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puchongite
post May 26 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(voyage23 @ May 26 2017, 08:44 PM)
This product is just not for you. But it could be a game changer for other people. Don't have to be aggressive about it. Can direct your frustration to FSM.  smile.gif
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Two things you got it wrong here.

I am not being aggressive. I am just saying it is not making sense.

Second thing. I am also not frustrated. Why would I be frustrated ?



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post May 27 2017, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(ganaesan @ May 26 2017, 10:49 PM)
Dude, what we are doing here is sharing knowledge and learning from others...

You don't hv to be so harsh on my explanation..

Statements like yours turning people off from sharing
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I said you are biased in your argument and I substantiated it.

When FSM decided on some strategies for it's own good you defend for it without showing it on a fair ground.

This is a public forum where everyone can publish their views as long as they try to support it.

Feel free to defend that you are not biased. I have not asked you to go away or shut up. Why is that harsh ?
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post May 27 2017, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(kswee @ May 27 2017, 08:52 AM)
KUALA LUMPUR (May 26): PIE Industrial Bhd's net profit jumped 5.5 times to RM11.59 million in its first quarter ended March 31, 2017 (1QFY17) from RM2.1 million a year ago, thanks to higher revenue and higher foreign currency exchange gain.

The improved profitability was also due to the reversal of slow-moving inventory, its Bursa Malaysia filing today showed.

"However, the increase in profit was partly limited by higher operating expenses and higher provision for doubtful debts," it said.

Revenue grew 35% to RM161.87 million from RM119.73 million, as it reported higher demand from existing customers for electronics manufacturing, and raw wire and cable products.

Looking forward, PIE Industrial expects revenue to grow steadily this year with increasing orders from existing customers and ongoing new projects with potential customers.

Hence, it will "ceaselessly strengthen its vertical integration of manufacturing capability and maintain sufficient manufacturing capacity to cater to outsourcing orders from new and existing customers", it added.

However, it said the fluctuating foreign exchange rates and labour shortage would continue to affect its future earnings.

Nevertheless, it said it should achieve a satisfactory performance for FY17.

PIE Industrial shares closed unchanged at RM2.34 today, valuing the cable and wire manufacturer at RM898.66 million.
InterPac Dynamic Equity Fund Top Holdings,
1 United Uli-Corporation Bhd 6.11
2 P.I.E Industrial Berhad 5.42
3 ES Ceramics Technology Bhd 5.22
4 IQ Group Holdings Berhad 5.15
5 Elsoft Research Berhad 4.82
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Where do you get the holdings from ? If it is from the old fact sheet, it might be obsoleted.
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post May 27 2017, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 27 2017, 12:17 PM)
what is the FSM managed UT portfolio for aggressive?
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FSM is charging you 0.5% p.a. platform fees and >1% one time subscription charge for it, you think they want to reveal it to you ?
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post May 27 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 27 2017, 12:39 PM)
currently having some sitting in CMF....
thinking of using this RM10k to go into it just for "fun"
thinking of moderately aggressive at 30%FI:70%EQ
no mgmt. fees only 1% subscription fees
no platform fees for the 30%FI

what says you guys
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Since you appear to be cash ready, why don't you do two, one self managed, one managed by FSM, and tell us the result from time to time ...... rclxms.gif
puchongite
post May 28 2017, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 28 2017, 01:22 PM)
Not sure if this is useful or not.....
Not sure if this is an apple to apple comparison...
with not so much different in % of returns since 2008/2009 (approximate 8 yrs) but a lot of different in % of FI allocation.....

you tell me which one is more bang for the money.....ok?
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post May 28 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 28 2017, 02:21 PM)
with what ratio for a better optimum results?
for it looks like highest EQ % may not worth it for the risk it takes

what would the optimum ratio would you suggest?
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I am not sure if I read the results correctly. The most aggressive port only gives <7% annualized return. cry.gif

Is it that because HK/SG the % return is generally less ?

Does not seem very correct.

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post May 29 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 29 2017, 09:21 AM)
I am tempted to open one beneficiary account and pump in 10k and do my usual diy stuff then compare to those ports managed under FSM. Problem is who is going to share the returns made from managed ports after a year.
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Have to match the risk profile first. Only make sense if both same risk level.

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post May 29 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 29 2017, 10:38 AM)
i think they will periodically publish the results of the portfolios performance in the web....
FSM SG, FSM HK had been doing it....

will try to do a simple top up most probably next few days once after the buy in process had been completed to see if it is possible to do top up of RM 1k....
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Question is that the results of the portfolios performance it is inclusive of the fees or not inclusive ?

Most likely I would say it will not be inclusive of the fees. So your actual paper gain in your port might be less than the published one on the web.
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post May 29 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 29 2017, 11:28 AM)
like most of the result...it would be EXCLUDING fees..
1 yr 0.5% ...10 yrs 5%....just deduct the % from the total returns....
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Deduct also the one time charge.
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post May 29 2017, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(ssajnani @ May 29 2017, 12:07 PM)
Hi Mr Xuzen,

Do you find it odd that Manulife India price didnt change from 24th and 25th? Cos the price of the index went up quite a bit on 24th and 25th (the shares in Manulife also went up many around 2-3%).
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25th maybe trading day but according to someone ( which I did not go to verify ) it is a fund holiday. So maybe the local office is off.

p/s: India Nav on 26th increased 2.76%, so they accumulated the gain over the two days.

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post May 29 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 29 2017, 03:00 PM)
How can they be correlated (ponzi 2 and amasia)? One invest in equity and there's nothing mentioned in the factsheet about property. One invest only in reits. Amasia invest 20%+ in Japan while Ponzi 2 doesn't have any Japan holdings.
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Correlated based on mathematics lar, no need to offer you the reason why they are correlated. brows.gif
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post May 29 2017, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 29 2017, 03:09 PM)
Wah if based on mathematics, macam mana nak kira? Ada formula atau proprietary formula?
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Google before Xuzen scolds you. devil.gif
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post May 31 2017, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 31 2017, 09:02 AM)
May has always been considered the seasonal slump of markets.
Hence the popular saying "Sell in May and go away".
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So this is like studying correlation, as long as there is a correlation, the reason why is left for human to figure out.
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post May 31 2017, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 31 2017, 09:04 AM)
Do You Sell In May And Go Away?

There is an old adage that gets a lot of attention at this time of the year - "Sell in May and Go Away".
This strategy typically means for investors to sell their equities in May and get back into the stock market in November so as to avoid the volatile period from May to October.
In this week's Idea of the Week, we present to investors our findings on why they should stay invested in May and for the long-term.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-May-2014--4587
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That seems to only study the primary indices

Maybe the "Sell in May and Go Away" is more accurate with respect to the more volatile and speculative indices such as the small cap index ?
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post May 31 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 31 2017, 10:02 AM)
I think Sell in May and go away is based on the generalization that Q1, you have the strong results of last Q4. Q2 is where demand slow down, and Q3 is where companies ramp up to meet seasonal demand in Q4. So you have a slump during mid year of cycle
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https://www.investing.com/indices/ftse-mala...historical-data

Based on this limited data, it isn't true :-

Heavy losses happened to

Aug 15
Jan 16


May 17 17,240.32 17,709.36 17,984.55 17,225.97 - -2.39%
Apr 17 17,661.72 17,112.42 17,676.24 17,042.77 - 3.40%
Mar 17 17,080.58 15,749.03 17,080.58 15,741.78 - 8.35%
Feb 17 15,763.92 15,454.80 16,236.96 15,451.46 - 2.18%
Jan 17 15,428.28 14,714.56 15,436.49 14,709.07 - 4.84%
Dec 16 14,715.51 14,378.13 14,786.35 14,290.85 - 2.68%
Nov 16 14,331.50 15,342.21 15,385.81 14,281.92 - -6.61%
Oct 16 15,345.71 15,402.35 15,548.96 15,313.65 - -0.32%
Sep 16 15,394.33 15,193.37 15,499.24 15,052.74 - 1.53%
Aug 16 15,163.02 15,330.43 15,776.16 15,097.35 - -1.10%
Jul 16 15,332.06 15,088.58 15,487.20 14,983.72 - 1.60%
Jun 16 15,090.79 15,244.85 15,484.91 14,673.22 - -1.20%
May 16 15,274.40 15,409.35 15,535.74 15,176.26 - -0.99%
Apr 16 15,426.91 15,613.36 15,812.86 15,359.72 - -1.17%
Mar 16 15,609.69 15,088.04 15,634.67 14,931.60 - 3.25%
Feb 16 15,118.90 15,042.40 15,617.99 14,860.96 - 0.51%
Jan 16 15,042.56 15,961.92 16,141.65 14,815.99 - -5.65%
Dec 15 15,944.13 15,668.20 16,021.91 15,441.96 - 1.88%
Nov 15 15,650.21 15,685.98 16,042.88 15,603.20 - -0.22%
Oct 15 15,683.96 14,701.35 15,788.38 14,687.89 - 6.87%
Sep 15 14,675.94 13,823.87 14,899.48 13,605.36 - 6.57%
Aug 15 13,771.15 16,076.89 16,086.26 13,116.30 - -14.31%
Jul 15 16,071.31 15,809.28 16,229.37 15,209.30 - 2.00%
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post May 31 2017, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 31 2017, 10:28 AM)
Haha, you don't have to convince us. There is no hard truth in anything. It is all situational.
If there is one fixed truth, we'd be all making money by following this fixed way.
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You don't believe it but there maybe others who believe it and that's why FSM took the trouble to write the article(s).

And for me I pull it out from the net, it is just an effortless posting.

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post May 31 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kukuray @ May 31 2017, 11:00 AM)
i sold all and cash out last week. profit taking. fund goes back FD and wait for time to enter again
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Haha that's "Sell in May and go away" put to practice.
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post May 31 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 31 2017, 02:18 PM)
Although this is a singaporean investment blog, the authors write about malaysian stocks as well as they also invest in malaysian stocks.
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Ramjade is so well delved into every areas of money.

Sg, my, stock, bitcoin, gold, forex, ut, ......except for money game rclxms.gif
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post May 31 2017, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ May 31 2017, 04:45 PM)
Interesting

So no more love for India? AIF I can understand why, it's the kind of fund that do well in turmoil but not when the market is going up.

And welcome home jaguh kampung  thumbsup.gif

Personal view, not supported with quant evidence - I'd swap REITs and maybe half of EMB for a AP EQ fund, in this case ponzi 2.0 is more suitable than ponzi 1.0
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REITS and EMB are still the "old wine" in this new bottle.

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