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post Jun 5 2017, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2017, 02:27 AM)
Can anyone further explain the benefits for CI?

From what I understand, CI provides lump sum payment for the disease. Will it be per CI, or so long as 1 CI has been paid, the coverage for other CI is no more?
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For the normal 36 CI, then it is a lump sum payment for the 1st CI claimed. The 36 CI rider will be cancelled.

If you are worried, you may add on other riders such as:-

- Multiple Crisis Protector - pays up to 3 times of the 36 CI (based on grouping of the CI)
- Critical Crisis Income which pays an annual amount until age 70 upon diagnosis of the 36 CI
- Payor - Waives the policy premium if diagnosed with any of the 36 CI


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post Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:05 PM)
Hi lifebalance  roystevenung,

I've a question about home insurance. My mom's the house owner but home insurance policy is in my name. Will this be an issue if anything happens and there's a need to claim?

Many thanks in advance.
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Take very good care of your mum then cos she may choose to give the house to someone else... blush.gif

But seriously if you are the one paying for it then ofc the insurance must be on your life (and nominate to your mum or absolute assignment to the bank) and not your mum.

If God happens to love you more, then the insurance will be paid to either your mum or the bank to settle the loan.



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post Jun 6 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM)
Thank you so much for the speedy reply.

This is stated in the policy -

Risk No. :  0001 Houseowner
Business :  Private Dwelling
Situation: (house add stated)
Construction: Class 1A

Any idea what that means? If policy holder is not houseowner, would that deemed the policy null and void?
Thanks for the reply but it's a home insurance for the house not on my life. If anything happens to the house, would it be an issue to make a claim since I'm not the houseowner?
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So its referring to Fire Insurance, my bad.

The insured should be your mum as you do not have insurable interest on the property.

The insurable interest may exist when the property is legally transferred to your name or you are being appointed the role of a trustee upon the death of the insured.
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post Jun 13 2017, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(michaelwell @ Jun 13 2017, 02:47 PM)
Hi all insurance agents/ underwriter, if diagnosed with benign brain tumor, would it still possible to purchase medical insurance? If not, what insurance can be bought with this medical history? Life? PA? Thanks. Please PM if there's any plan that is suitable for this case.
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I guess i'll have to be the "bad agent" here to tell you the truth.

If diagnosed and not removed then sorry, no insurer will want to take the risk. Even Life or CI will be decline.

Even after removed, there will be a waiting period of 5 years (the longer the better) before any coverage can be considered.

Sounds harsh, but that is the truth. Sorry.


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post Jun 25 2017, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(littlerainbow2016 @ Jun 24 2017, 01:12 PM)
My spouse and I are contemplating on whether or not we should purchase medical insurance for our 2.5 year old at this point in time.

Currently, our child is covered by our employer's insurance as part of our staff benefit. So, in any case there is a need for hospitalization, it will be fully covered. For spouse's employer, there is an annual limit, for my employer, there is no limit.

My spouse and I have different views on the objective of getting medical insurance

i) My view
- In case something happens to either myself / my spouse or both of us, the appointed guardian for our child will not have to worry about the medical expenses if the need arises as a medical insurance is already in place.

2) Spouse's concern
- To lock down the premium price while he is still young and healthy. This is with the belief that the premium will increase with age.

- As a form of investment for the child's future

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3) Should we purchase now or wait until our child is >5 years old as was informed that the premium for children below 5 is higher due to the higher risk?

4) Our child is only 2.5 years old now. If lockdown now, probably 10-20 years down the road, the situation is going to be very different and what are the chances that the existing plan would be able to meet the needs in the future?

Figuring out how to strike a balance for our expenses mainly because of limited budget and don't want to over-insure (as currently fully covered by employer so won't be using personal insurance as long as we're alive and working)
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1) You may include a single or double parent payor and appoint a (third person) contingent assured to the child's policy. Touch wood, should the scenario where both parent's are not around, the policy premium payment will be waived and the contingent assured will be able to take over the policy until the child is 25 yo of age.

Once the child has attained 25, he/she will be able to take full control of the policy and decides if he/she wants to further continue or even upgrade the plan.

2) Yes, insurance is only available when we are healthy. One of the problems to get child policy is when the child gets older say 5-7 yo as many faced eating disorder causing over weight of which it may complicates getting medical insurance.

As for the investment for the child's future, it depends on whether do you include any savings to the policy or purely buying it for protection.

Knowing exactly how much you need for the child's education (including the inflation factor, spoken to a few colleges and it is most safe is to foresee an 7% inflation per year) when he/she hits 17/18 yo will definitely helps in planning.

Having said that, you don't have to put in everything into the insurance policy and diversify your investment portfolio, example property/ies.

As you had mentioned, the insurance policy is for just in case both parents are not around to care for the child, which is the worst case scenario.

3. For your info, a child's plan with medical (and no fancy riders) may cost in the range of RM150~RM180/mth. You may also add in small deductible (say RM300) to lower the premium. It is not always your child needs to be hospitalized and even if the child needs hospitalization, as you had mentioned will be using the employer's medical insurance.

If that premium amount is over your budget, then you may have to put the insurance plan aside, seriously.

4. Again this boils down to your budget. You may include riders that increases the medical limit once every year or two automatically if there is no claims, or you may choose to increase it along the way.

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post Jun 25 2017, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jun 25 2017, 12:51 PM)
Hi Roy,

Just would like to clarify, my daughters are having PRU ILP + Med policies, it will be expiring at their age 25 (expiring date stated in the policies), can the policies "continue" or "upgrade" by my daughters when their age at 25? I was told to buy a new policy and drop the old one.

Btw, would also like to confirm...getting new proposal / underwriting a new policy, we need to pay the premium in full,  before proceed the underwriting? I remember I was not pay anything until I accept the offer from insurance company previously.

Thanks.
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Older child education plans are only up to age 25, even though its ILP. If you want to upgrade it, then it has to be on a new policy up to age 100. You can request the agent to do a transfer of medical card to the new policy so that the waiting period is not imposed on the new medical card.

If there are health complications or uncertainties of whether the case will be accepted by UW, then you may submit the case first without 1st month premium payment. Agents like to collect the payment first cause they don't have to do double job of visiting you again just to collect the premium. You may tell your agent that you can now "Pay Thru Phone" if the case is accepted (new payment feature by Pru) blush.gif

If you pay first and later the new case is not approved or you do not accept the conditional approval letter, you'll be reimbursed back of the said premium.
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post Jun 25 2017, 03:52 PM

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post Jun 30 2017, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 29 2017, 10:52 PM)
To confirm- the perks benefit in having CI coverage is that once the policyholder is hit with 1 of the CIs covered, the policyholder is paid in full (of the sum assured of the CI coverage), whilst not impacting on the policyholder's annual limit/lifetime limit.

Is my understanding correct?
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QUOTE(Jason2 @ Jul 1 2017, 04:17 PM)
Thanks for the reply lifebalance. Guess it is good that I double checked here -  I was told by the agent that the usual annual limit can be used for outpatient cancer treatment upon depletion of this limit 😰 thanks!
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post Jul 7 2017, 05:29 PM

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The Rule of thumb is to only comment products that you carry which you are selling as we do not know the latest offerings by other companies.

Just a misunderstanding, so chill
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post Jul 11 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jul 11 2017, 02:12 PM)
Thanks for sharing! I think no a bad ideal to top-up with another deductible med card from the same insurance company.

As for me, my family has PRUhealth med card + ILP + some riders (med card with 50k annual limit and 520k life limit), I did consider to get the PRUvalue med card with 20k deductible as a top-up for the PRUhealth med card, but I find by paying two med cards cost is quite high for me (especially, I need to pay for 4 family members and Prudential's premium seems higher than other insurance company - maybe my PRU agent likes to bundle a lot of riders  hmm.gif  ). Also consider other General Insurance companies' standalone med card plan... At the end, I opted the GE's Great Medic Xtra Great Extender med card + ILP with minimum bare lift coverage.
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If the second medical card is from a different insurer, then the client will need to pay the variance not covered by the 1st medical card and using that original receipt+tax invoice, medical report, discharge summary, letter of settlement then file a claim with the second insurer
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Jul 22 2017, 02:12 PM)
Hi sifu, i'm new about inaurance...wanted to buy but always give self excuse. I'm 32 now.

Was approached by an agent from AmMetLife.

He offered a plan named AmMetLife LifeStyle.

Up to 80y/o
$150/months = $1800 a year
got covered $1mil medical card
36 diseases/Critical Illness $90k
And the amount make monthly entitled averagely 6% p.a. return.
At the end, all amount made +6%p.a. can be withdrawn.

I have no insurance thinking that this might be good and affordable as saving for future old time.

Anyone have adverse feedback on this plan, pls share your thought. Appreciate
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Jul 22 2017, 02:56 PM)
Thanks all.
The person just walk in and talk about it.
I have not much details besides of the mentioned.
I am not sure if 90k sufficient as have little knowledge on this.
But 150 amonth is affordable and comfortable to my capasity, but whether the value of the plan is worth, i guess JianSheng have given a though.
Thanks for all advice.
I have 2 sheets  a booklet given by him. Enclosed the 2 sheet for further advice. Ignore the details of insured person as that is a sample the person used to explain and i request to keep for study.
Appreciate a lot.
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Do insist on getting the actual Full Sales Quote in PDF format for your own reference.

You're 32 and what you given to us is for a 16 yo girl and my neck hurts!
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Jul 26 2017, 11:47 PM)
Hi I hope this is the right place to post.

I am a licensed private pilot flying small planes as a hobby as a means of irregular transport.  I am self employed with own business.  Each year I fly maybe 10 hours to 20 hours tops. 

I am looking for a Personal Accident insurance to cover accidental death and TPD as a result of private flying.  I have asked around and so far no luck.

Can any insurance consultants make a proposal to my insurance requirement.  Tq.
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Will have a chat with the Underwriting and get back to you soon.
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Jul 27 2017, 12:19 AM)
Tq.  For info, my license issued since Jan 2015 and hv been renewed annually.  Last medical was early this year.  All clear.

Safety record 100%.
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Jul 27 2017, 09:08 AM)
For info the insurer need not cover for my non flying time . 

It is sufficient if I am covered during flying time, i.e. from engine startup to engine shutdown.

Would be pleased if anyone can quote based on per RM100K basis.

If your price/cover is reasonable and attractive I can introduce to my fellow flying clubmembers, which has 300+ members.
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Yes you are absolutely spot on as generally PA (view from the General Insurance POV) does not need to declare the hobby and even without declaration of the hobby, it is understood that private flying it is explicitly excluded.

If you are able to get substantial members from that club to sign up or rather make it a mandatory for them to get protected, then it may be possible to arrange a group insurance policy.

There is also an option for high risk group cover, if there is numbers.

If the numbers is small, then the insurer may not want to go thru the hassle of drafting the policy for just a handful of individuals.

You may discuss with the club members on this.

With regards to the sum insured, do propose a higher sum insured, as RM100k can barely last 2'years .


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QUOTE(soulmad @ Aug 10 2017, 10:00 PM)
any agent can clear my question on medical
1. standalone medical card that bought 5 year ago
which come with 100k lifetime limit
premium is more cheaper than current medical card.

how about in future? will the gap increase where year 2017 medical card will keep only increase while the old card increase is slower?

what ur advice to keep the old card or to buy another current card?
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1. Please reconfirm it is Rm100k Lifetime Limit?

2. How much is the annual limit?

3. Until what age does the standalone medical card covers? Age 70, age 80?

These are also important info before looking at what can be offered
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Aug 16 2017, 12:32 AM)
Can anyone shed some light why during admission with AIA Regular Med Plan 250 card, the patient still need to submit a 30k deposit in cash to the hospital before admission? Panel hospital and doctor. Any reason for this?
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Maybe you can please describe further the scenario?

1. The type of admission, eg accidental or illness?

2. Time of admission (during office hour or off working hours or during Public Holiday?)

3. After the next working day, was the client being refunded of the deposit after the GL is approved?

4. How long has the medical card been in force?
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QUOTE(knight @ Aug 17 2017, 07:20 PM)
Guys Guys Guys!! I need your help.

I'm currently service two insurance under Investment link type.

I noticed that the investment fund which is high risk doesn't seems to be earning well. Averagely it's getting only nearly 4% annually for 5years.

Now my question is, Is it possible for me to take out this investment so that I can have my own decision to invest in which fund or for any other usage?

what is the down side? Anyone did that before?
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You are entitled to 4 free switch a year
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QUOTE(LetsJammisuri @ Aug 23 2017, 01:46 PM)
Anyone can advice or recommend whether I should stay with my current life-investment link insurance policy (Prudential rm200/mth) or switch to medical coverage only (premium less than life)? I'm single and 25. Just think with my low salary felt burdened to commit to this monthly.....

I know life coverage include allowance if become vegetable, rm30k for next of kind if passed away, investment profit/loss plus medical coverage 36 serious illness rm600k claimable....

Was thinking to switch to medical coverage will do as I think thatshe my priority but many advice life insurance is better....

I know it increases follow your age each year....If now I give up life insurance and just buy medical card....which is better? AIA , great eastern....or maintain prudential....

Or I should just suck it up and pay....my parents said everyone should have life insurance and in future if buy will be extremely expensive when get older like 30 or 40.....

Any huge difference in premium payment if I change now.....btw I have diabetes type 2....does it make it difficult in future if I wan to buy life insurance....

Pls help....dunno what to do....😟
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Understood your predicament, unfortunately if you were to cancel or reduce the insurance, there will be complications to get it back again.

The medical card will be declined for any new application or upgrading.
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Even cancer no exclusion? Sure? Ok where do I sign up my friend's son who has leukemia?

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