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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Apr 20 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(ganaesan @ Apr 20 2017, 12:42 AM)
Najib leaving soon.... thts the reason his cousin is appointed as special function minister....

look back at history, former Sarawak CM Adenan Satem was appointed as special function minister before sarawak election.... after election he became CM

special function minister post is used to bypass a person infront of u to hold higher post...

just wait n see bro
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interesting thought cos my colleagues had that discussion yesterday too. is there a loud 'secret hush hush news' going around? if that's the intention, they are really bad in keeping it secret though.
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post Apr 28 2017, 10:59 AM

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chill people. most times a sudden drop has a reason. once you're in this long enough, you will start to get annoyed with distribution because that's not the real value for that particular time. keep calm and move on. happy friday and long weekend people!
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post May 5 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 5 2017, 09:23 AM)
no you weren't here when he told all of us a major correction is coming and affecting the Asian markets and was actively telling new members to follow suit. when we asks him to back them up with facts he runs and ignores some of us.

also I found out he used a duplicate account coming by contestgeek to spread falsehood. it's up to your conscience and be on your high horse to berate me but understand that if nobody questions his motives that you are doing a disadvantage to the community.

understand boh? or you just defend only?

on a side note go over to stock exchange and look at all the topics he has opened to the point cherroy  got annoyed. till date he continues to open topics which can be answered in main threads.

So you see a pest you allow it to roam freely in your abode? yes I have not have coffee in the morning.
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just let them be bro. you did your community service of sorts. much appreciation.
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post May 16 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(kingz113 @ May 16 2017, 11:05 AM)
That makes sense,  that is why the good ones deserve their management fee.
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oh boy. don't dig that out again. gonna start other here-we-go-again discussion about should we or should we not give management fees.
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post Jun 29 2017, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Msxxyy @ Jun 29 2017, 08:17 AM)
Hi,
I'm hoping for more than 10 percent.
Thank you.
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are you ready for a 10 percent drop in your investment value too then? if you are, then good to go.
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post Jul 3 2017, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jul 3 2017, 02:05 PM)
Didn't want the topic to be focused on how much money one earns at what age for too long

Decided to highlight this latest article instead
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...June-2017--8527

Thought it is one of the better written article on FSM. It introduces more sophisticated measures like downside volatility and maximum drawdown which are very good measures to address risks. We put a lot of emphasis of getting lower volatility funds, but some higher volatility funds have low downside volatility and the volatility is all on the positive side which is a big plus instead of a weakness

The problem is, there's no easy way to obtain these data. Previously iportfolio does provide a glimpse of that but now the site is taken down

Any angel would share tips on where to get these stuffs?  blush.gif
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waiting for info on this. would give a diff perspective before making decisions alright.
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post Jul 4 2017, 08:26 AM

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female or male, all have the right to invest and learn to invest. we could learn new things from both sides of the gender spectrum definitely.
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post Jul 9 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(conankun @ Jul 9 2017, 12:13 PM)
A. 21-30yo (the Gen Z)
skynode 5.0% since Feb 2017
conankun 1.4% since Apr 2017
Avangelice since 2015
B. 31-40yo (the Gen Y)
C. 41-50yo
D. 51-60yo

Silent reader here~ am grateful to few sifus here especially xuzen Avangelice ramjade~ wish you all well
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group A since 2015 as well.
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post Jul 11 2017, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 11 2017, 08:28 AM)
Seriously what are you trying to achieve?  biggrin.gif
for my case, I think it may not be a wise idea to have an IRR incorporated into my FSM a/c.
1st,. like myself....I have 2 UT investment a/c ....1 with FSM and 1 with Affinhwang........thus have to consolidated my UT investment performance
2st,....like myself....it was not a good feeling and at times demoralising when after 3 1/2 years of UT investing.....the IRR shows < 4% which make me wonder if I did make a wrong judgement in investing in UT instead of chasing FD promo tongue.gif

anyway I think IRR is a wise call to have IRR data in the FSM a/c too, for it could be informative to some group of investors.......

but what I learnt from here last year was IRR did not consider your learning curves factor.....so for those that had long period of depressing IRR value , like I did,.....
unless you keep holding the same portfolio for years and still not keen to change.......
I did the normal IRR (since investment date start) and I also consider another IRR value from which I made major changes to my portfolio composition (since new portfolio start)......
but when reviewing the IRR of this new port I also have to consider the timing of my new port entry..for I may have been lucky that the timing of my new port formation could have coincided with the mkt upswing period ....just like this latest port formation and entry.....
I will have to wait for a major correction to see how my port formation stand after the major sell off before I can tell if my port is anywhere near/close to better than the last one.

good and bad actions are shown in IRR that exclude the good or bad actions made recently to change the past performance......
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i agree. very disheartening when you see it's still less than 4% or even 8% per year. i mean, just trying to outdo FD only ma. not as easy for some i guess.
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post Jul 11 2017, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 11 2017, 08:59 AM)
actually this irr thing is great in calculation against Insurance linked plans that dilute their roi and other investment vehicles like epf
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that may be so. for me, i'm a simple person. just wanna know how much i made over said time. that's it. but of course that simple idea might not be agreeable with some pros here.
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post Jul 11 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 11 2017, 09:09 AM)
See, even with IRR figure, people still can't get it correct in the mindset.

It is not entirely correct if you compare your DCA IRR <4% with FD 4%.

It's only correct if the money has been available since day 1 (either lump sum or gradually DCA). When money is only gradually available from your job earning, then the comparison with one lump sum FD is unfair.
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you are right. so in the end, i should not compare and just take it at face value then.
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post Jul 13 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Jul 13 2017, 11:46 AM)
Ramjade and puchogite bro,

Don't think these calculations will be very helpful for us leh. If you are confident in Interpac, go for it. If you are afraid of all these details, who holds what and how many holders, there are MANY other alternatives. And Ramjade don't repeat your mistakes in personal loan 100k thread wink.gif
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actually i would like to see it go on for a while. still trying to know if NAV will be effected if suddenly a large amount of money is injected. ramjade say number of units are fixed so is that confirmed with sources. from what i read and understand, his logic is not wrong so far.

just learning. don't shoot me if i misunderstood.
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post Jul 20 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 20 2017, 03:45 PM)
hmm.gif can try start with this?....monitor the performance of your portfolio and your emotional reaction to it during good and BAD times.....reduce or increase EQ or FI funds types and / or allocation to suits.
else it would be better for you to contact FSM CIS for advise....
i am sure they are willing to help.
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sokong. but he needs a esther bond fund somewhere in that mix. personal opinion. if you go with this is still ok. what you don't want to do is invest blindly and then make losses aka tuition fees. too much of that paid can really hurt.
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post Jul 28 2017, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(rain_wolf @ Jul 28 2017, 12:58 PM)
Okay got it. Thank you kind sir.  notworthy.gif
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not a sir
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post Aug 2 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 2 2017, 12:26 PM)
remember when attending talks or seminars, focus on the details that the FM provides like what they expect will happen to a specific market in the future. go back home and do a little reading or research.

then head into your fundsupermart comparison chart to find the best fund that invest in that particular market. you don't attend seminars to buy their funds. they are after all selling their funds to you
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THANKS doc for the reminder before lunch.
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post Aug 2 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 2 2017, 02:39 PM)
Many crouching tigers and hidden dragons.  rclxms.gif
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and proud ostriches
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post Aug 2 2017, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 2 2017, 04:29 PM)
This reminds me a long long time ago when property brought better returns than equities and there were two camps of people , those who say that the property market bubble will burst and another camp who said property price will go up.

Never occurred to both parties that prices might be stagnant and the bubble size remains as it is which is happening now. I was the only one who had that view.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=64718062
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you went head to head with jolokia? to be honest, it's gloom and doom there nowadays. i just go and check out for any recent news regarding property. these jokers keep waiting for the moment to go in makes me wonder if it even happens.
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post Aug 3 2017, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(young_97 @ Aug 3 2017, 11:29 AM)
Sorry I'm new on this.
Investing is more like passive income that accumulate over time right?
And trading is selling and buying in a short term?

I just move my money from maybank GIA-i to RHB CMF not long ago
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speaking as someone who have gia-i before they kamikaze their products and being in FSM at the same time, you cannot have the same mentality with your gia-i here. if you put here, you will get higher than gia-i for sure, but it's over 3 years average to actually see results. if you want a month to month thing, cmf is the only place for you.

however, i know how you are thinking regarding interests and hoping to find something similar to eGIA-i, sadly, you won't find another one like that for awhile. those were good days. cry.gif
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post Aug 8 2017, 09:36 AM

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better ramjade than hahacat or contestchris. just saying. no offense brother ramjade.
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post Aug 8 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Aug 8 2017, 09:46 AM)
I don't know why today everyone seems to wake up and synchronize the attacks towards Ramjade. Poor Ramjade becomes the serving on the morning breakfast plates for everyone. LOL.

I thought his persistency in dispelling sifu Xuzen's idea of Am Reits over Manulife Reits is commendable.
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i got no issue with him to be honest. that manulife over am reits is to his credit as well. but everyone has their own opinion so i don't speak for everyone else.

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