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Ramjade
post Jul 20 2017, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 20 2017, 08:16 PM)
anyone buying RHB PRS fund from FSM? Free touch and go card
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RM40/RM3000 = 1.33% only. One time "rebate". I will skip. Thank you. RHB PRS also not nice... My condition for PRS buying:
1) good fund which can perform
2) for tax relief

If cannot fulfill condition 1, I won't even bother to look.

Ramjade
post Jul 20 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jul 20 2017, 09:02 PM)
The post you were replying to was talking about "battle scars", and your response is "Lost 15%+ within few weeks"?

Haha..  biggrin.gif A few weeks does not qualify as battle-scars. It's just a minor bleep.

If you have been through 2007 to 2011 where the markets kept going down for a year or two, and stayed low, and have the experience to share, that's a different story.
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Ramjade
post Jul 20 2017, 11:13 PM

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jdgobio I don't believed in hiding in cash/bond during bad time. If bad time, the discount is not nice for me, I won't buy.

Everyone have different strategy. Yours is hide in cash/bond. Mine is take look. If not enough blood, I hold my off my purchases until more blood is seen. tongue.gif

After reading many blogs with the blogger's own proof, I came to the conclusion. one need to be brave to take look at when blood are on the street. By taking action during such time, one will be rewarded by
1) juicy dividend
2) possible triple digit returns.

No choice if one wants the 2 stuff.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 20 2017, 11:25 PM
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post Jul 20 2017, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(HahaCat @ Jul 20 2017, 08:53 PM)
So many GURUS here discuss about strategy, how can I be excluded? Unker Xuzen, wanna chip in?
Today Gen-Y, Gen-Z change already. They are not like the Warren Buffets, once invest 30 years horizon. They want shorter, quicker and they are more aggressive.

This is how I evolved as an investor. When I started 3-4 years ago. I used to have a diversified portfolio. With KGF etc.

Then I started to see, in some year, no matter how good LEE SOOK YEE is, in 2016, she made me no money.

And other funds goes up. On a 10 year average, LEE SOOK YEE FUND may be the best. But on a year to year basis, absolutely not.

That is when I took Unker Xuzen's cystal ball + my kung fu cat style. And make this the core of my investment strategy:

At any point when I buy a fund, I will do my own ground own research, with all the necessary numbers to support, justify and answer this question:

"If I buy this fund, what is my expected return in 1 year. And is this a figure acceptable to me and is it align with my investment goal."  If I am satisfy with the projections. I will buy, even if the whole world says NO. This is  my money, this is the performance of my life. Let the show begins!
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Two questions A fund could be could be holding say 50 stocks at a time.
Q1 How do you know what stocks are the fund manager holding? Usually only top 5-10 stocks holdings are shown. The rest are not shown. I am sure fund manager will never let outsiders know what stocks they are holding (like a trade secret)

Q2 Stocks holding changes on a daily basis. How do you keep track of it then?
Ramjade
post Jul 21 2017, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jul 21 2017, 09:45 AM)
And you know this because you have been investing through how many bad times? How long did it last and when exactly did you deploy your unhidden funds to take advantage of the bad times? What was the trigger for enough blood/ You kept your cash under your pillow while waiting for the blood to be enough? How much returns did your pillow give you while waiting?

Your theory is nice but the fact is you understand jack shit about bad times.
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I will share with you. S-reits sell down in Nov to dec. When I invest?
- Manulife AP reits in Nov. Right when sell down was bad. Lump sum. Plus topup amasia (which was lousy as amasia never performed). I didn't have my brokerage yet.
- Real S-reits in January when I got my brokerage account.
- It lasted for 1-2 months. Start to see real reversal in Feb.
- Investment is S-reits at that time is one of my best decision. Some of my reits are giving high 7%+ and high 8%+.
- Trigger: Donald Trump

Singtel
- Few months back. Major selldown also.
- Lasted I think 3 months of sell down. I only bought in the 2nd-3rd months onwards.I didn't average down further as drop was only ~4%. Before I bought, drop was quite significant. Before drop: 4.36. I bought at 10%+ discount to high price.
- Trigger: Competition in AU and SG.

Only foolish people keep cash under pillow. Find a high interest account 3%+ to keep your cash.

If SG. no choice, invest in bond fund giving 2-3% or 1% bank account. SG bank accounts are not nice.

Going forward, keep cash in amanah saham. Instant liquidity, 6% p.a while waiting for SGD to drop/blood to appear.

That's why I waiting for bad times. I haven't been doing any more buying these few months.

If you are scared, follow this strategy. This one unker's strategy. Not mine.No need to read annual report, no need to go for agm, no need to analyse.
- Wait for very very bloody scene.
- Buy bluechips supported by govt
- Sit back and enjoy life.
- Enjoy 6-10% dividend from the bluechip

This unker have over SGD1m and that was what he did and he hold only 3 counters. He have been holding them for over 20+ years. Retired unker. I like his strategy. Very little stress, very little work to do. I am partially incorpating his strategy together with ASSI.

You have your own way, I have mine. As long as you are happy and comfortable with your own way, there's no need to follow people.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 21 2017, 02:33 PM
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post Jul 21 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Jul 21 2017, 02:09 PM)
Come come. Default. Let me buy something. Hand sudah itchy. drool.gif
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post Jul 21 2017, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 21 2017, 08:47 PM)
White cat or black cat, does it really matter, as long as she can catch the rat?

Come all, come all, this is another good month. UTF all naik naik naik. Even the Selina Reits also naik wor, Ramjade, catching up on Manureits liao.... bruce.gif

For those of you gaiz and gurls who kept pumping in monneh in early July, I know you will be very very happy!  rclxms.gif

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I sell loh. No regrets.
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post Jul 21 2017, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 21 2017, 09:19 PM)
Real real sell, or tok-kok sell?

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Sell all of selina fund.
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Ramjade
post Jul 24 2017, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2017, 10:42 AM)
Anyone knows if there is a realtime S-Reits Index performance in realtime or other benchmark for Asia Pacific Reits which updates in realtime ?
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Of course.
FSTE ST Real Estate Investment Trust (old version)
SGX S-REIT Index (new version created by SGX)

Want S-reit ETF also ada
Phillip SGX APAC Dividend Leaders REIT ETF (australia heavy)
Nikko AM-Straits Trading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF (singapore heavy)

I am not vested in either ETFs as they are both lousy biggrin.gif

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post Jul 24 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2017, 11:39 AM)
How good the correlation of SGX S-REIT Index with manulife AP Reits performance ?
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Er who knows? I never look as I am not interest in those index.
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post Jul 24 2017, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2017, 12:37 PM)
I tembak only one.

Since I don't have any Reit, and AHSB is not doing that well, so I might as well move it out to Reit, money still stay within FI.

What do you think ?
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I have said many times, reit is > bonds. With interest rate going up, bond coupons are fixed. Reits dividends are not.
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post Jul 24 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2017, 04:50 PM)
Ok we need to filter marketing information then. Else we go holand.  blink.gif

p/s: The presentation chart indicated the performance is based on YTD 2017. That contradicts with the performance shown in FSM. FSM ones is in Ringgit, and Eastspring one is in USD ?
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I think it exist on FSM SG. Volatility and returnd wise, United still beat those HY bonds funds (according to historical data).

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post Jul 24 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 24 2017, 09:21 PM)
What is the 'it' which exist in FSM SG ? The USD MY high yield bond ? So these are foreign currency funds ?
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Eastspring have some HY bond funds available in SG. There's asian, US I think.
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post Jul 26 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Holyboy27 @ Jul 26 2017, 11:24 AM)
Hi guys, Is it possible to transfer in from a current Public Mutual PRS scheme into FSM's PRS?
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Of course.
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 26 2017, 12:04 PM)
Actually the answer is no. For Public Mutual funds invested in cash or EPF, in order to "transfer", you need to sell the public mutual funds and buy other funds available on FSM at 0% sales charge. So it's not really a transfer, more like a sell and buy for no service charge.

Because PRS has restriction to sell until retirement age. You can't sell and buy back
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But you can switch tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2017, 12:50 PM)
er.. what Ramjade said is "correct-er"

By structure/law - PRS can be SWITCHED between INTER-fund houses
Thus, dont need to redeem/sell from PubMut AND buy from FSM

However, pain as hell la the process & time
even within FSM itself, i SWITCHED from AffinHwang Growth to AmPRS REITs took... oh gawd.. + paperwork...
Not FSM's fault - it's the structure/flow for PRS SWITCHING between fund houses.

Just sharing "painful" experience - do-able but urgh..
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That's why must know what PRS you want to buy. So no switching switching business bruce.gif bruce.gif
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post Jul 26 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(gsan @ Jul 26 2017, 08:34 PM)
what happen to AH Asia Select Quantum Fund? It seem performance not that good since soft closing.
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30% focus in Malaysia. What do you expect. If KGF also stall, Affin Hwang Select Quantum should also stall as basically how malaysia bursa perform, that's how the both that fund will perform.
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post Jul 27 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(rain_wolf @ Jul 27 2017, 04:42 PM)
Anyone can guide me with this? Or is it just better to just buy with the minimum initial investment and then top up every month, since it is not that high?
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All funds basically you need to put in min then only can start RSP. Once RSP is started, you can stop it anytime. For me I never use RSP so I cannot tell you to start or stop it. I topup when I like.
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post Jul 27 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 27 2017, 06:45 PM)
saw this at FSM site.....
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QUOTE(drew86 @ Jul 27 2017, 07:09 PM)
Not true. Min investment amount does not apply to RSP.  Just sign up for RSP for that fund and it will purchase according to that min RSP amount. Did it for all my funds when I started out
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Ok thanks. My mistake. blush.gif
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post Jul 27 2017, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(rain_wolf @ Jul 27 2017, 09:01 PM)
It's ASB, the one for bumis one. Which has unlimited units to be purchased so I can buy it anytime. Is it still worth it tho buying it as asb has 7% dividend last year? I'm trying to diversify my investment.
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If you are a bumi, no need for affin hwang select bond fund.
If you are a non bumi, can consider it as replacement for ASW2020, ASM, AS1M if you cannot get these 3 funds. But all these 3 funds guaranteed can get once a year.

Your choice. I keep my ASNB over affin hwang because of it's instant liquidity.

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