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post Feb 22 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 22 2017, 10:45 AM)
I see.. Didn't try it myself either as current setup works fine. Besides, I'd rather opt for the full experience and get the Shield 2. As soon as I can convince myself to get a decent 4K TV.  brows.gif
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Yup. Set up to do just what I need...

Getting old and impatient to tinker anymore...last time buy baby plants to grow...now buy big pots with big flowers...instant gratification laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2017, 10:35 AM)
android or androidtv, they are owned by google.

looking like the champion of all OS for phones, tablets, boxes, smart tv's.

can expect it to get into pc's, watches, cars, microwave ovens in the next few years.

so, buy google stock... only usd830 per share. laugh.gif
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Android definitely is the champion.. Or rather Unix is.. IMO, IOS is solid and all but it's very hard for me (right now) to imagine it or any other mobile-oriented OS ever overtaking Android. Well, as long as Alphabet (Google) doesn't mess up in the future and keep pushing it's limits.

$830 per share.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 22 2017, 10:52 AM)
Yup. Set up to do just what I need...

Getting old and impatient to tinker anymore...last time buy baby plants to grow...now buy big pots with big flowers...instant gratification laugh.gif
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IKR.. Nice analogy right there.. I'll take big and full potted plants today, but refuse to acknowledge growing old.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 22 2017, 11:19 AM)
Android definitely is the champion.. Or rather Unix is.. IMO, IOS is solid and all but it's very hard for me (right now) to imagine it or any other mobile-oriented OS ever overtaking Android. Well, as long as Alphabet (Google) doesn't mess up in the future and keep pushing it's limits.

$830 per share..  sweat.gif
IKR.. Nice analogy right there.. I'll take big and full potted plants today, but refuse to acknowledge growing old.. laugh.gif
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Growing old is mandatory... Growing up is optional biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 12:58 PM

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I was reading up on SoC...apparently the ones used in Q10/Q5 Pro has.... Dolby Vision!!!

Maybe that's why, coupled with their Imprex engine, PQ is better than the rest....
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post Feb 22 2017, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 22 2017, 11:19 AM)
Android definitely is the champion.. Or rather Unix is.. IMO, IOS is solid and all but it's very hard for me (right now) to imagine it or any other mobile-oriented OS ever overtaking Android. Well, as long as Alphabet (Google) doesn't mess up in the future and keep pushing it's limits.
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apple is big enough to go its own IOS for a long time.

microsoft with windows10 is starting to look like android!

i have used all 3 major OS, now going android mostly.

my last count, i have a dozen android devices vs 2 ios and 2 windows. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Feb 22 2017, 02:06 PM
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post Feb 22 2017, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 22 2017, 12:58 PM)
I was reading up on SoC...apparently the ones used in Q10/Q5 Pro has.... Dolby Vision!!!

Maybe that's why, coupled with their Imprex engine, PQ is better than the rest....
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It definitely helps and HiMedia have shipped a decent firmware to tap into that. AFAIK, the Hisilicon Hi3798C V200 is the first global UHD chipset that supports Dolby Vision with HDR technology. The future will be quite interesting.. smile.gif

QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2017, 01:21 PM)
apple is big enough to go its own IOS for a long time.

microsoft with windows10 is starting to look like android!

i have used all 3 major OS, not going android mostly.

my last count, i have a dozen android devices vs 2 ios and 2 windows. tongue.gif
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Yeah, I agree.. Android for productivity, still has a long way before it can threaten OS X, much less Windows.. and frankly, I don't think it can. Anyway, Nokia happened.. so who knows.. smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:55 PM

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10bit video files = HDR movies?
If displayed on non HDR TV will it look worse than non 10bit files or would it look just the same?
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post Feb 22 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 22 2017, 02:55 PM)
10bit video files = HDR movies?
If displayed on non HDR TV will it look worse than non 10bit files or would it look just the same?
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post Feb 22 2017, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 22 2017, 10:12 AM)
Just to share... Remote access, control & mirror of your box...

Screen shots from my phone...works over 4G. Very simple to set up biggrin.gif

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Using Teamviewer's apps.
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means can teamviewer and see what the box is actually showing on-screen?
like teamviewing a computer?
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post Feb 22 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 22 2017, 04:24 PM)
means can teamviewer and see what the box is actually showing on-screen?
like teamviewing a computer?
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Yes. Teamviewer host for box, Teamviewer remote control for phone, all on play store. Use phone touch screen to control the box.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 22 2017, 02:55 PM)
10bit video files = HDR movies?
If displayed on non HDR TV will it look worse than non 10bit files or would it look just the same?
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No.... These are two completely different things. 10bit (aka Deep Color) is referring to color depth, the amount of distinct colors that can be displayed on screen. HDR refers to dynamic range: the ability to display or capture details in the darkest and lightest part of an image simultaneously. A really good TV should have both Deep Color and HDR.

RON97 + RON97 engine = rclxm9.gif
RON97 + RON95 engine = unsure.gif

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 22 2017, 04:24 PM)
means can teamviewer and see what the box is actually showing on-screen?
like teamviewing a computer?
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Yes.. to some extent.
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Feb 22 2017, 02:55 PM)
10bit video files = HDR movies?
If displayed on non HDR TV will it look worse than non 10bit files or would it look just the same?
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10bit video... if yr player can handle say, 1080p hevc 10 bit, 1080p tv can display.


i think hdr video will not display on a non HDR tv even if the player can handle.


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post Feb 22 2017, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2017, 10:56 PM)
10bit video... if yr player can handle say, 1080p hevc 10 bit, 1080p tv can display.
hdr video will not display on a non HDR tv even if the player can handle.

just like a 4k video will not display on a non-4k tv.

no "downgrade".
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??? Pls check again...

A player that can take 4k 10bit file, will play to FHD 8 bit TV no problem...

4k will be shrunk, extra bits will be ignored.

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post Feb 23 2017, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 22 2017, 10:11 PM)
No.... These are two completely different things. 10bit (aka Deep Color) is referring to color depth, the amount of distinct colors that can be displayed on screen. HDR refers to dynamic range: the ability to display or capture details in the darkest and lightest part of an image simultaneously. A really good TV should have both Deep Color and HDR.

RON97 + RON97 engine =  rclxm9.gif
RON97 + RON95 engine =  unsure.gif
Yes.. to some extent.
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10 bit file...color info stored per chroma (in 4:2:2)
10 bit panel...color reproduction range per pixel
HDR...panel with blacker black, whiter white, adaptive contrast, etc



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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 22 2017, 11:47 PM)
A player that can take 4k 10bit file, will play to FHD 8 bit TV no problem...

4k will be shrunk, extra bits will be ignored.
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my bad... yeah, u r right. notworthy.gif

edited that post...
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post Feb 24 2017, 06:14 PM

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Some methods/apks to force Netflix to play in HQ...please read the comments too smile.gif

http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/11/28/how...ne-level-1-drm/
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post Feb 24 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 23 2017, 01:00 AM)
my bad... yeah, u r right. notworthy.gif

edited that post...
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No worries... I know what you meant to say...that is the benefits of any 4k/10bit/HDR file is lost if TV can't support it.

Sorry I was too direct...was late & tired.
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post Feb 24 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 24 2017, 06:14 PM)
Some methods/apks to force Netflix to play in HQ...please read the comments too smile.gif

http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/11/28/how...ne-level-1-drm/
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Samsung Tab S2 (tablet in post) is certified by Netflix to run full HD.. Also note the following..

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Although it might or might not breach Netflix TOS, please note that this has nothing to do with piracy at all, nor does it skip DRM, as it still requires both a Netflix HD subscription and a device supporting Widevine Level 1 DRM. Sadly that also means the trick will still not work on most cheap Android TV boxes that are limited to Level 3 security. It’s also quite possible Netflix eventually notices and changes the code to prevent this little hack. You can check Widevine DRM support with DRM Info app.

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post Feb 24 2017, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 24 2017, 07:47 PM)
Samsung Tab S2 (tablet in post) is certified by Netflix to run full HD.. Also note the following..
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...and further down in the comments...

"Im remodded that apk to force HD in non-certified device L3. Try it."

"Tq for coorperation. Yes, its clean…After i get the apk look into its. I think the apk is disable DRM Detection Level and only supported only Cert-Device L1 then im thinking how to force it to HD in level 3…Actually im re-modded the apk :-

1) To always return Detection Widevine L1 even the device is L3. Means no false (0)..always true (1)
2) To always detect Device is HD"

"new latest netflix modded apk by me normal app not leanback. This version is more clear. force to play on UltraHD http://199.175.53.21/netflixlatest.hdonly8.apk"

"Not tested on any device with L1 level..Actually modded special for L3 coz L1 still can using original apk at Playstore and can get HD or UHD depending on device, hdcp level and TV."

"Seem to work 1080p on my widevine l3 s912"

"Does anybody have an APK for an L1 Device?"

"Try that one: http://minix.com.hk/downfile/Netflix_HD.apk"


I have not tried it...no interest in Netflix...
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post Feb 24 2017, 09:05 PM

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Hello, anyone know any shops selling android box in ipoh?

Are 905x boxes still buggy? Is it better to get 905 box?
I was thinking of getting this one.

http://www.lazada.com.my/t95x-ott-iptv-and...x-15892185.html

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