Try Cinebench R23 for 30mins with HWINFO monitoring ur CPU temps & VRM temps (if available).

If it dont thermal throttle then ur system will most likely handle whatever you can throw at it ie render, AI, etc.

If it does throttle then ur need to further monitor if ur daily use case will go thermal as well, and if yes ur need to underclock & undervolt it to ensure ur system longevity. Go with TristanX reco for a downblower cooler so ur mobo VRMs dont fry itself in long run.

Timings can be manually adjusted after XMP but success at the fine edge is not a surety and results can differ from one another.

One key comparison is how their PCB board is made, as in the one with more layers would have better high speed stability (or so they say) and construction of the heatspreader can also be an edge factor ie whether it is just a thin piece metal more for looks or a chonky metal that will better dissipate heat.

Working PC you should get Intel + Nvidia + nonXMP RAMs. The details just wait for sifus here to reco

At the borderline Perhaps can consider get a better cooler sooner than later.

With such a powrful CPU Id advice dont skimp on cooling. A PA120/PS120 is like <Rm150 only.

Mind sharing why you would want to pay the Asus tax on that mobo? At a Rm1500 it is as costly as some Z790 mobos. Unless you need lots M2 slots, you can do with MSI Pro B760M-A (heck for a 13400, even the inferior -E could do fine).

AIO (esp w/ ARGB) does look nice but for work PC ur might want to get air coolers for long term reliability. And for a 13400, Thermalright PA120/PS120 is more than enough. If on a budget even basic coolers like SE224XT/XTS will done just fine.

RAMs you could go with Kingston Beast or Corsair Vengeance clocked to 2400MHZ JEDEC. Most of these have 4000+ XMP that you can turn on but I doubt ur workflow needs that higher speeds vs any XMP issues.

A good A tier 850W PSU will do fine for that 4070Ti but if ur planning future GPU upgrades better to get a 900/1000W unit.

@Myway @TristanX any recos for OP here?

Whats with the NZXT promo? Got dealer incentive this month?

NZXT h9 elite RM1,009.00
z790 NZXT white RM1,399.00
Colorful 32gb 6600mhz white rgb RM579.00
NZXT kraken 360 RGB RM969.00
i7-13700KF RM1,799.00
1TB KC3000 RM310.00
Sapphire Pure RX7800XT RM2,929.00
1st player steampunk 850w gold RM399.00
COOLING FAN / NZXT F120 RGB DUO TRIPLE PACK / WHITE / 3 x 120MM / 2Y WARRANTY / RM355.00
NZXT HUB RM99

And 3 of ur 4 recos have NZXT stuff

So if PSU ada stock pun dah kena NZXT virus

But would be interesting to see an all NZXT white build + Colorful iGame White / MSI Ventus 3X White GPU

Haha looks over performance wat. If want looks AND performance then get ROG Strix White but that is money down the drain

Bro, sure boh 500W OEM PSU for his 3070 kah? Even Techpowerup minimum suggested rating is 550W

If ur a Ryzen user dy then its okay to go for that setup otherwise refer what Myway said above

Ripjaws kit is overpriced unless ur planning to OC, otherwise just get the standard RAMs that gets put into recos here

Allocate 1/3 or Rm1k for GPU. With Rm2k will be tight for other parts.

AMD would be better for value but since ur not a user, cant reco it for you so for such super low budget will get last gen stuff;
i5 - 12400
MSI B660M-E
Intel Stock Cooler (any balance money can put to buy SE224XT/XTS)
Gskill DDR4 kit that you found
FSP HV Pro 650W
Techware Nexus/Forge M2 nonRGB or Montech Air 100

GPUwise Nvidia none is value for money, try get Radeon RX6600 8GB (nonXT) or used 6600XT for about Rm1k. Nvidia route only GTX1660 6GB.
Games are getting more demanding for more VRAMS.

If insist for AMD then an equivalent is
R5600 nonX
MSI B550M Pro VDH
Wraith Stock Cooler (any balance money can put to buy SE224XT/XTS)
Gskill DDR4 kit that you found
FSP HV Pro 650W
Techware Nexus/Forge M2 nonRGB or Montech Air 100
*Kingston KC3000 nvme 1tb (forgotten about storage)

Add RX6600 8GB for RM 1k.
Compared with RX6500 is day & nite, 6600 has 128bit vs 6500 64bit VRAM bus plus better core, giving 65% overall performance boost.

This ROG Strix mobo price could get you a Z790 which you can OC with that 12600K plus other upgraded features, so mind sharing why you would want to pay the Asus tax?

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Sep 23 2023, 01:18 AM

Depends on ur choice. I think my system looks cleaner with a MATX mobo in ATX case as I dont see as much the chips, bits & pieces. I have a 3060Ti thru the full width of that mobo so kinda covers the bottom half, and if I have a chungous GPU next, it prolly will completely covers the bottom half quite nicely.


I could get that clean look too on ATX mobo with those fully covered ones like NZXT N7 but those are usually high end and rather expensive.

There are quite a number of affordable white themed or silver/whitish themed mobos like Asrock Steel Legend, PG Sonic too (if you dont mind Sonic theme it is a very solid MATX mobo), MSI Mortar DDR5, etc

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Sep 23 2023, 09:37 PM

Which part of next year? Q1? Q2? Q3? Q4?
Do pay attention what will come up next thru the year, Meteorlake is coming soon, Arrowlake hmm maybe towards Q4? Ryzen 8000series might start coming too. GPUwise nothing significant seems to be in horizon unless AMD release R8000 high end to fight 4090 but too bad as AMD seem to confirm its unlikely will come soon. DDR5 prices will continue to drop while SSD prices might rise as current overinventory are reduced.

If USA goes into recession next year (quite likely), then you will have less money to spend on hardware as RM gets pressured. You might want to wait until Q4 then to let US stabilise after their own elections.

Dont worry about kena bambu for planning ahead, some people have more money than value sense. Dont listen to them. I had started planning my build 6 mths in advance b4 buying at end of 2022 and I chopped & changed nearly everything as I track hardware coming out as better stuff gets released and existing ones becomes cheaper.

LOL! Google is ur fren!

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/id-cooli....201d4413fJYVGi

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/4pin-fem....3c0bfe36L5yqii

Aint so complex if you readup on the difference between 3pin (V DC) and 4pin (PWM). They do work with each other but there's pros & cons.

Splitter for 4pin can also be used for 3 pin. No problem. Just make sure the RPM sense wire is for the fan you want to drive the speed variable.

That Arctic Fan will work and I did see it when I searching but its a PWM fan and better not to use V DC to control its speed (unless you want run full throttle all the time). The ID fan I gave is 3pin so it will work fine with ur mobo 3pin fan header.

12V & 5V is talking about the type of RGB lighting, nothing to do with ur matter.

Of course as a value for money mobo it will lack when compared with ur Maximus Formula that cost 3x more LOL. Not everyone has the money to afford high end hardware so we will go for value oriented stuff and for the price it is asking, there is a lot of value with nearly all the feature sets of an ATX mobo.

Colorful mobos seem to lack support, having only 4 bios updates vs 6 for the Sonic and that is a newer mobo family somemore. Other than Ocing that Z690M lacks other features (only 2 M2) vs that Sonic (3 M2). In looks the Sonic is miles more interesting with the streaks of blue and the hologram ring.