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post Jul 22 2018, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(ssajnani @ Jul 22 2018, 10:07 PM)
Looking forward to it as always:)
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My previous style was to write cheong - hei article but now I think I may be suffering from writer's block hence no cheong - hei article.


My latest Algozen™ ver four reading is prompting me to skew my exposure to less risky assets such as RHB Income fund (Asia - pac balanced fund ) , Selina Reits (Asia-pac reits), ES Equity Income (M'sia large cap) and Asnita bond ( M'sia corporate bond). I am abandoning China fund for the time being. Until trade war is resolved, I'll sit out this war that benefit no one except some ego of a megalomaniac named Trump.


Will review again in Jan 2019 or until some firm decision on this trade war.


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post Aug 3 2018, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 2 2018, 05:50 PM)
Blood bath kicks starts again!
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In the month of July 2018, it was a good month for my port. The biggest contributor would be TA Tech ( Mainly US exposed ) & Eastspring Equity Income ( KLCI large cap )

My port made a gain of 2% M-o-M.

Having said that at the end of the month, I took profit by switching the excess into more defensive UTF such as AmReits, Affin-Hwang Asia-Pac ( x-Jp ) Dividend fund. Mainly I am going into AmReits for its relative low volatility. I exited all from Eastspring Dinasti. I do not want to expose to such high volatile UTF. Until that crazy Trump and China sort out their trade issue, I'll stay away from this nonsense.

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post Aug 5 2018, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(voyage23 @ Aug 4 2018, 05:09 PM)
Can you calm down? You have been in this forum for long enough already but still reacting like a newbie. I miss good old days of level headed people like Xuzen PinkSpider etc.
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Gua fikir lama - lama , fikir baik - kaik , tulis rencana yang cheong - hei ... yang bagus punye.

Then, in come a few noobies and post one liner post that is repeating ad nauseum questions such as:,

1) which fund to buy?

2) Now can enter ah?

3) Eh, market down wor... can sell or not?

Etc

Etc...

And my cheong - hei article get lost in the whole mess of things.

Sigh... that is why these days I just prefer to be a lurker.

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post Aug 11 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Vk21 @ Aug 10 2018, 01:51 PM)
Waithing...  smile.gif  notworthy.gif
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Friend,

Thank you for putting faith in my crystal baloneylogy.

This round until Jan 2019, I am on a " cautiously optimistic with expected volatility " theme for my port.

Hence with the above in mind, I will put my money into Income'ish type UTF.

1) TA Tech for alpha generation. Although not a income fund, but this UTF is still the best in my port so far. She is a keeper. ( 20% )

2) Eastspring Equity Income. This is a KLCI Large Cap Dividend'ish exposed UTF. ( 25% ).

3) AMReits - Dividend UTF. For those who want something better than bond, but no bola to take on greater risk.


4) Asnita - 30%. Local corporate bond for the stability. Just like dating the girl next door. Safe and sound.


As you can see I am on a cautiously optimistic with expected volatility theme and my selected UTF reflect my risk. This UTF will stay in my port until my next review in Jan 2019.

Xuzen

p/s No pokemon style " Gotta catch em' all ".

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post Aug 11 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Aug 11 2018, 12:32 PM)
pokemon style catch em all in FSM managed port..
THey just dumped united global and Templeton balanced fund after switching in for less than 6 months
And added franklin us fund, rhb GS us fund, ta Europe fund.. plus increasing exposure to united Japan..
They are switching in and out like traders.. while preaching stay calm and dont panic in their article..
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post Aug 20 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(hong823 @ Aug 20 2018, 03:50 AM)
My portfolio:
TA Global Tech - 55%
KGF - 19%
CIMB Asia Pac Dynamic MYR - 14%
Eastspring Dinasti - 11%

I felt my portfolio is too much overweighted on Tech sector, since Dinasti and CIMB Asia Pac is also holding much Tech stocks.

I'm thinking to switch out some TA Global Tech to some other fund is a little diversify it.

Despite all these news mentioned Tech sector is too expensive i still get a relatively stable +/-5% YTD for TA Global Tech and the rest is just red since Feb 2018.  rclxub.gif

Any recommendation?
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I have been holding TA tech for the past two or three years. I am happy with this UTF.

In my personal port, right now I keep skimming profit from it and put it to M'sia KLCI exposed UTF [ some people use the term " rebalancing " ]


QUOTE(ChessRook @ Aug 20 2018, 09:59 AM)
Am I correct in saying this, the reason why global stocks like United global, ta Global technology, etc are doing well is that these stocks are weighted heavily in the US. And the US stocks are doing the best compared with other stocks around the world.

Last year China stocks are going  bananas up but thanks to you know who, this year all the Asian stocks including China are in a whirlwind.
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Yes, yes ! I agree with your statement. How perseptive of you.


US NASDEQ naik as well as USD naik makes TA Tech an Ultimate UTF on 'roid.


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QUOTE(infested_ysy @ Aug 20 2018, 02:36 PM)
Put in RM5k into CIMB-PRINCIPAL GREATER CHINA EQUITY FUND some 4-5 months ago. Now it's worth RM4,542.29 (-9.15%)

Should I just pull out? Or top up $?
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Classic case of treating UTF as though is stock - market.... shakehead.gif


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post Aug 24 2018, 02:44 PM

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Sep 18 looks promising for my port... Go go go!

Green green green.

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post Aug 25 2018, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Aug 24 2018, 09:41 PM)
How do you know the future?
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sorry sorry, paiseh paiseh.

It is a typo. Should be August instead of September.

Also, let me take this opportunity to state that currently my port has reached the desired eq to fi ratio of 70 to 30.

My non pokenon port consist of the following members:

1) TA Tech 20%

2) Eastspring Equity Income 25%

3) Selina reits at 25%

4) Anita Bond 30%

This, according to my good friend Algozen™ ver four, sits at an optimal risk to reward ratio point, only consisting of four members, unlike some professional managed account, play Pokemon style here and there.

p/s I play retail only UTF that are available in FSM universe. I am purely a retail investor who does not have access to any kind of " wholesale " fund whatsoever.

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post Aug 25 2018, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Aug 25 2018, 10:39 AM)
What is selina reit? Conservertive ports with 30% bonds, 25% big caps and reits.
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Selina reits

It may seem conservative but that is where the best risk optimized return portfolio lies at the moment.

This ties in well because you will notice for the past three quarters the market has been very volatile and Algozen™ ver four is written to penalize high volatility.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 25 2018, 04:40 PM)
big boss, I remember you said Amreits is nothing compared to manureits....
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You confuse me with that Kiamsiap Singaporean wannabee...
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 25 2018, 04:40 PM)
big boss, I remember you said Amreits is nothing compared to manureits....
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You confuse me with that Kiamsiap Singaporean wannabee...
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post Aug 25 2018, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Aug 25 2018, 10:20 PM)
1) How did you know when to change your portfolio to a conservative one? Is it 1 or 2 or 3 months into the downturn?

2) Is there transactional costs that you incur when you change your port? Did you incur inter or intra switching costs? Or time costs when you switch from equity of UT fund A into bond of fund A, then bond of fund B and finally equity UT of fund B.

3) How long are you going to stay with your conservertive port? How do you know when to switch?

4) Why did you go into TA Global Technology Fund when it is so volatile is it because of performance?

5) How do you define pokemon style? Is it more than 6 UT types? Is it 8 types? Why limit yourself to 4 types of UTs?

6) Is pokemon style really bad? The transactional costs of monitoring and comparing the different UTs performance against each other with fundsupermart is so low and can be done easily. There is "chart center" and "fund selector" which allows one to easily compare. All these can be done within less than 30 mins once or twice a year.
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There is no transactional cost for my port because I use wrap account.

I will stay with this port fomposition until Jan 2019. Algozen™ ver four will tell me plus I have been using UTF since 2005 as a wealth management tool, I have a certain flair, a certain je ne sais quoi so to speak.

TA tech has been my alpha for a long long time. I think I have it in my port composition since 2015. It has brought me joy and happiness. TA Tech is not that volatile lah! Try China fund for comparison and see...

I think above six UTFs is considered Pokemon style already.

Pokemon style = dilute your alpha. You earn peanuts here and there... no syiok factor.

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Aug 26 2018, 10:47 AM)
Correct me if I am wrong, you are optimising the 1) risk and return 2) min the correlation between the different UTs in your portfolio?

Very impressive approach than intuitive way. Did you compare the algozen performance with other approaches?

I too invested in TA tech. Good performance for me so far.

I have also looked at morning star and the correlation analysis it produces. What other resources or anything else I missed.? I just started investing in Mar this year.
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Yes, you are right. I proudly declare I am a follower of Markowitz's Modern Portfolio Theory.

Algozen™ ver four did not lose money vis-a-vis FSM Managed portfolio. Admitedly the return has been lacklustre but at least she did not lose money. The case is different with FSM managed portfolio given the grievences laid bare by the participants here.

And why it is so darn difficult to make money for the past 3 quarters? Trump lah... he is a pariah leader, one day talk like this, the next day can go 180 degrees U-turn without thinking of consequences. He thinks the world revolves around him. He has the ego the size of Jupiter.

You have the data from morningstar. But what you are missing is the algorthm to assist you make the decision. What you have is just raw data. You cannot use raw data without an algorithm to make the data useful.

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Aug 26 2018, 02:51 PM)
Most people just copy and paste your portfolio  biggrin.gif

Having seen your port; can I say there are just 4 broad classes of UTs that are not strongly correlated to each other:

1) the US camp (eg TA Tech, Global Titans, etc)

2) the China camp (eg Asia-pacific UT funds, KGF, etc all tend to follow China. If China shares goes up, all the Asian shares also goes up and vice versa)?
3) other asset classes like Reits where they don't quite behave like 1 and 2.
4) ofc bond funds.
BTW, lets wait till Nov election - if democrats win big, trump may not last and we are on the way to big win thumbup.gif
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There are about 250 UTFs in the FSM universe. My first step is to select the top ten most desirable UTFs and this is based on what I read and understand from various media sources including reports from the various Fund Houses. This is the part which is subjective and is solely based on my biased opinion and personal gut feel. This part takes a certain je ne sais quoi.

Out of these ten short-listed candidate I will throw them into Algozen™ ver four and let her do the computation. Then I will use her to churn out various scenario & outcome. This is the analytical part. Pure computational work. Too tedious for human to do it, only a computer can do it.

Then of the many outcomes that are churned out, I will select the outcome that in my opinion, which I am most comfortable with. Again, this is based on personal experience. So, if let say I choose outcome A, and suddenly the world changes with some new info that will move the market wildly, I will already have in my library outcome B, C, D... so forth and I can quickly change my port accordingly. That is why I rarely lose money. Lackluster ROI yes, lose money no, except in this 2018... in the 12 preceding month of tracking, my port made 5 months of lost and that is a record for my port. Prior to 2018, I rarely lose money. But prior to this, we do not have a mad Trump to disturb the market. But nonetheless, the port as a whole made money 12 mths preceding.


QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 27 2018, 09:09 AM)
no China/HK/Taiwan (Greater China)?

no Asia Pac non Reits Equities funds?

currently giving up on Asia Pac regions for the next half year?

25% in Malaysia Eq.....must have confident that M'sia will be better in the coming months (before the next portfolio change?)

at 50% of the port heavily on asset class that are abit sensitive to the interest rate......(which are the trend moving forward)? sad.gif
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China centric and emerging market is very reactive to what Trump say. It is too volatile and hence I discard it for the time being until Trump gets booted out or the market decide to ignore Trump tantrum.

Surprisingly ES Eq Income is very uncorrelated to the other UTF in my port and hence that is why it is there.

On Reits, it is something I have to be more concern with, thank you friend Yklooi for highlighting it.


QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 27 2018, 10:22 AM)
hmm.gif maybe this can helps....Calculating his Portfolio Risk Level
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This calculation of risk is not correct. The proper way is


Now try to do the above manual calculation with ten risky assets. Thank god there is Algozen™ ver four.

BTW, my port risk aka Std-Dev is 4.XX which is lower than that of FSM's balanced fund definition.

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QUOTE(Obi Munchen @ Aug 27 2018, 03:10 PM)
hello to all sifus out here, notworthy.gif

i really need you all advises and opinion. i have to say i'm pretty noobs in this UT investment and my early phase of this UT world didn't seem to go into the right way.

pleasee, what shall i do now?..shall i sell or hold? my portfolio didn't seem very encouraging.
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post Aug 30 2018, 02:08 PM

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Aug 2018 has been a rclxms.gif thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif month for my port.


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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Aug 30 2018, 04:30 PM)
lucky you.
mine seems flattish  yawn.gif
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because none of you UTFs are Algozen™ ver. four approved bye.gif


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post Sep 1 2018, 12:01 PM

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Algozen™ ver four Aug 2018 result is tallied and in.


M-o-M ROI is +ve 1%


12 mths preceding ROI is around one year Maybank boardrate [ i.e. not promo rate ] FD rate. Nothing to shout about, but better than some professionally managed port giving negative return. Out of the 12 mths of tracking, 5 mths made losses, most acute in the Q1 of 2018.

12 mths preceding Std - dev [ an industry standard measurement of risk or volatility ] is 16.10%. Very high. I took on a lot of risk last one year to get that miniscule return. The past one year was a suxs year for capital market no thanks to Tantrum Trump.

Long term std - dev measurement is 12.29% [ 25 mths of tracking ]. This imply that the last one year has been more volatile than the previous.


All I can say was last one year was not easy to make money. Not losing money is win liao.

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