the mistake ( and not holding and praying the market will auto correct one one's mistake) is always crucial.


How many times you hear the one reason one is holding to Xxx stock is because the stock price is below their cost price?



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post Aug 22 2017, 06:42 PM

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....export stocks..... not looking like a sure win play.....

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post Aug 22 2017, 07:29 PM

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tomypak different than muda/boxpak?
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post Aug 23 2017, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 22 2017, 06:42 PM)
....export stocks..... not looking like a sure win play.....

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Why you say that? tongue.gif

i got some export stocks.. hmm.gif
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post Aug 23 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Aug 22 2017, 07:29 PM)
tomypak different than muda/boxpak?
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Tomypak is plastic packaging... Boxpack/muda etc is paper packaging..

When you order from lazada.. it comes in paper packaging right.. tongue.gif

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post Aug 23 2017, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 23 2017, 08:32 AM)
Why you say that?  tongue.gif

i got some export stocks..  hmm.gif
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Cos it's not totally reliable to rely on the USD factor as previously.... today no same as yesterday....

1. Run thru some export stocks. The oomph factor not as solid as before. Example? FLB gave some shitty numbers, no? (was it poor export? where the USD oomph?)

2. Yes, there will be winners (tech sector) but picking these winners is not the same as b4.

3. Growth caused by the USD factor tak cukup. Product itself must be growing...

4. Exporters to US is not necessary a safe bet as b4. Classic example? Classic Scenic (not to say that it was good b4. tongue.gif) .... look at yesterday numbers... where the oomph? Lucky got that divi announcement... )

5. The recent BNM impact on exporters?? How big is the impact?? ( see http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government...ort-fx-proceeds )

anymore?

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post Aug 23 2017, 09:17 AM

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FLB huge volume breakout of 1.78 previously turned out to trap traders.... zzzz

Edit: I think it got to do with some error on share buy back from director and the next day amended announcement was sold instead of bought.

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post Aug 23 2017, 07:03 PM

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boon3 boon, do you use Moving Average in your trade? tongue.gif
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post Aug 23 2017, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Aug 23 2017, 07:03 PM)
boon3 boon, do you use Moving Average in your trade?  tongue.gif
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Nope. Very unreliable. tongue.gif
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post Aug 24 2017, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 23 2017, 09:08 AM)
Cos it's not totally reliable to rely on the USD factor as previously.... today no same as yesterday....

1. Run thru some export stocks. The oomph factor not as solid as before. Example? FLB gave some shitty numbers, no? (was it poor export? where the USD oomph?)

2. Yes, there will be winners (tech sector) but picking these winners is not the same as b4.

3. Growth caused by the USD factor tak cukup. Product itself must be growing...

4. Exporters to US is not necessary a safe bet as b4. Classic example? Classic Scenic (not to say that it was good b4. tongue.gif) .... look at yesterday numbers... where the oomph? Lucky got that divi announcement... )

5. The recent BNM impact on exporters?? How big is the impact?? ( see http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government...ort-fx-proceeds )

anymore?

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Ok la, not all export counters good, but some keep doing very well, increasing volume sold, not just on forex terms.

Only export I hold now is Superln and Comfort. sweat.gif

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post Aug 24 2017, 08:51 AM

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Another potential growth stock for ah boon..

Prestar.. brows.gif

One chart says it all... steel ore price = steel price increase = stock becomes more valuable = higher margins

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post Aug 24 2017, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 24 2017, 08:51 AM)
Another potential growth stock  for ah boon..

Prestar..  brows.gif

One chart says it all... steel ore price = steel price increase = stock becomes more valuable = higher margins

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because of the yesterday QR?

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