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post Aug 26 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 26 2017, 06:08 PM)
This is for existing policy holder who are under the family plan doing the conversion. You should understand what was being asked before replying sarcastically though
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Yes they have the AIA family plan and the son had leukemia. Understood the question perfectly. You want the case?
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post Aug 26 2017, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 26 2017, 06:15 PM)
Sure, you may ping me the contact smile.gif
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Is it written in the policy contract that it is able to be converted once the child is 23 yo, irrespective of the medical condition?

Will PM you the contact when they are settled as the child is still undergoing blood transfusion at KL. The child is now 21 yo.

They did inquire of the conversion with their agent, an AIA Agency Manager (30 years in this business) and he says no. That is why if you say it is able to convert, I will want to pass them to you if you can show that it is written in the contract.

The family has so far spend ~RM300K, mostly from own savings, sold the grandma house.

Of course it is understood that the child is not able to take up a new policy before he hits 23 yo due to preexisting illness.
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post Aug 26 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(GunMetalX @ Aug 26 2017, 07:18 PM)
21 yo still covered under family plan right? Why have to sell house?
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The Cancer treatment and kidney dialysis have lifetime limit in their AIA plan. Once depleted, then not able to renew a new plan anymore. It is understood in all types of insurance with lifetime limit.
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post Aug 27 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sunny zombie @ Aug 27 2017, 08:32 AM)
Now is the repricing trend for PruHealth and Pru flexi Med?
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Ya, since beginning of 2017. Range from RM10~RM15/mth.
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post Sep 25 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(LetsJammisuri @ Sep 25 2017, 03:23 PM)
Hi all, need advice whether the underwriter will found out my medical record as a registered diabetes patient as I went to government  hospital  for my diabetes treatment this year...I plan to upgrade my prudential insurance medical limit due to now already have this sickness to protect future other sickness sufficient medical payment if incurred lump sum....my lifetime limit now is rm650k....want upgrade to rm1mil....which I will ask my agent to quote me a new premium fee and again should I tell my agent about my newfound diabetes condition....?

Another option I checked is now AIA    also have rm1mil  medical claim and rm200k  to next of kin  if died....which my plan now only is rm50k...and AIA  can offer the same premium I'm paying now to prudential....so I felt AIA  is more benefiting but again Read a lot negative  feedback on many rejected medical claims  and irresponsible  AIA  agent overrated insurance company....The plan is good  but future agent service or claim is difficult......and again if I am required  to do medical  test sure I'm positive diabetes....which  may cause either the prudential or AIA reject to cover me....

Please advice my dilemma...Thanks. ..
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For the Medical card upgrade or even getting a new one is not possible if it is confirmed as diabetes. Whatever the agent promises or they will disappear when the claims get rejected for diabetes related claims.

The failure to disclose material fact that may impact how the policy is being underwritten may cause the policy to be null and void.

Whether the claims dept will find out is irrelevant. If they are served with a court order due to claims dispute, the medical records is as bright as daylight.

If you are still insisting on getting the upgrade (or buy new one) of the medical card, there is no one to blame other than yourself if the claim is rejected, paying for something that won't work, while the agent still enjoy his/her commission.

Sorry the above may sound harsh, but it is to warn you against unscrupulous agents just after commission and don't do their job properly. When people are not able to claim, they lose trust in insurance.

The only plan that you could try if diabetes is PruCancer plan (that only pays if cancer), even that, a full disclosure of health is required.
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post Sep 25 2017, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(LetsJammisuri @ Sep 25 2017, 05:24 PM)
Okay meaning I just have to maintain my current Insurance? I have bought it years ago before I discovered  I have diabetes now...I am not taking any medication...The doctor just ask me to change to a healthier lifestyle  and lose weight to healthy range to control further damage....

Huh I'm glad at least I have a insurance  than none though  I can't upgrade  the coverage  anymore...

So I no need waste time survey new plan or upgrade already.....just be happy with my current coverage...

Thanks all for your reply....
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post Oct 3 2017, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Sep 29 2017, 11:34 AM)
I also searched through the term life insurance and realize that besides suicide, they don't cover for some of the sports activities as well like bungee jumping etc. Wondering how about accident happens during hiking

how about those IL product from prudential which bundled with life/TPD/36CI, is it the same clause?
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I am uncertain of other products, but Prudential term life do cover suicide (after 1 year). However, do note that the medical card does not cover if the suicide attempt fails.

This is why /K standard for suicide must be at least 14 floor and above! laugh.gif rclxms.gif (joke)

Other dangerous sports of course, it is understood not covered as it will be unfair to the general public that don't do the dangerous sports.

If you any dangerous sports as a hobby, it needs to be declared before coverage can be granted. FYI normal hiking (eg, Penang hill) is not considered dangerous sports.

Unless you do rock climbing and 'hike' MOUNT KINABABLU/EVEREST!
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post Oct 3 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Oct 3 2017, 09:04 AM)
Any prudential agent care to answer my question ?

1) I went to cancel 1 of my policy yesterday and was told that my credit card link to that policy only will be able to cancel after 14 days of telling them. So, today i got charge for the policy that I cancelled yesterday. I dont think bank is going to stop the charges so means my money gone liao. Is it better to do online banking rather than credit card ? Since I pay only when I need to rather than let them charge blindly to my card ?

2) Is there any different between monthly charges and yearly ? Heard someone say monthly charges has higher total amount compare to yearly.

3) My agent said can upgrade my medical plan from 75 year to 80 year and yearly no limit on claiming up till 1million but increase my premium by rm 100 per month.. Such a low benefit charging so high. My gf medical card from AIA offer almost the same benefit but even cover up till 99 years old and only cost rm 200 per month. Why prudential benefit is lesser but cost more ?
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1.The request for credit card deduction is done every Friday, and in your case it was requested last week Friday and the transaction only reflected after 1 day.

You may check with the office whether the amount paid on Friday is in the suspend account. If yes, then you may request for a refund.

There is up to individual preference when it comes to payment. If you prefer to do online transfer you may do so. You can even call and pay thru phone.

2. It depends on whether your policy is an ILP or traditional type of policy. Only traditional type has a discount if pay yearly, half yearly or quarterly

3. No comment. Not in the business of bashing other products.

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post Oct 3 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Oct 3 2017, 11:59 AM)
Actually I went to branch to cancel yesterday 2/10. The staff told me they will charge the credit card first week of the month. But my credit card deducted on 3/10 which after I went to the branch. So you think it is still possible to get a full refund on month of October ?
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No, the credit card request will be issued every Friday every week without fail unless there is a problem with the card or debit card.

If this week deduction is unsuccessful, it will retry the next week.

The surrender is not an immediate (otherwise the counter would have given you the check) as it needs to be process by the accounts dept for the payment.

It is best that you check with the counter that you had surrendered the policy whether it goes into the suspend account.

You may also call your servicing agent as your agent has access to your policy details.
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post Oct 3 2017, 12:39 PM

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This post has been edited by roystevenung: Oct 3 2017, 12:39 PM
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post Oct 3 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Oct 3 2017, 07:53 PM)
Roy, how about prudential medical linked card with life etc? It's same with prudential term life?

So Nepal considered as dangerous too? Lol..
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Are you asking for the medical card or life? As mentioned the medical card will not cover self inflicted injuries (irrespective of whether it is attached in the ILP or Term Life).

Visit Nepal touristy spot is ok, unless you plan to scale up Mount Everest
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post Oct 11 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(StringMalao @ Oct 11 2017, 04:06 PM)
buy house, what insurance to buy to protect mortgage?
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post Oct 20 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Oct 20 2017, 10:41 PM)
Cant i directly work with customer service, this agent is not responding to my calls and messages and  I have no idea who is the upline.
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Inquiry on the upgrade at the counter or better still ask the counter guys to recommend a good agent. You may request to change agent.

This post has been edited by roystevenung: Oct 20 2017, 11:51 PM
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post Oct 21 2017, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Oct 21 2017, 10:33 PM)
What's up with MAA Takaful? sudah bangkrap?
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QUOTE(smallyfry @ Oct 21 2017, 10:22 PM)
I have two different statements from a few insurance agents about TPD and medical card.
Some agents ask me to get two policies:
Policy (1) with very high death/TPD payment
Policy (2) with very low death/TPD payment but with high medical coverage
The reason is, if i claimed TPD, I claim from Policy (1) so that my medical coverage will not be terminated. Policy (2) will run as normal with payor waiver until the day i die.

Some agents told me it doesn't matter. One policy is enough, eventhough if I claim TPD, my medical coverage will not be terminated with the payor waiver.
So, I am confused, which is correct.
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The Policy 1 pays upon Death/TPD, and it does not affect whether your medical coverage will or will not be terminated.

The Policy 1 pays to you (or your named beneficiary upon death) so that you can have money to sustain your lifestyle in the event of a TPD. If you are TPD, and unable to work, who is going to pay for the bills, food, clothing, daily expenses?

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eventhough if I claim TPD, my medical coverage will not be terminated with the payor waiver. ...
Policy (2) will run as normal with payor waiver until the day i die.


The statement above is very misleading especially when it comes to waiver of premiums.

In the event of a waiver claim, the premium is waived, but the insurance charges for the medical card will keep increase as you grow older, therefore if there is not sufficient cash value in the policy to cover for the higher insurance charges, even if you are TPD, the policy will need to be 'top up' or risk having the policy to lapse.
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QUOTE(I.A.S @ Nov 1 2017, 11:53 AM)
Continue from this thread that i created :

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4444796&hl=
I'd been approached by insurance agent a few times before, I always spent time, but because my interest is lesser, I end up didn't understand much(maybe I didn't pay close attention)

Fast forward to today, few of my colleagues are talking about insurance(medical card i guess) since their premium increase because of increment in medical cost. It made me thinks that I need to protect myself also at least for minimal medical treatment. So I'm thinking to get a standalone medical card. But the problem is I don't know anything about insurance and medical card.

I wonder what most medical card usually covers? Does normal fever, flu, cough checking at clinics/hospital are covered by medical card?Different insurance company have different panel hospital?

Here is a little bit info about me, that might help you guys suggest what I can consider. I'm a male, 26 y/o, working professional since 2012, 173cm, 70kg, used to be active in sport but now lesser, I stop smoking 6 months ago, and so far I don't have any particular medical issue.
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Correction on the bolded part. One gets medical insurance to cover huge medical bills.

Small bills below few hundred you need not have to worry about it.
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Nov 11 2017, 05:27 PM)
For Prudential Hospital Income rider.... the cash paid for hospital admittance, does it reduce the annual/lifetime limit?
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QUOTE(MONICA88 @ Nov 24 2017, 06:47 AM)
dear all expert,URGENT

CAN I KNOW WHICH INSURANCE COMPANY AT MALAYSIA COVER IMMUNOTHERAPHY THERAPY FOR CANCER PATIENT.

TQ
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Hi Monica for Prudential the client may ask the Doctor to proceed with the request for Guarantee Letter stating the Immunotherapy as a treatment.

Its better by GL (instead of pay and claim) so that the claims dept can check the policyholder type of medical card to see whether it is covered.


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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Nov 29 2017, 09:19 PM)
Any specific Prudential plans that caters to women's illnesses and pregnancy?
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Prulady & Infant Care
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QUOTE(chichichi @ Nov 30 2017, 09:54 AM)
Hello insurance sifus,

Asking for a friend, she just recently found out she is under insured coz her property only cover MRTA for 5 years and expiring next year.

Balance loan: 500k
MRTA expiry 2018
Existing Life insurance  TPD 110K

Should I suggest her to get MLTA or increase her insurance TPD coverage?
Her concern if anything happens to her, wants the mortgage debt fully settled.

Thanks for suggestion.
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Buy MLTA for RM500K, and it can also be used in future if she decided to buy another property.

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