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post May 22 2021, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2021, 01:44 AM)
Make sure to do a clean install of Windows before using, as the bloatware preloaded can take up a sizeable chunk of system resources:


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unnecessary. just uninstall all pre-loaded apps except the dell supportassist app will do.
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post May 22 2021, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 22 2021, 01:05 PM)
your friend bought a xps 8940 and got lemon? kindly describe the defect.
buying this = support miners  ranting.gif
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don't know what problem, waiting dell technician bring parts to test and replace (or repair). prolly next week.

lol…apa sarahan miners.
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post May 22 2021, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2021, 10:34 PM)
Personally I find a complete clean install would be better, since from my experience uninstalling those bloatware can be a pain especially how those bloatware behave sweat.gif
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nope…trust me…it's not as bloated as you imagine and not annoying like your android phone.

just plain simple click uninstall…that's all.

of course…if u insist, just register warranty for the rig on the dell app 1st then only do whatever you want.

for those custom builder os mysophobia ocd folk, use diskpart to delete all recovery partition and install windows 10 ltsc lo…haha
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post May 22 2021, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ May 22 2021, 11:06 PM)
Note that LTSC is not licensed for end user use, and procuring one will need to go to some shady websites for one (who knows those ISOs are tampered or otherwise) sweat.gif
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ya…but not a big deal for home user.

ISO tampered or not u can crosscheck md5/sha1/sha256 value…no worry here.

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post May 24 2021, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(viqq @ May 24 2021, 07:16 PM)
Oops misinterpreted your message. Soz.

I was aiming for the XPG SX8200Pro all the while until I saw your post, but then again it still ran out of stock at the place where I live.

XPG S50 Lite was another consideration which also ran out of stock. Finally settled for Corsair MP510 since they are in stock.

Interestingly, my MSI B550 Tomahawk doesn't allow me to install more than 2 m.2 ssds. The full-length PCIe Gen 3 x4 slot and the uppermost PCIe Gen 3 x1 slot share bandwidth with the lower M.2 connection. When the x1 slot is used, the M.2 connection drops to PCIe Gen 3 x2 link speed and the full-length PCIe slot is rendered unusable. Equally so, when an M.2 SSD is installed in the bottom slot, the full-length PCIe slot is completely unusable.

But on the other hand, I guess it means I can install 2 x m.2 ssds and 6 SATA drives? since the PCIe slot doesn't share the lanes with the SATA ports?
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u must understand how many pcie lanes provided from your processor, and how the mobo share the pcie lanes.

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post May 28 2021, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ May 28 2021, 08:19 PM)
INTEL CORE I7 11700
ASROCK B560 STEEL LEGEND
KINGSTON HYPERX PREDATOR RGB DDR4 3200MHZ 16GBX2

VS

AMD RYZEN 7 3700X
MSI B550 MAG TOMAHAWK
KINGSTON HYPERX PREDATOR RGB DDR4 3200MHZ 16GBX2
Both price similar. Which one to choose?
[Purpose] Multitasking - office work, heavy browsing, youtube, chat and etc which consuming 16GB of RAM(That's why new Rig need 32GB RAM). No gaming.
Rig currently using as below signature.
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get the intel build.

at least no need panic when gpu down at this moment.
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post May 28 2021, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(wordplay @ May 28 2021, 04:06 PM)
Tq for the suggestion. Suggest me a decent GPU for this rig. (Used or new)
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any build requires gpu go for dell pre-built.

else you only can opt for gt1030 at the moment.
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post Jun 3 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Titanhere123 @ Jun 3 2021, 08:37 AM)
Yes,sifu,I did check with Dell Dekstop.I didn't consider them because I scared that I am going to upgrade in future and thus warranty will be an issue.Besides,I heard that their case cooling is an issue too . sad.gif Sifu,can you tell me which package is better /future upgrading?
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read the whole page here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5136574

and here
https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops...er/td-p/7690322

QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 3 2021, 08:46 AM)
This one. Already set to 3 years warranty.

https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/desktop-com...b5-af900b34e3a2

Code MY15OFF might still work. Remember to bother their customer support for "premium luxury" cooler. BOTAK_WAI knows another alternative cooler.
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plug n play options
1. Arctic Freezer i13X CO
2. Vetroo V5
3. Dell p/n VWD01

non plug n play option
1. Noctua NH-U9S

QUOTE(Lineage @ Jun 3 2021, 09:52 AM)
XPS can "ask" for premium cooler? I thought only Alienware. Good to know.  rclxm9.gif

If want to upgrade the RAM, better to use system specific ram or just value ram will do?  hmm.gif
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i bought both VWD01 and 612F7 under rm150 from dell

case fan just reuse the fan from dell stock cpu cooler fan as case fan

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jun 3 2021, 09:58 AM)
xps macam no premium cooler option.. aiya... wan buy xps better u prepare extra money for mobo, casing n psu.. change it when warranty end
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p/n VWD01 and 612F7

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jun 3 2021, 09:58 AM)
ignore the 3yr warranty... i would strongly suggest change mobo, casing n psu after warranty end... the b460m damn noob
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XPS 8940 is using H470 chipset mobo

QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 3 2021, 10:58 AM)
the constant thermal throttling due to cheap cpu cooler is getting into my nerve
planning to upgrade it, but judging from a few videos out there, noctua is the only one that's be able to tame this cpu, but requires some cutting/drilling on the backplate?  that's i'm not willing to do
arctic freezer is not bad but still get throttling in cinebench hmm.gif

so anyone out here managed to change the cooler without major modification that will void the warranty?

also anyone added heatsink to the VRM?  does it help?
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Noctua NH-U9S…you need buy extra screw to fit that
all mod tutorials here

https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops...er/td-p/7690322

even after using noctua you will unlikely to get thermal throttling…but you will still throttled by PL2 power limit wor…

case fan just reuse the fan from dell stock cpu cooler fan as case fan…no need buy funny funny exhaust fan.

intake fan also no need buy la, just reuse the stock rear case fan as intake fan. (mount mod required)

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jun 3 2021, 09:52 AM)
XPS can "ask" for premium cooler? I thought only Alienware. Good to know.  rclxm9.gif

If want to upgrade the RAM, better to use system specific ram or just value ram will do?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 3 2021, 10:04 AM)
Value RAM will do. As for the cooler....


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ram wise buy this

https://shopee.com.my/product/157405/794537...39-1622692407.9

Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-3200AA @ RM279 per stick

ori xps 8940 comes with 2 stick 8gb sk hynix, so just drop in 2 of these samsung ram then you have 48gb already.

owai…the samsung is out of stock…just let you guys know the price per 16gb stick
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post Jun 4 2021, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 28 2021, 01:51 PM)
PNY CS3030 500GB - 359

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jun 2 2021, 04:03 PM)
pny cs3030 500gb RM319

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God damn Chia miners

PNY Quietly Reduces XLR8 CS3030 SSD's Endurance by Almost 80%
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pny-xlr8-...most-80-percent

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post Jun 4 2021, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jun 4 2021, 09:05 AM)
Yeah, bye bye to PNY. Only Corsair MP510 and Transcend MTE220S left.
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sx8200 pro already how many revision? haha
can't keep up with their silent change.

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post Jun 11 2021, 12:10 AM

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for those who are still coming in lurking or asking for gpu purchase recommendation, this is still the situation now until further notice, hopefully the gpu draught will be ended soon.

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post Jun 13 2021, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cat_food_lover @ Jun 13 2021, 09:45 PM)
Hi, can advice WFH monitor and mechanical keyboard?

Budget below RM700 and I wish to have bigger screen cuz always looking at reports. My current samsung 20" monitor seems insufficient to cater for my daily needs (dual screen) right now, but will keep it as 2nd monitor.

Prefer to have IPS & Display Port (at least can last long for extra 3 years ++, not so outdated la).
For mechanical keyboard, I'm looking to have MK with red switch (not cherry also ok la), budget around rm300++.  always swift between 2 laptops + 2 phones. Looking for something like IKBC W210, but need hot-swappable & PBT cap.
Thank you!
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post Jun 20 2021, 08:22 PM

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talking about better cooling, those who seldom or lazy change thermal paste, better use long lasting type.

1. Honeywell PTM7950-SP (phase change thermal interface material)

2. Honeywell PTM7900-SP (phase change thermal interface material)

Best way to apply thermal paste is "X" pattern:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gE411j7av...307193557735473

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QUOTE(neyo5361 @ Jul 24 2021, 01:54 PM)
Hi Sifus sekalian, plan to upgrade my rig to below.

Ryzen 5 5600X
Gigabyte B550 Arous Elite
Gigabyte Aorous RGB 3773mhz (2 x 8GB)
XPG Spectrix S40G RGB (512GB)
Deapcool DQ Series 650W 80+Gold

use back graph card and casing

Total around RM 3200
original rig is intel I5 4440 with 16GB ram and GTX960.

plan to up the GPU to 3060 in the future once the price reasonable.

Is it good or any better recommendation?

Thanks!
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no point to upgrade if still using gtx960.
if u wait the gpu price to become reasonable then by that time new gen come out already.
upgrade gpu 1st.


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post Jul 26 2021, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 26 2021, 09:40 AM)
There is ID Cooling SE-224XT. Kindly take note CPU these days will boost according with the cooling (and how good is the motherboard's VRM) they have. That is the reason why Mugen 5 is recommended.
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ya…some more if future change cpu to i7 or i9, mugen 5 is better than se-224xt.

cyrogx6 just get the mugen 5 je
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Aug 16 2021, 04:18 PM)
Can some sifu advise me which m.2 2230 network wifi+bluetooth card to get? I have Asrock b550m steel legend MOBO. My usage is just connecting to my bluetooth speaker and TWS Tranya (with 5.1 BT) on gaming when I don't feel like wearing my headphones.
Is Intel AC wireless good enough? 8265 model. Since my MOBO has allocation for m.2 network card, I'm thinking of utilizing it by getting wifi + bluetooth combo.
Will that be good or should I just get ordinary Orico 5.0 BT Dongle instead? I'm looking to achieve <100ms latency for BT if possible
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AX201: CNVio
AX200: PCIE

amd cannot use AX201. more info u can read here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5143038/+0
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QUOTE(hebehow @ Aug 20 2021, 09:02 PM)
Hi sifu, can ask opinion which better to pick among tis 2?and anything can change for that option?

Option A:
RYZEN 5 3600 AM4 4.2 GHZ | 6 Cores 12 Threads
PNY RTX 3060 Ti UPRISING Dual Fan LHR 8GB
GIGABYTE A520M DS3H WIFI (Includes AC Wi-Fi + Bluetooth)
KLEVV PERF 16GB 3200MHZ UDIMM (8 X 2)
800W FSP HYDRO PRO 80+ BRONZE
LEXAR NM620 512GB NVME SSD 3300MB/S
AIR COOLING : LEVEL51 M-40 Frost (SE-224-XT)
RM 5599

Option B:
INTEL 11TH GEN I5-11400F
ASROCK B560M PRO 4 AC+
PALIT RTX 3060 TI DUAL
XPG SPECTRIX D50 3200MHZ (8GB x 2)
XPG SPECTRIX S20G NVME 512GB
FSP HYDRO GD 650W 80+ GOLD
COOLER MASTER ML240L ARGB V2
COOLER MASTER MB311L ARGB
Rm6590

Or last option dell xps 8940
11th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-11700 processor(8-Core, 16M Cache, 2.5GHz to 4.9GHz)
Memory
16GB, 8Gx2, DDR4, 2933MHz
Storage
512GB PCIe M.2 SSD +1TB SATA 7200 RPM HDD
Graphic Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3060 Ti™ 8GB GDDR6
Operation System
Windows 10 Home Single Language 64-bit English
Rm6299 from dell website
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Aug 22 2021, 01:50 PM)
Neither, because the first one has:
Overpriced CPU, possibly underpowered VRMs on the A520 board, low quality SSD and PSU, and possibly overpriced GPU as well sweat.gif

The second one has:
Low quality PSU, and is ridiculously overpriced sweat.gif

The Dell one is the best of the lot, but you'll have to deal with poor thermals (might need a cooler upgrade, but Dell uses proprietary cooling mounts so you will need to do you own research on what cooler fits on the machine - BOTAK_WAI should be able to advise you on this), proprietary components, locked down BIOS and bloatware sweat.gif
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dell 1 ok la…just use it like how u use your office pc, that's it.

6299 a bit overpriced. last time apply MY15OFF for 15% off then worth.

cpu cooler upgrade is a must.
more info can look here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5160448

and here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5136574

and here
https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops...er/td-p/7690322

personally i don't care about temp on prebuilt pc so much since got 3 years premium onsite warranty, just use until kaput. by the time i think already is the time for upgrade dah.

i directly order from Dell for the tower cpu cooler and vrm heatsink (Dell p/n 0VWD01 & 0612F7), that cost me below RM150 (free shipping for me i'm surprise). then i use the fan from the ori pancake cpu cooler (59cfm) to replace the casing exhaust fan (40cfm), that's all.

the stock all core boost (all core 4.4ghz) duration only last for 28s and it will hit 90c (155w tdp) on the dell tower cooler, after that will be power throttled to all core 3.9ghz then 3.8ghz then gradually until 3.5ghz (lowest), i can't remember correctly it should be running around 85-95w in long duration, about 75-80c on the dell tower cpu cooler. 11700 best power and thermal efficiency for all core max load is frequency around 4ghz (3.9ghz-4.1ghz).

the above scenario is just the max load for factory setting. if u want to raise the cpu power limit duration with intel extreme tuning utility or throttlestop software then need beefier cpu cooler lo like thermalright ta120ex mini.

for gaming wise, just simply get any compatible tower cooler and let the cpu boost to the frequency as high as it wants.

storage expandability wise, on top of the existing 512gb m.2 nvme ssd and 1tb 3.5" hdd, u can add on an extra 3.5" hdd (need an extra sata power extension cable and sata cable), 2.5" hdd, m.2 nvme ssd (using pcie adapter).

good thing on dell are the 3 years onsite premium support, the proprietary mobo makes the front usb ports have stable power supply for ext hdd, compact size casing, free keyboard and mouse (quite good quality) laugh.gif.

bad thing on dell are those limitation on parts upgrade and limited customization on bios, and other prebuilt cons u could think.

hope these info could help those who are in considering to get a prebuilt pc.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 24 2025, 09:59 AM)
Acer Arc B580 12GB at RM1004.95 tonight. Unbelievable value.

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hi, is this gpu ok for lightroom ai denoise?

i know adobe software optimized for apple silicon and nvidia.

thanks in advance for reply.
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post Aug 4 2025, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 4 2025, 10:45 AM)
thanks.

but too bad reviewer only done test for export 50x jpeg not AI denoise.

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