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spiderman17
post Dec 2 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Dec 2 2017, 01:27 PM)
Just for fun and to better understand why many forumers encountered losses recently, I simulated the Master Xuzen's Crystal ball (base on above post) performance using FSM portfolio simulator.

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In above picture, portfolio #1 is mine, the portfolio #2 is Xuzen's. And, both of them is 30% FI and 70% EQ.

Obviously, the Master's Portfolio had been flat for 3 months, but with low volatility. If includes the sales charge/ switching fee, it is a loss.

My portfolio is too concentrate on Asia Ex Japan, making its higher volatility.
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do share your port for reference/study


my portfolio irr and roi both drop below 10%.. cry.gif
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my managed port(balanced) irr also dropped to just ~3%...but i just topped up a few weeks ago so maybe the xirr is skewed..
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post Dec 4 2017, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 4 2017, 11:22 AM)
Don't panic guys. This was the market correction that we have been expecting the whole year long. Those of you keeping that extra fund for discount buy, did you use the opportunity ? Or did you hold back ?

Anyway, I believe the storm might now have passed. US passed the corporate tax cuts and economic data still points to growth.
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I'm still keeping those extra fund/war chest. The dip/discount was too short, too quick...
i'm a slow mover, can't react to it. biggrin.gif
if the dip lasted a few months...then maybe i can start utilising it.
for now, i think I'm still more suited to buying once every month.
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post Dec 5 2017, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Dec 5 2017, 01:42 PM)
IDS drops 11.3% froms its last peak. But, seems nobody here want to buy or top up, while quite many are selling or thimking to sell it.
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how about you? are you thinking about buying IDS?
i noticed you don't have a malaysia-focused fund in your portfolio.
is the market PE on the high side based on your opinion?

i have KGF. i'm still thinking if i should add IDS or not...
any thoughts?
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post Dec 6 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Dec 5 2017, 08:56 PM)
I did invest IDS, but sold the last  batch in October.
I was very lucky, invested IDS since April at price 0.45xx to 0.59xx and start to sell in August and sold the last batch on 17 Oct at price 0.6017.  biggrin.gif , almost at the peak.

I sold IDS mainly because i don't know what I had invested to. It updated its factsheet every 3 months, but without updating their top holding. I don't know what it is holding...
By looking at annual report, IDS number of unit holders in whole Malaysia is 60 only.  hmm.gif  Do u sense any risk behind this number?  I do.
Normally, i don't include Msia EQ in my UT portfolio because i am holding quite a lot of (to me) Msia blue chips stock (Maybank, TNB, Maxis etc), which i bought >10 years ago. Moreover, I don't have confidence to Msia market especially before election, as I still can remember clearly that how the stock sank right after the election of 308. Furthermore, currently, PMI is <50 for years, Companies earning is below historical average level.

To me, i don't agree with FSM who allocating 15% to malaysia fund. I personally think that the risk of Msia EQ is almost same with India EQ, as both of them are emerging market with high GDP growth rate, and both of them (stock and currency) are easily be manipulated by foreign fund.

Malaysia Fund is also single country fund, and malaysia stock market is too small, therefore easily be manipulated/impacted by foreign inflow. But, if without enough foreign inflow, malaysia stock market is very boring one, flat for months.

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post Dec 6 2017, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Dec 6 2017, 06:17 PM)
Investors are “locking in profits earlier than usual for the year and not opening any new positions,” said Andrew Clarke, director of trading at Mirabaud (Asia) Ltd. “Eventually, as profit taking subsides, buying for the new year will appear as people look toward 2018.”

Don't panic. Prepare bullets. This is my opinion. Still my heart aches as my profits are wiped out.
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Actually, how did he know for sure?
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post Dec 7 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 7 2017, 06:15 PM)
statement can be found in the profile but not in the mail...

is there any chance they wrongly sent?
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Same here.
The distribution of ponzi2 also out already...can be seen in transaction history but no email statement.

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post Dec 9 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 9 2017, 10:51 AM)
waiting for some poster to ask why cimb dynamic Asia ex Japan drop so much this coming week
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So, why cimb dynamic Asia ex Japan drop so much this coming week?
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post Dec 10 2017, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 10 2017, 09:33 PM)
haish it's distribution!! where your statement come from when the comment above you state the China market went up.
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Are we talking about the same fund:
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund (MYR) ?
As far as I know, last distribution was recently in Nov, and reflected in FSM on 01Dec already. Where do you see the info on distribution?
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post Dec 15 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 15 2017, 09:44 AM)
Managed portfolio put to test in the previous correction. Seems people's confidence is still unaffected.
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for me, the correction was too short...it would be good (for me) to compare managed vs diy port on a 3-6month correction period. i'd like to see how capable is my managed port in managing risk / limiting downside
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post Dec 15 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 15 2017, 11:25 AM)
hmm.gif  this got alot to do with the type of managed portfolio the investor chooses ..... the person on the other end just allocates the asset according to the investor preferences....
if the investor choosen to be high in equities vs fi ratio....then during the "BAD" times...have to bear with the downfall risk lor.....nothing much the the person at the other end can do....they have a mandate to keep to that ratio.....
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my diy and managed port are both balanced profile with about 60-40. i'm comparing these 2.
in rising market...seems like managed port beat my diy. so i'd like to see how it handles falling market.
then maybe i can finally decide what to treat my managed port as..
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post Dec 20 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 20 2017, 02:16 PM)
Based strictly on my gut-feel, I think the market sentiment has picked up...

The trough was somewhere early of Dec17.

What a short lived scare.

Those who had the balls of steel, you have a good chance during the first two weeks of Dec. If

Those who had the regular balls and is doing DCA, well, not too bad... not bad at all...

Those who waited and waited and waited.... well, keep waiting. Your chance will come again... I am sure... two years later. So keep on waiting....

Xuzen
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why two years? confused.gif
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post Jan 1 2018, 10:52 PM

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My diy port ended 2017 with > 10% irr. rclxm9.gif
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meanwhile, my managed port(balanced) ended 2017 with irr 4.5%..
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post Jan 2 2018, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 2 2018, 09:45 AM)
looking at yr chart.....from the period of END May to Dec....your DIY port increased from 7.X% to 12.X%, thus about 5.x%
while the managed port increased at about the same rate from END May to Dec......
hmm.gif just wondering which one has higher portfolio's volatility  confused.gif
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i think cannot look at ROI chart coz i'm topping up both diy and managed port every month.
but good point/thinking anyway...
so i should not compare the irr directly because the diy port started in 2016, and top up value as a % of port value is smaller compared to managed port.
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post Jan 8 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jan 8 2018, 05:24 PM)
Wah, 0% SC for investment fair participants only  shocking.gif
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..then must attend...
like a full work day 8.45am-4.45pm..
didn't mention if lunch provided? >> ok, saw it. food is not provided

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post Jan 11 2018, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 11 2018, 08:48 AM)
about 6 months back...FSM did mention this in one of their article....

"In the race to garner more asset under management (AUM), some fund houses have resorted to tactics of declaring dividends frequently, as this may lead to misinterpretation that the funds are doing well and investors may be inclined to invest more into the “good dividend” funds. Investors who fell prey to this may be left with empty baskets in the long run."

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also, for those interested about the left pocket to right pocket logic and the "cheaper price now" ....pls read page 555, post 11081
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ponzi 2.0 buy buy buy. it's cheaper now tongue.gif

jokes aside, the invested region under ponzi 2.0 is still rated 4.5 star according to fsm...so it's still buy buy buy
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right?
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post Jan 17 2018, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 17 2018, 02:20 PM)
So how many here has hit the average of 15% ?
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not me. i'm around 10-11%. my irr has never hit 15% since the start of portfolio in 2016 cry.gif

QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 17 2018, 03:05 PM)
Nope. Semua OK je.
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means u r sophisticated enough
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post Jan 18 2018, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Jan 18 2018, 06:56 PM)
Received the 0% sales charges campaign code from CIS, after register the event.

But, it can be used only on 20/01/18...just one day...
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Eh, when do you register? How come I haven't got my campaign code...
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post Jan 19 2018, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(i1899 @ Jan 19 2018, 01:58 AM)
Registered on Monday and received the email this morning. Code only
The title of email:

0% Sales Charge Campaign Code (exclusive for selected clients only)

Terms and conditions:
This promotion is only valid on 20 January 2018.
This promotion code is applicable for new investments only including using RHB Cash Management Fund 2 to invest into other funds (including RHB funds).
To enjoy 0% sales charge, enter the promotion code before confirming your transaction.
This promotion code can only be used once to purchase unit trusts in 1 purchase order on 20 January 2018 only.
Promotion code is applicable to all funds from participating fund houses except Affin Hwang Select Income Fund and not valid for FSM Managed Portfolios.
To be eligible for this promotion, all cash payments (Cheque and Internet payments) and EPF forms must reach us by 26 January 2018, 3pm.
This promotion does not apply to transactions involving Intra Switch Buy, Regular Savings Plan (RSP) and Inter Switch Buy.
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Did you register for Penang or Petaling event?
maybe it's a perk for being platinum status?
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post Jan 20 2018, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jan 20 2018, 10:05 AM)
of course I know lol

you think those gold and platinum people really care a few penny...
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I think they do. Else the current 0% won't interest them also, considering platinum already on lower rate.
Also the attraction of eunittrust 0% periodic promo which is applicable to larger sums.
And take a look at the FD thread where they are chasing marginal 0.x% better rate. HNWI there too.

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post Jan 20 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 20 2018, 11:47 AM)
I made a significant move this weekend.

I sold all my RHB EMB [ all MYR 50K worth ] with a loss of around 4% within a six months holding period.

I switched approx RM 35K to Lee Sook Yee  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif fund

and

approx RM 15K to Eastspring Dinasti [ Pure China fund ].

I am bullish on equity in 2018 especially Malaysian and China. M'sia has been oversold in 2H2017 and China / Hang Seng PER stands at single digit.

I'm underweight with regards to fixed income [ bullish sentiments, hence reduce fixed income portion ]

Maintain neutral call on US [ high PER ]

Above neutral for REITs [ I am experimenting using this asset class as " semi fixed income" role ]

My target for this year has now become 70% EQ : 30% FI.

Huat ! Huat ! Huat !

Xuzen
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Now I know your port size...hehe
This Lee Sook Yee fund is a billion ringgit fund, limited to Malaysia exposure. Do you think it may start to limit it's ability to react given its size?


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