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Ramjade
post May 30 2017, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ May 30 2017, 02:49 PM)
Again, the country with the one of the highest growth rates has the cheapest currency in the whole of SEA! and you think the currency is going to get weaker. Okay interesting conclusion. Dreamer101 had even more interesting conclusions ten years ago.. had pictures too, and graphs smile.gif long,long essays with lots of pictures and graphs about how we'd all be living in trees hunting and eating each other by now. Study all the charts you like, write all the long essays you like, in ten or twenty years, we will see I guess smile.gif
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I don't need to see. History have already shown us. You think RM can appreciate back to 3.8 vs the USD or 2.x vs SGD/AUD?

Well it's your choice. I have already make mine. If you have faith in RM so be it. I don't. I regretted not listening to Dreamer last time.

QUOTE(chosie @ May 30 2017, 02:49 PM)
As far as I understand from FSM website, managed portfolio is investing in UTF, not ETF like robo advisor. Am I missing anything from the website?
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That's true. Malaysia is not ETF ready. That's why Smartly the robo advisor which was going to launch in SG which invest in ETF said for malaysian and indon market, they will use unit trust instead as banking regulations does not permit ETF investing.
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post May 30 2017, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(chosie @ May 30 2017, 03:05 PM)
Thanks for the clarification Ramjade. Then, this would mean my invested money will need to pay for all the UTF charges + FSM managed portfolio charges.
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UTF management fees are already calculated into the NAV. If a fund beats the index benchmark, it means it also beat the ETF (ETF is based on the index) as performance of the fund have already included the management fees.

Eg. Kenanga Growth Fund vs KLCI (there are few ETF based on KLCI). It beats the KLCI by wide margin yearly. If you buy KLCI ETF, no doubt it's cheaper, but you did not beat Kenanga Growth Fund which means you get less money as the KLCI did not perform as good as Kenanga Growth fund.

QUOTE(wodenus @ May 30 2017, 03:06 PM)
I think currencies are manipulated by governments.
What did he say that made you regret not listening to him? he was pro-US and anti-Asia. Wonder how that turned out for him.
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Actually he's anti everything Malaysia. He mentioned anywhere is better. Even if he's pro US, he's laughing all the way to the bank as USD is still 4.3 vs the RM. Yes no doubt RM strengthen but how long can it last. I want the RM to strengthen (it's good for me as I mentioned before a strong RM can let me buy household items from US at cheaper price than malaysia as I get free shipping vs if I buy the same item from malaysia) but I am a realistic person so I don't my hopes high

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post May 30 2017, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Vintage @ May 30 2017, 09:41 PM)
hi peeps,

after opening an account i contacted the in-house investment specialist dude and he was really helpful in giving an in-depth recommendation on how i should get started. i'm quite convinced with his recommended portfolio but of course, it would be nice if i could gather some thoughts from the sifus here before i start committing into it.

kenanga growth fund - 10%
kaf vision fund - 10%
eastspring investment global emerging market fund - 10%
cimb principal asia pacific dynamic income fund - 20%
cimb principal global titans fund - 10%
rhb emerging market bond fund - 10%
affin hwang select bond fund - 10%
libra asnita bond fund - 20%

60% eq/40% fi

good portfolio to start off with?
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Consolidate KAF > KGF = 20%
Eastapring > 5% Manulife india + 5% cimb greater china/10% india
Consolidate Rhb Emerging + Libra asnita > affin hwang.

You can use eUT to buy affin hwang select bond fund if you have >=rm5k. For this bond fund, ok to do lump sum one shot. This will save you few RM/year (no need to pay FSM MY platform fees).
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post May 30 2017, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Vintage @ May 30 2017, 10:15 PM)
thanks for the quick reply but could you please elaborate a bit why i should be considering your suggestions?
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KGF trumps KAF. Lower volatility, higher returns (KGF)
Emerging market is basically asia. India can be considered emerging market. Both china and India can generate high returns over what emerging market fund can do.
Affin hwang select bond trumps other other bond fund when it comes to stability and return. Don't believe me, plot libra, affin and rhb and you can see the sell off during Trump tantrum in nov and you will see which one fall the most. Bond funds act as an anchor and you should choose the best anchor in terms of stability and returns.

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post May 31 2017, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 31 2017, 01:12 PM)
Don't get burned in airasia like I have via AirAsiaX. lucky I have the lessons from unit trust investment to teach me long term holding on it rather than trade with emotions running high
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21 things I learnt from AirAsia 2017 AGM
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post May 31 2017, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 31 2017, 01:50 PM)
ram thank you for the link. it gives a new insight on airasia
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Although this is a singaporean investment blog, the authors write about malaysian stocks as well as they also invest in malaysian stocks.
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post May 31 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 31 2017, 02:22 PM)
Ramjade is so well delved into every areas of money.

Sg, my, stock, bitcoin, gold, forex, ut, ......except for money game  rclxms.gif
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Correction: tiada investment in MY stock, bitcoin, gold, forex.

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post May 31 2017, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 31 2017, 08:51 PM)
Huh, this post deserved to be in 1st page.

But bond 30% isn't it a lill more conservative?

Its time to sell RHB then. lost day by day,

At first thinking there was market correction or what, but out of my 7 funds, this 2 just act like falling knife..
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Xuzen orang conservative what. RHB drop because USD dropping. If you have faith in USD, keep it. RM cannot keep appreciating. Will reverse course after election. If you have faith in RM, sell RHB. devil.gif
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post May 31 2017, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 31 2017, 09:33 PM)
Keep abit lo since not much also... lol
Election near? I doubt. At least half a year to go.
But I see lot people in my kampong start wayang ad lol
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Some say in Sept after SEA game. Latest August next year.

QUOTE(T231H @ May 31 2017, 09:34 PM)
you are not alone,...many people used to think of "higher the risk higher the returns".......
I think it because of ...sort of cumulative compounding effects of positive accumulation thru out the years....
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I think because 2008 wipe off huge chunk. 1998-2008 whistling.gif

QUOTE(Nemozai @ May 31 2017, 09:29 PM)
Make me wonder why I have been building a so called aggressive portfolio with 80% EQ and 20% bond all these while.  hmm.gif
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2008. 2008 wipe out a big chunk from the market.

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post Jun 1 2017, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 31 2017, 09:54 PM)
see yklooi's signature?

"--------------------
“What we do know about crises [is] that they occur with great frequency. What we don’t know is when they will happen, what will be the cause, how long the bear market will last and how deep it will be?” ---- investment writer Larry Swedroe.
We know crises will happen but we don’t know when. In order to account for that, we have to invest for the long-term knowing a crash is bound to happen someday.
In other words, your investment plan must incorporate the virtual certainty that you are going to have live through many crises, perhaps about one every other year or so
, and live through them with equanimity, without panicking and selling.”

thus always go modestly......devil.gif
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I know some people withdraw everything now and keep cash only devil.gif Even Warren Buffet is doing the same. "We know crises will happen but we don’t know when. In order to account for that, we have to be prepare for mega discount." devil.gif You want to sit on the sidelines or you want the opportunity of once in a lifetime? rclxs0.gif Of cause must have titanium balls for that brows.gif

Imagine netting Midvalley/Maybank/Nestle at 10%p.a dividend. drool.gif

QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ May 31 2017, 11:26 PM)
I just started selling off/reducing a few funds and haven't completed buying what i wanted. Would get my new portfolio up by next Friday and then i shall post my before and after portfolio.
Would take Xuzen's recommendation into consideration.

Btw, I'm getting into KGF, was just wondering that if I'm just only able to invest in one; either KGF or KGF PRS (Just to get the 1k incentive, but the downside is that i can't take my cash out till i reach 55), which would be a better choice ?

I do understand that KGF's PRS is a combination of KGF 60%+ and Kenanga's Bond Fund 30%.
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Pick either Cimb Asia Pacific or KGF. Malaysia stock market die, KGF also die. Malaysia stock market die, Cimb asia pacific won't die. devil.gif I pick Cimb. No more amasia reits for me.

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jun 1 2017, 08:51 AM)
What did u buy exactly? If you read what the fund managers write recently, most of them would conclude Q1 was really good and they don't expect the rest of the year would deliver anything close to that

You need to consider if your fund choices and allocation matches your risk appetite. It sounded to me that you have rather unrealistic expectations. UT is not ponzi scheme, it would not deliver consistent superior returns; it's designed to deliver reasonable returns over mid-long term with minimal effort required from the investor
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Menteri cakap anything more than 6-7%p.a. is unrealistic (replying to reporters on how avoid scam) and here we are all aiming for >10% whistling.gif innocent.gif

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post Jun 1 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jun 1 2017, 09:12 AM)
I think menteri trying to manage ASB depositors' expectations

Pls report back if you meet your 10% annualised returns over 3 years or more....
I'm not so greedy geh, can annualised 8% over 5 years or more I very happy liao; after all I don't have crystal ball
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I have already reached my min 10% but not sure if sustainable or not.
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post Jun 1 2017, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jun 1 2017, 04:57 PM)
I got 20% RHB AIF.....

And xuzen has stopped promoting RHB AIF....

What should i do? Switch to othet UT? I only havr it for a .month. Should i wait  longer.

I last heard xuzen have AIF too...

And i dont even know what wrong with AmReits. Always negative
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Be confident with what you have bought. Ask yourself whu did you buy it in the first place.

Amasia fund manager lousy.
Wonder if it can even reached 5% in a year...

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post Jun 1 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(walkman660 @ Jun 1 2017, 07:54 PM)
correct me if i am wrong,

i would say 60 to 70% of the fund (other than money market / bond fund) give at least 5% of annualized return for long term period (5 years or more),

so anyone here actually just diversified their portfolio (like 30% bond / 70% equity) and just leave it for 3-5 years without do any switching?

if yes, how is the return, i am really curious about it
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If you want min 5% put in amanah saham/EPF/Affin hwang select bond fund. Guaranteed can get 5% p.a

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post Jun 1 2017, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Jun 1 2017, 08:32 PM)
i gonna dump amreits when i can break even... so does AIF, both gonna change to KGF
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I am gonna dump when the return = 1 year promo FD = ~4%.

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post Jun 1 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Jun 1 2017, 09:16 PM)
AmREITS is closely related to AmFIRST REIT?

Always wanted to buy keep some REITS in my stocks portfolio, but seeing how the property market perform currently, I'm holding my bullets.
Thanks for the insight, that explains the volatility. But if the RM continues to weaken, this bond should benefit from it right?
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No connection.

You sure or not? "Seeing how the property market perform currently". Let me show you some of my s-reits These reits give dividend 4x/year. So the dividend drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 1 2017, 09:20 PM)
I have been hearing this for too long but seriously what is stopping you from doing it immediately ( since you are confident that it is not giving you the return you want ) ?
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Haven't even reach. Right now only 2%. Every single time it reach 2%+ it will reverse gear to 1.6%-1.8%. Tell me how to reach 4% like that.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 1 2017, 09:44 PM)
My question is why do you have to wait till it teaches 4% ? Tomorrow you switch it to Ambond Fund, and using the earn credit you can switch it finally to Manulife reits.
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Switch to manulife reit. Now increasing I am not gonna do that. Don't know how much it can increase further. Better sit tight and hope amasia also increases.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 1 2017, 09:57 PM)
So weird lar. Sounds like you are falling in love with your fund.  devil.gif
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Nope. I intend to buy when market dips. Either way I will dump amasia when it reaches 4% or when it reaches 1 year anniversary (whichever comes first).
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post Jun 2 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 2 2017, 10:47 AM)
How long have you been tracking them?
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Since January. But just got my first payment around May. Miss my payment for January as I bought after ex date. Keep in mind that if you use a fund and invest in reits, you kena with holding taxes vs if you go on your own.

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