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watabakiu
post Jun 5 2017, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 26 2017, 05:55 PM)
You may refer to the brochure for AIA Medical Card

https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/medi...medbooster.html

As a summary in a picture for you

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Some of the other benefits you can enjoy as a card holder will be as followed.

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is this a standalone medical card, or a rider for an ILP?
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post Jun 5 2017, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2017, 12:08 AM)
is this a standalone medical card, or a rider for an ILP?
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It is available as Standalone or ILP.
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post Jun 5 2017, 02:27 AM

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Can anyone further explain the benefits for CI?

From what I understand, CI provides lump sum payment for the disease. Will it be per CI, or so long as 1 CI has been paid, the coverage for other CI is no more?
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post Jun 5 2017, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jun 4 2017, 11:06 PM)
Thanks lifebalance.

The pricing for GE & AIA are quite similar, somehow I think the Prudential pricing is much higher (Prudential don't have standalone med plan).

I have been comparing the med insurance for almost one month plus...still no conclusion yet  hmm.gif

Need to plan all over again, because paying too many policies  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
1) GE whole life (own policy) - 1st policy, after start working
2) GE whole life with some hospital/room rider (own policy) - colleague selling, give support
3) GE investment link (own policy) - bought this to pay the outstanding housing loan (in case I 'tapau')
4) Allianz PA (own policy) - cheap with huge coverage
5) Prudential 10 years term with CI/TPD (own policy) - cannot remember why buying this one...I think I 'kiasi' during that time
6) Prudential investment link with PruHealth Med (own policy) - need to get medical card insurance
7) MAA (Zurich) whole life (wife policy) - colleague selling, give support
8) GE whole life with some hospital/room rider (wife policy) - colleague selling, give support
9) Prudential investment link with PruHealth Med (wife policy) - need to get medical card insurance for family member
10) GE education endowment (daughter policy) - old schoolmate selling, give support
11) Prudential investment link with PruHealth Med (daughter policy) - need to get medical card insurance for family member
12) Prudential investment link with PruHealth Med (younger daughter policy) - need to get medical card insurance for family member
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Looks like it's time for you to sit down to review and consolidate your insurance policies.

As for your query for your medical card, you can refer to this website: http://www.howtofinancemoney.com/2016/03/b...d-malaysia.html

Best,
Jiansheng
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post Jun 5 2017, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2017, 02:27 AM)
Can anyone further explain the benefits for CI?

From what I understand, CI provides lump sum payment for the disease. Will it be per CI, or so long as 1 CI has been paid, the coverage for other CI is no more?
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For the normal 36 CI, then it is a lump sum payment for the 1st CI claimed. The 36 CI rider will be cancelled.

If you are worried, you may add on other riders such as:-

- Multiple Crisis Protector - pays up to 3 times of the 36 CI (based on grouping of the CI)
- Critical Crisis Income which pays an annual amount until age 70 upon diagnosis of the 36 CI
- Payor - Waives the policy premium if diagnosed with any of the 36 CI


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post Jun 5 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2017, 02:27 AM)
Can anyone further explain the benefits for CI?

From what I understand, CI provides lump sum payment for the disease. Will it be per CI, or so long as 1 CI has been paid, the coverage for other CI is no more?
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Hmm... actually it varies depending on what you have bought.

The more 'traditional' and 'older' ones just pay the amount when kena 1 CI. Once the amount has been paid in full, the coverage cease.

The more 'canggih' ones may pay more than once. Example: Got Disease A, get xx%. Later get Disease B, get yy%. Then coverage cease.

Hope this clarifies.
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 5 2017, 02:27 AM)
Can anyone further explain the benefits for CI?

From what I understand, CI provides lump sum payment for the disease. Will it be per CI, or so long as 1 CI has been paid, the coverage for other CI is no more?
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There are few different CI coverage available

- Multi Critical Illness
# Pays out on multiple critical illness up to 3 times
https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/crit...iticalcare.html

- Early Critical Illness
# Pays out on early and late stage critical illness based on severity of the Critical Illness
https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/crit...iticalcare.html

- Normal Critical Illness
# Pays out on late stage critical illness only
https://www.aia.com.my/en/our-products/crit...iticalcare.html

CI benefit acts as a form of income replacement in the event you're down with Critical Illness
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post Jun 5 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jun 4 2017, 11:06 PM)
Thanks lifebalance.

The pricing for GE & AIA are quite similar, somehow I think the Prudential pricing is much higher (Prudential don't have standalone med plan).

I have been comparing the med insurance for almost one month plus...still no conclusion yet  hmm.gif

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Hi clickNsnap, btw how many med insurance have you compare? actually most med plans from insurance are almost very similar. any concerns you have so far?

QUOTE(clickNsnap @ Jun 4 2017, 11:33 PM)
Noted, paying those premiums over the past 10-20 years were quite a big sum... still need to pay for another 20-30 years  rclxub.gif  , really need to sit down and discuss with a financial planner icon_question.gif
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why not ask your current insurance advisor to help? laugh.gif
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Hi, would like to seek advise from sifu here.
Etiqa Triple Lifestyle Protector- is this good? pay around RM 5500 annually
Any pro and cons?

http://www.etiqa.com.my/en/triple-lifestyle-protector

Appreciate for the reply.
TQ.
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post Jun 5 2017, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Jun 5 2017, 05:02 PM)
Hi, would like to seek advise from sifu here.
Etiqa Triple Lifestyle Protector- is this good? pay around RM 5500 annually
Any pro and cons?

http://www.etiqa.com.my/en/triple-lifestyle-protector

Appreciate for the reply.
TQ.
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As usual my reply would be

Everyone's financial is different, whether it's good or not, pro or con really depends on what's the purpose you're buying it for, what financial gap are you trying to fill.

Instead, you should get a life planner to analyse your need and propose you the plan from there on.
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Hi lifebalance roystevenung,

I've a question about home insurance. My mom's the house owner but home insurance policy is in my name. Will this be an issue if anything happens and there's a need to claim?

Many thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:05 PM)
Hi lifebalance  roystevenung,

I've a question about home insurance. My mom's the house owner but home insurance policy is in my name. Will this be an issue if anything happens and there's a need to claim?

Many thanks in advance.
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No issue since there is an insurable interest, correct me if I'm wrong though, not that well versed with General Insurance.
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post Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:05 PM)
Hi lifebalance  roystevenung,

I've a question about home insurance. My mom's the house owner but home insurance policy is in my name. Will this be an issue if anything happens and there's a need to claim?

Many thanks in advance.
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Take very good care of your mum then cos she may choose to give the house to someone else... blush.gif

But seriously if you are the one paying for it then ofc the insurance must be on your life (and nominate to your mum or absolute assignment to the bank) and not your mum.

If God happens to love you more, then the insurance will be paid to either your mum or the bank to settle the loan.



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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 5 2017, 07:15 PM)
No issue since there is an insurable interest, correct me if I'm wrong though, not that well versed with General Insurance.
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Thank you so much for the speedy reply.

This is stated in the policy -

Risk No. : 0001 Houseowner
Business : Private Dwelling
Situation: (house add stated)
Construction: Class 1A

Any idea what that means? If policy holder is not houseowner, would that deemed the policy null and void?


QUOTE(roystevenung @ Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM)
Take very good care of your mum then cos she may choose to give the house to someone else... blush.gif

But seriously if you are the one paying for it then ofc the insurance must be on your life (and nominate to your mum or absolute assignment to the bank) and not your mum.

If God happens to love you more, then the insurance will be paid to either your mum or the bank to settle the loan.
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Thanks for the reply but it's a home insurance for the house not on my life. If anything happens to the house, would it be an issue to make a claim since I'm not the houseowner?

This post has been edited by starry: Jun 5 2017, 07:29 PM
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Sorry double post - deleted.

This post has been edited by starry: Jun 5 2017, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM)
Thank you so much for the speedy reply.

This is stated in the policy -

Risk No. :  0001 Houseowner
Business :  Private Dwelling
Situation: (house add stated)
Construction: Class 1A

Any idea what that means? If policy holder is not houseowner, would that deemed the policy null and void?
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Normally if it's fire insurance, it should be under the houseowner name, but in this case, you will have to clarify with the insurance company you bought with, or read within the policy guideline on insurable interest.

Because it doesn't make sense that you don't own the house yet you buy the fire insurance for it which belongs to your mom.

Same example would be

A landlord rent out his unit to a tenant but the tenant buy the fire insurance for the property instead. But in this case it doesn't make sense because there is no insurable interest as the tenant don't owe the bank any money nor do they own the property itself. It is the landlord responsibility to insure it under his/her name.


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post Jun 5 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 5 2017, 07:30 PM)
Normally if it's fire insurance, it should be under the houseowner name, but in this case, you will have to clarify with the insurance company you bought with, or read within the policy guideline on insurable interest.

Because it doesn't make sense that you don't own the house yet you buy the fire insurance for it which belongs to your mom.

Same example would be

A landlord rent out his unit to a tenant but the tenant buy the fire insurance for the property instead. But in this case it is  make sense because there is no insurable interest as the tenant don't owe the bank any money nor do they own the property itself. It is the landlord responsibility to insure it under his/her name.
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It's AIA fire insurance and agent said can place the home insurance policy in my name since mom's a senior citizen.

Interest of insured: 1. Building
Insurance Clause - your building
on building excluding foundation and drains

Thank you for the helpful advice life balance roystevenung,
Agent has agreed to amend home insurance policy holder's name to mom's name.

This post has been edited by starry: Jun 5 2017, 09:56 PM
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Jun 5 2017, 05:02 PM)
Hi, would like to seek advise from sifu here.
Etiqa Triple Lifestyle Protector- is this good? pay around RM 5500 annually
Any pro and cons?

http://www.etiqa.com.my/en/triple-lifestyle-protector

Appreciate for the reply.
TQ.
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How old is the life assured? Cannot tell much of the pros and cons just based on the website and based on your yearly premium itself. Basically it covers the basic stuff. As long as it helps you financially when "stuff" happen, then its good for you.
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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:35 PM)
It's AIA fire insurance and agent said can place the home insurance policy in my name since mom's a senior citizen.

Interest of insured: 1. Building
Insurance Clause - your building
on building excluding foundation and drains

Thank you for the helpful advice life balance  roystevenung,
Agent has agreed to amend home insurance policy holder's name to mom's name.
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Ah I see you've resolve it. =) good
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post Jun 6 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Jun 5 2017, 07:24 PM)
Thank you so much for the speedy reply.

This is stated in the policy -

Risk No. :  0001 Houseowner
Business :  Private Dwelling
Situation: (house add stated)
Construction: Class 1A

Any idea what that means? If policy holder is not houseowner, would that deemed the policy null and void?
Thanks for the reply but it's a home insurance for the house not on my life. If anything happens to the house, would it be an issue to make a claim since I'm not the houseowner?
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So its referring to Fire Insurance, my bad.

The insured should be your mum as you do not have insurable interest on the property.

The insurable interest may exist when the property is legally transferred to your name or you are being appointed the role of a trustee upon the death of the insured.

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