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post Jul 19 2025, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 19 2025, 01:22 AM)
Based on those listed; 5060TI is overall slightly faster than 9060xt

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Sure, for RM400-500 more money. That spot is also occupied by 7800 XT.
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post Jul 19 2025, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 19 2025, 12:34 PM)
5060Ti is newer, has better RT, more features (DLSS4, DLAA, MFG, etc), much lower power consumption and less heat output.

Since its within OP budget, then why not go for the best his budget can maximise.
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LOL? Newer does not mean its better. And RT is performance hit. Imagine playing it at this level of performance.

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Unless 7800 XT is out of stock or back to normal price. There is no reason to go 5060 Ti 16GB.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 19 2025, 03:25 PM)
Percentage dont mean much without context. RT is playable even in most demanding of todays games (Indy)

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Going 7800xt, OP will defo need a new higher watt PSU. More money spent for same perf. WTH!
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Yeah, 1920x1080! LOL

Real benchmarks. I don't hide the truth.

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More than 10% raster performance is not the same.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 19 2025, 04:36 PM)
xx60 family is realistically now 1080P high/ultra GPU, it still makes your 9060xt looks worse.
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Can't win the fight, so now you change subject. We are back to RM400-500 more money when you wanna compare it to RX 9060 XT. And for RM400-500 more for a mere 5% more performance from 5060 Ti 16GB. There is RX 7800 XT sitting at that price as well. Clearly you want Nvidia win. You cannot win price/performance fight.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 19 2025, 07:41 PM)
I look at price/value. Theres clear performance (which 5060TI trumps over 9060xt) and then theres better features (5060TI over 7800xt). The 5060TI value sits somewhere in between these 2 AMD GPUs and its not a matter of whos winning here (I dont give a ratsass about you). Its what the buyer looks to the value of each GPU and evaluate which gives them more value per dollar. You can make it a  price/performance fight but reality a buying decision is not as simple as that.

Of course you are free to go your favourite tech store and holler at all customers there buying 5060TIs and below....
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Value you say. Lets see. As someone who has both 4080 and 9070 XT. AMD drivers are far more stable this year. DLSS? There is FSR which is the weaker version but it is improving. Both could get you artifacts. Frame generation? There is input lag. Video codec? AMD significantly improved this one. I no longer loathe it.

Now when it comes to hardware. Don't forget 5700X is still on PCIE 4.0. 5060 Ti is running on PCIE 5.0 X8. It will definitely hold back a bit of performance for 5060 Ti. And Nvidia drivers also comes with some overhead. Is it worth RM400-500 more for more performance on 5060 Ti? Definitely not for me. There is 7800 XT sitting at RM2149. You can writeoff RT at this performance level as well.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 20 2025, 10:09 AM)
Not just me alone but even utube says so


Scroll to https://youtu.be/4QwsVHoLos8?t=854

As for PCIE bandwidth scaling, theres negligible difference
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-g...scaling/31.html

As someone who has 4080 and 9070xt, these lower end cards values obviously doesnt rhyme with you since your not the target market.
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LOL. Shifting goal post again. Now you linked a best USD300 card video when the original poster looking for 16GB cards with around RM1600 vs RM2000.

The target market does matter when it comes to drivers and features. Because lower end cards cannot handle RT. LOL
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 20 2025, 06:38 PM)
If you actually cared to watch b4 you pound the keeb, the GPUS featured are the ones OP listed + B580.

Whenever I can I am running RT on my 3060Ti, so far been doing > 100 FPS 1080P High w/o DLSS, played thru Metro EE on RT, DOOM E on RT, COD MW2019 on RT. Too bad SM2 has no RT but still that game is gorgeous at 120FPS Ultra/High. I have no doubts 5060TI will perform better in RT than 2 my generations older GPU.
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Your original argument is 5060 Ti 16GB. The recommendation which is around RM2000-2100 instead of cheaper RX 9060 XT 16GB. What "watch before I post"? You are the one changing. Have to go as low as putting $300 card video benchmarks and followed that conclusion. Yeah, keep on inflating post count by posting nonsense even when I already showed the data.

Those are older games. It comes with old system requirements.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 21 2025, 11:40 AM)
LOL whats the problem when that 5060TI was amongst the list of cards being considered? What to blame go blame OP budget is so wide margin. Its not like I am you telling him "go buy better GPUS even if you cant afford it, because these are better than your choices". Your just fighting in quicksand here.

Admittedly these are older games as I work thru my backlog, I might wanna try Clair Obscur to compare latest games looking at how gorgeous and how well optimised for AAA game unlike the many VRAM eating unfinished POS today.
The again, Metro EE and Doom E were frequently used for benchmarking until recently so I can still relate my gameplay with these tested results...
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And I already showed 5060 Ti not worth the price.

Ok, since you still want to continue with different goal post even when he decided with 9060 XT 16GB. His list also got 7700 XT and 6800 XT for second hand. It will blow all $300 cards away. With money to spare for PSU.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 21 2025, 03:11 PM)
Strawman argument that AMD shills like to use, then they complains why the market reality is not follow their reality...
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-secur...-150444612.html

Mind you if want to argue pricing, BOTH here sux. Nvidia set their own suka hati price levels and AMD basically "follows Nvidia less $50" which isnt the pricing level that gamers want. Only ARC has reasonable prices when available
Of course used GPUS has better raster perf/dollar coz its used. But then RX 6000 series has worse features than 7000series which has worse features than 9000series (RT, crappier FSR gen, encoding, streaming, work apps use). So there will be other limitations handicapping older GPUS. So again it depends on ones usage for the GPU.
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92% market share means nothing when there are some garbage and overpriced products. I don't even want those for free.

LOL going with RT again. Running with tape recorder? 6800 is crap with video codec.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 21 2025, 10:08 PM)
As I said, your not the majority target market but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Not sure whats your beef with RT tho...
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As much as at least 50% doesn't know what they are buying. At least now people check and make sure they are not buying rubbish.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...ower-spec-model
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...etween-variants

RT is very demanding. It wont be smooth using low to mid range products. Especially recent games.



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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 22 2025, 12:15 PM)
Umm your beef is with the value of 5060TI but those articles you linked is telling that people are buying 5060TI 16GB over the 8GB models. Their still buying the 5060TI which your hating anyhows.
So not sure what your trying to say here, that the 50% who checks are still stupid for buying 5060TIs? Basically 100% are still stupid in your books?  sweat.gif

RT has been getting better, the hit to lower end GPUS arent as bad as 2060 or even 2070 was. Nowadays some games allow to choose which RT effects to turn on so theres a lot more room to tweak when the GPU has enough 'horsepower'.

2060 was barely playable with RT even with lowest settings
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5060 is quite comfortable in RT with some games
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RT has evolved over the years.
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Majority of buyers doesn't know what they are buying. Many will fall into the trap when they buy it from random sellers.

BF V is old game.
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Acer Arc B580 12GB at RM1004.95 tonight. Unbelievable value.

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Jul 24 2025, 11:15 AM)
Great value! Does the CPU overhead also affect i5 12400F or only older CPUs?
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Got 12400 videos with b580 on YouTube. Overhead can happen on CPU demanding games like Monster hunter wilds.

RX 9060 XT 16GB deletes everyone.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 26 2025, 05:17 PM)
Fixed that for you icon_idea.gif

Even slightly older titles can eat up CPU cycles like no tomorrow - I just finished Wild Hearts and I was surprised how CPU demanding this game is despite the age sweat.gif
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QUOTE(brenleekw @ Jul 26 2025, 06:29 PM)
Hi guys, looking for some advice on the following build. Main purpose of the PC would be gaming at 1440p high/max settings for at least a good couple of years (of course lowering settings as games get more demanding).

Was quoted the below build and besides the GPU and CPU i'm really not knowledgeable enough on the other parts.

INTEL CORE I5 14400F 10C/16T
MSI PRO B760M-E D5 LGA1700
KINGSTON F.B RGB 2X8GB (16GB) 5600MHZ D5
SAPPHIRE PULSE RX 9070 XT GAMING 16GB GDDR6
T FORCE Z44A 500GB NVME M.2 GEN4
FSP VITA BD ATX3.1 (PCIE5.1) 750W 80+ BRONZE
INVASION C-8000 ARGB MATX CHASSIS
DEEPCOOL AG400 BK ARGB V2 AIR COOLER
RM5,799

Would you consider this a fair deal? Are there any parts you would recommend swapping out?

Thanks!
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Which monkey quotes 16GB RAM and DRAMless 500GB SSD rubbish for 2025 rig?

Core i5-14400F - 500 (Brightstar)
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 126 (Just IT)
MSI B760M-E DDR5 - 380 (Brightstar)
Acer Predator Pallas II 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit - 450 (Dotatech)
Sapphire RX 9070 XT 16GB Pulse - 3282 (Dotatech)
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 373 (Thundermatch)
FSP Vita GM 850W - 514 (Just IT)
Tecware Fusion Air M2 case - 126 (Dotatech)

RM5751 total (Shopee prices until 27th July 2025. Can't guarantee later)

I would advise upgrading to MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi DDR5 at RM585 for better VRM (Voltage Regulator Module).

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Jul 27 2025, 12:51 PM)
For 1440P gaming at high/ultra maxed out I would target something like RM 6.5k ~7.5k.

AMD R5 7600X + MSI B650M Gaming Wifi PLUS then later on can upgrade to 9800X3d or 10800X3d
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 (bigger size to handle x3d CPU)
Acer Predator Pallas II 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit - 450 (Dotatech)
Kingston KC3000 / Adata S70 Blade 2TB (games are eating more space)
FSP Vita GM 850W - 514 (Just IT)
Target to get ATX case for better airflow https://www.lazada.com.my/products/invasion...4168130602.html

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Sapphire RX 9070 XT 16GB Pulse - 3282 (Dotatech)

5070TI 16GB DDR7 - 4200 (to max out everything inc RT)
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You can get 5070 Ti for RM3387 now.

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You still cannot max RT on some games.

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 27 2025, 01:39 PM)
What voucher you got there?
I only have 3% cap RM80 voucher.

And just as typing here, the link page is gone.
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Probably someone watching this space...

I just took it the picture from my phone. All IT was selling it at that price.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 29 2025, 10:47 AM)
All IT back again with 5070 ti, this time got RM300 voucher, after less is RM3549.

Only 4 unit left
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Use your phone. I still see RM3387.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jul 30 2025, 09:38 AM)
I'm using phone.
I don't have the voucher that you have. Yesterday I got RM300 cap voucher, today the voucher disappear and I only left with RM200 cap voucher. My price now higher by RM100.

Today still left 3 units. Even at this price only manage to attract 1 buyer.
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RM3549 right now for me. I guess voucher also got dice roll. Maybe credit card?
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Acer nitro RX 9070 XT 16GB at RM3099.

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