Percentage dont mean much without context. RT is playable even in most demanding of todays games (Indy)



Going 7800xt, OP will defo need a new higher watt PSU. More money spent for same perf. WTH!

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 19 2025, 03:26 PM

xx60 family is realistically now 1080P high/ultra GPU, it still makes your 9060xt looks worse.

I look at price/value. Theres clear performance (which 5060TI trumps over 9060xt) and then theres better features (5060TI over 7800xt). The 5060TI value sits somewhere in between these 2 AMD GPUs and its not a matter of whos winning here (I dont give a ratsass about you). Its what the buyer looks to the value of each GPU and evaluate which gives them more value per dollar. You can make it a price/performance fight but reality a buying decision is not as simple as that.

Of course you are free to go your favourite tech store and holler at all customers there buying 5060TIs and below....

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 19 2025, 07:42 PM

Not just me alone but even utube says so


Scroll to https://youtu.be/4QwsVHoLos8?t=854

As for PCIE bandwidth scaling, theres negligible difference
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-g...scaling/31.html

As someone who has 4080 and 9070xt, these lower end cards values obviously doesnt rhyme with you since your not the target market.

If you actually cared to watch b4 you pound the keeb, the GPUS featured are the ones OP listed + B580.

Whenever I can I am running RT on my 3060Ti, so far been doing > 100 FPS 1080P High w/o DLSS, played thru Metro EE on RT, DOOM E on RT, COD MW2019 on RT. Too bad SM2 has no RT but still that game is gorgeous at 120FPS Ultra/High. I have no doubts 5060TI will perform better in RT than 2 my generations older GPU.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 20 2025, 06:44 PM

LOL whats the problem when that 5060TI was amongst the list of cards being considered? What to blame go blame OP budget is so wide margin. Its not like I am you telling him "go buy better GPUS even if you cant afford it, because these are better than your choices". Your just fighting in quicksand here.

Admittedly these are older games as I work thru my backlog, I might wanna try Clair Obscur to compare latest games looking at how gorgeous and how well optimised for AAA game unlike the many VRAM eating unfinished POS today.
The again, Metro EE and Doom E were frequently used for benchmarking until recently so I can still relate my gameplay with these tested results...

Strawman argument that AMD shills like to use, then they complains why the market reality is not follow their reality...
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-secur...-150444612.html

Mind you if want to argue pricing, BOTH here sux. Nvidia set their own suka hati price levels and AMD basically "follows Nvidia less $50" which isnt the pricing level that gamers want. Only ARC has reasonable prices when available

Of course used GPUS has better raster perf/dollar coz its used. But then RX 6000 series has worse features than 7000series which has worse features than 9000series (RT, crappier FSR gen, encoding, streaming, work apps use). So there will be other limitations handicapping older GPUS. So again it depends on ones usage for the GPU.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 21 2025, 03:13 PM

As I said, your not the majority target market but that doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Not sure whats your beef with RT tho...

Umm your beef is with the value of 5060TI but those articles you linked is telling that people are buying 5060TI 16GB over the 8GB models. Their still buying the 5060TI which your hating anyhows.
So not sure what your trying to say here, that the 50% who checks are still stupid for buying 5060TIs? Basically 100% are still stupid in your books?

RT has been getting better, the hit to lower end GPUS arent as bad as 2060 or even 2070 was. Nowadays some games allow to choose which RT effects to turn on so theres a lot more room to tweak when the GPU has enough 'horsepower'.

2060 was barely playable with RT even with lowest settings


5060 is quite comfortable in RT with some games


RT has evolved over the years.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 22 2025, 12:25 PM

Oh well, I wouldnt be calling them stupid just coz they cannot afford an xx80 class GPU.

I think anything above Intel 10series CPU should not have CPU overhead issue.

Crap mobo
Crap RAM
Crap SSD
Crap Cooler if your using inside a fishtank case
Somewhat crap PSU but can use if not looking to upgrade anything next time

As others said, for Rm5k is just to fit in a 9070xt but everything else will prolly throttle it

Follow Tristan reco but ditch the M-E mobo for the M-A version as your gonna need to unleash PL2 limit to play at 1440P with that baseline CPU.
That case dont really have the best cooling, so if can up budget a bit try to fill up the cooling fan spaces.

Mind you, high/max settings prolly too much if turn on all the bells & whistles depends on the game tho

For longevity can swap out that Intel stuff for AMD R5 7500F + MSI B650M Gaming Wifi PLUS then later on can upgrade to 9800X3d or 10800X3d

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 27 2025, 12:06 AM

For 1440P gaming at high/ultra maxed out I would target something like RM 6.5k ~7.5k.

AMD R5 7600X + MSI B650M Gaming Wifi PLUS then later on can upgrade to 9800X3d or 10800X3d
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 (bigger size to handle x3d CPU)
Acer Predator Pallas II 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit - 450 (Dotatech)
Kingston KC3000 / Adata S70 Blade 2TB (games are eating more space)
FSP Vita GM 850W - 514 (Just IT)
Target to get ATX case for better airflow https://www.lazada.com.my/products/invasion...4168130602.html

Option
Sapphire RX 9070 XT 16GB Pulse - 3282 (Dotatech)

5070TI 16GB DDR7 - 4200 (to max out everything inc RT)

If too cheap for sure they have removed the sale and I betcha they have canceled those who bought with the reason "out of stock" even if none were sent out. Happen to me few times before (with another seller).

We can only give suggestion, the rest of the legwork you have to do your own to find wheres best prices, timing for best deals (11.11), and having options if what was reco is not available.

You can also find sifus here like Tristan or Myway that builds PC if you dont want that hassle.

I would suggest buy something big from them; GPU or CPU+RAM+mobo, give them commission a bit lah rather than just doing assembly.

Maybe this deal is really genuine discount? Hope lucky ones who got in their hands can share their buys as myself too often gets burned by such 'good offers' when later on the sales was canceled.

Hmm... ALLIT clearing stock or suddenly Green & Red GPU prices are coming down to MSRP & lower?

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 30 2025, 12:19 PM

With the news of Super series coming by Xmas this year, many distros still holding onto existing stocks will want to get rid ASAP since 50series have all been quite disappointing.

Ironically the card on topic, 5070TI is seriously wellspecced except for its pricing. But even in USA its real selling price is somewhere in $850-900 so for rm3600 is a steal and small win for Asean market considering our typical MSRP had always been much higher than USA.

Have anybody tried the new Thermalright Royal Knight 120 cooler with full RAM offset clearance?