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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V13!

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post Nov 19 2023, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(illustriousry @ Nov 18 2023, 04:14 PM)
5k budget can build Ryzen 5 7600 + 6700xt or should I just ask my friend stick with DDR4. He say wanna upgrade in the future so abit dilemma now.
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AM4 5800x3d + 32GB (16GB x2) DDR4 is good enuff for the foreseeable future, any upgrade that will have significant difference will be better GPU, and Gen4/5 SSD that can max out PCIE4 bandwidth.
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post Nov 19 2023, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(dan137 @ Nov 19 2023, 01:39 AM)
been a while didn't follow graphic card tech. Need recommendation for graphic card. Build this rig 2 years back during MCO for my son's school pdpr, now looking for graphic card upgrade as he keen on playing games now.

current spec:

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X
MoBo: ASRock B550M Steel Legend
RAM: 32GB ddr4
monitor: AOC 24G2
PSU: HX1000W (my very old PSU)
graphic card: R5870-PM2D1G (my very old grahic card)
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How old is that 'very old PSU'? Original rating is 1000W but by now it would have gone down significantly. If want to run 6700XT/ 3070Ti long term, I would put in extra budget for a PSU just in case it kaputs earlier.
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post Nov 19 2023, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Nov 19 2023, 06:53 PM)

but, don't know local distro follow or not..
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Lol! Ur seller so you should know better, but what I seen Radeons here are kaw overpriced and never follow global market pricing down and promos (wheres the free Starfield?!). AMD Msia still smoking while their sales go up in smoke.

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post Nov 25 2023, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Nov 24 2023, 10:30 AM)
because of AM5. kehkehkeh. it will be easier if it is LGA1700 with ddr4.

7600x, aorus elite ax. phantom spirit 120se. nzxt h5 flow. might re-use 3070. looking for ram that can fit the cpu cooler..
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Kingston Fury Beast & Renegade nonRGB sticks will fit below the 42mm gap under the PS120 but the fan might have to move upwards. Corsair Vengence LPX nonRGB might fit too but they dont give RAM height.

The question is why AM5?
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post Nov 26 2023, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Nov 25 2023, 11:14 PM)
Pny XLR8 16gb DdR4 3200mhz, can??
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XLR8 DDR4 nonRGB rises to only 32mm height so yes it will but why DDR4, the OP is asking for AM5 so meaning only DDR5. If that then MAKO nonRGB DDR5 rises to only 35mm so it still fits thou might have to raise the front fan a little.
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post Nov 26 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Fatimus @ Nov 26 2023, 08:59 AM)
Good day all,

Below is my current 4 years old rig:-

OS: Windows 11
Proc: Ryzen 2600
Mobo: MSI B550 Gaming Plus (Previously MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon)
GPU: Power Colour red devil 5700xt
Memory: 32 GB Ram (2 x 16gb 3200mhz; brand patriot)
Corsair RM850 as PSU

I am thinking of slowly upgrading my processor and then my GPU. I am mostly use for gaming at 1080p, and been slowly venturing into racing sim, with a little rpg and rts.

For Processor, I have been looking at the raved 5800x3d, or is there any suitable alternative ? I also read that 5800x3d needed to be underclock for more efficiency, is that true ?

As for GPU, there's a rumour that nvidia will refresh their current RTX into super line next year, while AMD will only reveal new stuff on 2025. will my Ryzen 2600 bottleneck the current and future GPU ? Or any new and current GPU will do ?

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Upgrade the CPU as its EOL platform ady so 5800x3d might stop selling sooner than later. Then later upgrade GPU, but if you do that might have to upgrade PSU to a better unit too. So budget for that as well.
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post Nov 26 2023, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(throwawayacclmao @ Nov 26 2023, 03:19 PM)
Hey folks,

I am thinking of doing a migration from my current build to an ITX.

Below is my current build:
CPU | Ryzen 5 3600
Cooler | Scythe Fuma 2
MOBO | Asrock B450m Pro4
RAM | Corsair 2x8GB LPX 3200mhz
GPU | Zotac GTX1660S
CASE | Cooler Master K500L
PSU | Gigabyte P650B

Trying to salvage as much part as posible as it's still pretty good for my use case.
Will the sifus please recommend me the best compact ITX build while maximizing the reuse of my existing build? Thanks a lot!
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If ur looking for ITX build inside a conventional case ie NR200 pretty much mostly can port over, ur main limiter is ITX AM4 mobo as not many brands does it and they can be quite costly. Try Asrock & Asus;
https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570%20Phantom...TXTB3/index.asp
https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550%20Phantom...ITXax/index.asp
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550M-ITXac/index.asp (cheapest but the crappiest)

https://rog.asus.com/my/motherboards/rog-st...i-gaming-model/
https://rog.asus.com/my/motherboards/rog-st...i-gaming-model/

And then to get a decent SFX PSU plus the NR200 case. Thats all. The Fuma2 cooler will fit nicely along with the low profile LPX RAMS.

If ur going for the more unique DANS type, thats a whole different kettle.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 26 2023, 09:41 PM)
ITX got some tax. Could not find MSI B550i Gaming Edge on sale.

Option 1:
Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro - 885
Cooler Master V 650W SFX - 519
Cooler Master NR200P - 269

Option 2 (even smaller):
EK AIO 240 D-RGB - 298
Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro - 885
Cooler Master V 650W SFX - 519
Lian Li A4-H2O (about PS5 size) or Lian Li PC-Q58 - 639 / 569
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Oh gawd please no Gigashit and their backdoor bios with crappy interface. There are others around.
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post Nov 26 2023, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 26 2023, 10:00 PM)
They fixed their issue ages ago.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550I-...support-dl-bios

And yes, I don't recommend Asrock crap too. You can pay Asus tax if u want other.
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But you wont know if there are other shits hidden until it reveal. Still nope for Gigashit.

Yes Asrock do have crap stuff but they also have good value for money ones like my B660M PG Riptide, PG Sonic, Steel Legend. Giga lower to mainstream mobos are all shits. Asus tax.. well if one is gonna be paying an ITX tax might as well pay extra for something good (in the context of ITX).
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QUOTE(FourZeroFour @ Nov 28 2023, 12:42 PM)
Guys. Can recommend me a decent build to play modern games at high settings. Budget cap is 2.5k-3k. Dont need monitor for now as ill be using my 42in tv as monitor
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What kinda 'modern games'? Roblox & Minecraft has vastly different requirements for high setting to to lets say Starfield & AW2.

If its those AAA games, that Rm3k is only enough for the GPU alone (6800XT).

For high settings, ur looking at 5k budget.

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post Nov 28 2023, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(FourZeroFour @ Nov 28 2023, 05:22 PM)
Yeah AAA games is what I meant by modern games. Cant recall the correct wording. Been out of loop of pc gaming for so long. So if the new budget now is 5k whats the spec looks like
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5k is really a mid low just to support the GPU for high settings today but might not be high in next year games.

To really have a good system that will last long, I reco a budget up to 7k if can.

Get :
CPU with 8 big cores (or really fast 6 cores) - so 13500 tak kira unless budget is really tight dy
Mobo with VRM that can support the full turbo/PBO unlimited
Go DDR4 if low budget or DDR5 if budget can afford at least 32GB 6000MHZ kits
3k budget for GPU, go RTX if ur tend to use more RT/PT, go RX if want FPS per dollar
Decent minimum Btier PSU 850-1000W
Decent airflow type case ie Nexus Air, no need branded like Corsair or Fractal unless budget can support

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Nov 28 2023, 06:29 PM)
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Dare dare hoot Ryzen 9

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Nvidia rtx 4070 gpu

this will get the job done..

Kek..
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For regular users I highly doubt will need up to 64GB RAM plus those sticks are usually high density dual rank and AM4 dun XMP well with these type of RAM. So its just waste of money when sellers pad up the budget unnecessarily. Max also 16x2 GB more than plenty.

And I will trade that NV2shit and HDD for a 2TB Transcend MTE220S DRAM SSD for just RM100 more. That QLC NAND + DRAMless will not last long used as OS drive.

And why pay Asus tax for an AIO? Plenty of other cheaper options.
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Nov 30 2023, 02:41 PM)
already edited to OBS Studio
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This is the official hardware specs

RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 11 (64 bit)
Processor: Intel i7 8700K, AMD Ryzen 1600X
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce 10 Series, Radeon 5000 Series, Intel Xe
DirectX: Version 11

You can refer here for some pointers
https://www.cgdirector.com/obs-system-requi...ecommendations/

Basically is steaming encoding so ur best bet is going NVIDIA NVENC and a 3060 12GB has the minimum required grunt for encoding on the fly.
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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Nov 30 2023, 10:08 PM)
yup, did some research too based on the webpage, was contemplating whether to get just GTX1650 or RTX3060/4060. Since friend only using to stream event/conferences for his workplace in FHD, maybe GTX1650 is suffice. Thank you for the extra references 😬
I see, last time my friend did try using Intel Quick Sync for the OBS Studio, maybe some wrong set up that cause some issues. Will ask him to try and look into it. Thank you!
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GTX 1000series have previous gen NVENC so it lacks some features support, better to get newer like 3050 at least. But if ur friend game while streaming at least 3060 12GB is needed.
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QUOTE(AEROZ @ Dec 2 2023, 09:46 AM)
Hi, want to ask if it's possible to get a DDR5 based system (for future upgrade) with RTX4070 within RM 5K budget for 1440p gaming (excluding monitor and keyboard)?
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Yes possible but might have to make some sacrifices, mix & match older gen parts

i7 12700F (cheapest 8core CPU)
CPU cooler can use stock if out of budget (at stock PL1=65W) otherwise PA/PS120 /SE dual tower, or Mugen5RevC, SE226XT, Forza85, for beefy single tower (PL1=PL2=180W)
B760M MSI PRO-A / ASROCK PG RIPTIDE, PG SONIC
6600MHZ DDR5 (16x2) 32GB (find the 2 brands a few pages back)
Cheapest 4070 is Zotac https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tmt-zota...9980289678.html?
but it is 2 fan config so if ur looking for a bigger 3x fan type then Colorful for nearly 2.9k https://www.lazada.com.my/products/colorful...9865318403.html?
Decent Btier 850W PSU (1000W if looking to get a higher class GPU in future) FSP Hydro G/ X/ PTM
Decent Airflow ATX case ie Tecware Nexus Air / Montech Air 1000
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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 2 2023, 10:01 AM)
Change psu to fsp hydro k pro 750watt
Minus the acer monitor
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Hydro K is Ctier not reco for a x70 series GPU, get at least Btier Hydro G/ X/ PTM
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QUOTE(AEROZ @ Dec 2 2023, 11:45 AM)
Thank you. If I want a cpu with igpu as backup (in the event the gpu is spoil), which intel/amd cpu and ddr5 mobo do u recommend?
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LOL just get the regular 12700 then not the F nor KF
AM5 dun play well with DDR5 above 6000MHZ so no room for future upgrade there. Plus AM5 still more expensive than ADL based LGA1700.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 2 2023, 11:50 AM)
Intel ARC driver still has lotsa bugs and very poor Day1 game compatibility. Wait until Battlemage for this GPU platform to mature.
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Not many posted their long term experience with Ryzen (esp AM5) but here is one from a more famous Utuber.

Take it what you will as many online claim he is an Intel shill. But local system builders might able to back that up?


Private owners experience could differ and might have no issues but majority are build 1-3 system at most so a sample size too few to judge.
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QUOTE(seand19 @ Dec 5 2023, 11:28 AM)
I saw this and was wondering if there are any experts that can help build this or know where i can find these items to build it out.

This is as close as i can to describe exactly what i intend to do, https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNCkEdBj/

[Budget] - n/a (keeps growing as i expand), not sure on start-up cost

[Purpose] - home cloud network/server along with media hub

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - HDD of various sizes from 4tb to 8tb

[Monitor resolution] - doesn't matter

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - the suggested ones are unraid or TrueNas

[Personal preferences] - looking for opinions

[Location] - Selangor
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Oh wow! A JBOD rig, thats in prosumer server territory dy. Need server kaki to give opinion.

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