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post Jun 14 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Jun 14 2017, 10:16 AM)
if buy TA Global now which NAV price will it follow? can we bloomberg's price as reference?
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If you buy from bloomberg, you can. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 14 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 14 2017, 10:36 AM)
hmm.gif I would ask.....
1) how does your fund would mitigate the risk of liquidity sell off?
2) any preventive action plan for lessons learnt in Aug 2016?
3) when a fund like Interpac's funds is getting bigger in size, (due to current fantastical performance), how will the fund manager eliminates any possible trouble of buying additional large blocks of the thinly traded shares without driving up the share price and making it more expensive?
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Wow your questions are so acute and critical I am not sure he would be able to handle them. devil.gif
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post Jun 14 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(biastee @ Jun 14 2017, 12:30 PM)
at 12 noon, updated price shows 21.8% drop
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Base on 1:4 split, the price drop should be 20%.

Now it drops to 21.8%, meaning there was a real drop of 1.8% due to stock price erosion.
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post Jun 16 2017, 09:48 AM

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I think whoever wants to say good or bad things about public mutual, he should go to the public mutual thread.

Unless he wants to perform a comparison with facts and data, between FSM and Public mutual fund, then it becomes OK to post it here.

Keeping saying bad things about public mutual in this thread, will be perceived as bashing people behind their back.


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post Jun 16 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 16 2017, 10:13 AM)
Xuzen or anyone,

has anyone did a manual calculation how much TA Global was affected by the tech dips? stupid unit split happened right on the same day it was supposed to update its nav
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The dips seem to span over multiple days but it was probably the heaviest during the day with unit split.

Taking out the unit split factor ( which accounts for 20% dip), it dipped 1.8% on that very day. So the fund manager could be guilty of trying to mask off the dip with a unit split. LOL.

p/s: the FSM graph is able to illustrate the actual dips ( as it is compensated with unit split ).

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post Jun 16 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 16 2017, 10:40 AM)
Haha you know I always think that dividend splits are fund managers "lifelines" to cover up dips.
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The same thing happened to manulife U.S. equity fund isn't it ? Distribution while nav is eroding. blink.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(petit @ Jun 16 2017, 10:54 AM)
According to my calculation, dips from 0.5846 (9th June) to 0.5712 (13th June) is 2.29%
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15th June is -1.22%
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post Jun 16 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jun 16 2017, 03:14 PM)
TAGTF continues its fall on the 15th as well. Its now 0.5646. Drop from 0.5716 yesterday. Day before was 0.5712
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That's why people say track the funds too closely and trying to catch the ups and downs can get burn. If FSM does a promotion on this fund in later June dates, I don't mind topping up. devil.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 14 2017, 10:36 AM)
hmm.gif I would ask.....
1) how does your fund would mitigate the risk of liquidity sell off?
2) any preventive action plan for lessons learnt in Aug 2016?
3) when a fund like Interpac's funds is getting bigger in size, (due to current fantastical performance), how will the fund manager eliminates any possible trouble of buying additional large blocks of the thinly traded shares without driving up the share price and making it more expensive?
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I think these are really good questions for Interpac fund manager. Could someone attending tomorrows event at FSM office, please remember to ask these questions to Mr Lim ? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 16 2017, 08:55 PM)
pales?  confused.gif
isn't it this is a newly launched fund?
without any actual performance record (except from same fh)....
where to get data to determine "pales"  sad.gif
unless you mean the fund size?
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He has this idea that syariah funds will not do as well as the non syariah ones.

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post Jun 16 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 16 2017, 09:19 PM)
That's true. When a fund is non syariah, it can invest in both. If syariah. it's only restricted to syariah which means less choices.
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One aspect of it.

Maybe on the other hand syariah funds attracted investors who can only invest in syariah funds and this make the fund carries certain characteristics which boost fund performance ? Example maybe the fund will be less prone to sudden heavy sell off ?
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post Jun 17 2017, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(ganaesan @ Jun 16 2017, 11:10 PM)
True... So far no syariah funds outperformed conventional funds.
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The interpac dana safi (ytd 43.27%) outperforms interpac dynamic (39.54%) .
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post Jun 17 2017, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(ganaesan @ Jun 16 2017, 11:13 PM)
There won't be sudden heavy sell off of a fund if not for the funds bad performance...
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This is obviously an over simplification. It may account for most cases, but there could be other reasons too.

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post Jun 20 2017, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 20 2017, 08:04 AM)
hmm.gif 1st the unit split then this +1.4%....
should you doubt the power of Xuzen's balls?  brows.gif  innocent.gif

rclxms.gif Avangelice...you now a bit huat liao......you got it in the right time  devil.gif
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Well, I am not doubting Xuzen's ball but even with this 1.4%, it hasn't climbed back up to it's previous peak ( before 9th June ).
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post Jun 20 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 20 2017, 10:07 AM)
how many % from previous peak ( before 9th June ).....?
how long (time) are you willing to give it?
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I did not run or top up during the last dip. So I am giving it infinite amount of time. wink.gif
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post Jun 20 2017, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 20 2017, 08:27 PM)
Excuse me? ASx invest fully in bursa saham. Where did you get the info it have nearly correlation with equities. Why do you think ASx returns have been diminishing over time?  It's because bursa saham have been in bad shape for almost 3 years.
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Even though ASx invests in bursa, it is still possible they have low correlation with other local funds. This maybe due to the way the calculate return. Who knows what magic they put inside the calculation, don't you think so ? devil.gif
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post Jun 21 2017, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jun 21 2017, 06:56 PM)
The value of my ASX is approximately 2.5 times the value of my FSM portfolio. I know that seems a lot but that's where all my savings goes ever since I just started working
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Care to share your average return for the ASX ?
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post Jun 22 2017, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jun 22 2017, 05:14 PM)
i agree.. i bought both at same time. same day.

amasia - 1.79% return
manulife ap - 4.53%... in my portfolio to date.

dun bother with AMASIA.
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This is the most funny thing I observed. I mentioned it before.

If you think AM reits is bad, and so convinced about it, just sell it off. People here keep saying it is bad, yet still keeping it. Then you are not leadership by example. blink.gif
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post Jun 28 2017, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 28 2017, 07:57 AM)
bought TA GTF now keep going down down down~ luckily just abit..
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27th Jun nasdaq went down 1.6%.

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post Jun 28 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 28 2017, 10:22 AM)
OIC,....but then why India and Small Caps funds not mentioned as short term bets? hmm.gif

CIMB GCEF has lower risk rating than EISC and Manulife India
CIMB GCEF has better Risk Return ratio than EISC
CIMB GCEF has comparable risk rating, Risk Return and Volatility % with Manulife India
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India and China funds are for long term as they are big countries with big population and huge internal market.

Malaysian small cap - a small country with tiny smallcap market size. EISC is any time higher risk and more speculative than the other two equity funds.

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