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post Aug 25 2018, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Aug 25 2018, 11:05 AM)
Does anyone have any information on whether FSM has any provisions for nominating a beneficiary or something in the event of the fundholder's death like with EPF?
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Just open a beneficiary account and nominate that person. Even if one doesn't, upon death the UT will be liquidated and proceeds given to the estate.
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post Aug 25 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 25 2018, 02:46 PM)
Selina reits

It may seem conservative but that is where the best risk optimized return portfolio lies at the moment.

This ties in well because you will notice for the past three quarters the market has been very volatile and Algozen™ ver four is written to penalize high volatility.

Xuzen
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1) How did you know when to change your portfolio to a conservative one? Is it 1 or 2 or 3 months into the downturn?

2) Is there transactional costs that you incur when you change your port? Did you incur inter or intra switching costs? Or time costs when you switch from equity of UT fund A into bond of fund A, then bond of fund B and finally equity UT of fund B.

3) How long are you going to stay with your conservertive port? How do you know when to switch?

4) Why did you go into TA Global Technology Fund when it is so volatile is it because of performance?

5) How do you define pokemon style? Is it more than 6 UT types? Is it 8 types? Why limit yourself to 4 types of UTs?

6) Is pokemon style really bad? The transactional costs of monitoring and comparing the different UTs performance against each other with fundsupermart is so low and can be done easily. There is "chart center" and "fund selector" which allows one to easily compare. All these can be done within less than 30 mins once or twice a year.


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post Aug 25 2018, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 25 2018, 05:33 PM)
you let got all dinasti ar...
I don't know want to let go or not... I sense something is near in oct. this Trump really make out port gg.

Pokemon manager keep making loss owh. I sudah pening.

big cap punya boleh caya ka. budget incoming yeo
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There are 2 big factors. Trump investigations and the Nov US House of representative and senate elections. Let's wait and see. BTW the Asian markets are moving up recently due to the news of trump being implicated.
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post Aug 25 2018, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 25 2018, 10:27 PM)
Previously...he did mentioned he has wrap a/c....thus free switching anytime any funds
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Sorry what is wrap account? Anyway I can get that?
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post Aug 25 2018, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 25 2018, 10:40 PM)
I am currently not on a pc.....cannot google.
I think ifast has it....maybe kenwealth also...
But i think have to pay annual subsciption fees.
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No worries I will do that. Thanks for the info.
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post Aug 26 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 25 2018, 11:07 PM)
There is no transactional cost for my port because I use wrap account.

I will stay with this port fomposition until Jan 2019. Algozen™ ver four will tell me plus I have been using UTF since 2005 as a wealth management tool, I have a certain flair, a certain je ne sais quoi so to speak.

TA tech has been my alpha for a long long time. I think I have it in my port composition since 2015. It has brought me joy and happiness. TA Tech is not that volatile lah! Try China fund for comparison and see...

I think above six UTFs is considered Pokemon style already.

Pokemon style = dilute your alpha. You earn peanuts here and there... no syiok factor.

Xuzen
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Correct me if I am wrong, you are optimising the 1) risk and return 2) min the correlation between the different UTs in your portfolio?

Very impressive approach than intuitive way. Did you compare the algozen performance with other approaches?

I too invested in TA tech. Good performance for me so far.

I have also looked at morning star and the correlation analysis it produces. What other resources or anything else I missed.? I just started investing in Mar this year.
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post Aug 26 2018, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 26 2018, 11:10 AM)
Yes, you are right. I proudly declare I am a follower of Markowitz's Modern Portfolio Theory.

Algozen™ ver four did not lose money vis-a-vis FSM Managed portfolio. Admitedly the return has been lacklustre but at least she did not lose money. The case is different with FSM managed portfolio given the grievences laid bare by the participants here.

And why it is so darn difficult to make money for the past 3 quarters? Trump lah... he is a pariah leader, one day talk like this, the next day can go 180 degrees U-turn without thinking of consequences. He thinks the world revolves around him. He has the ego the size of Jupiter.

You have the data from morningstar. But what you are missing is the algorthm to assist you make the decision. What you have is just raw data. You cannot use raw data without an algorithm to make the data useful.

Xuzen
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Most people just copy and paste your portfolio biggrin.gif

Having seen your port; can I say there are just 4 broad classes of UTs that are not strongly correlated to each other:

1) the US camp (eg TA Tech, Global Titans, etc)

2) the China camp (eg Asia-pacific UT funds, KGF, etc all tend to follow China. If China shares goes up, all the Asian shares also goes up and vice versa)?


3) other asset classes like Reits where they don't quite behave like 1 and 2.
4) ofc bond funds.


BTW, lets wait till Nov election - if democrats win big, trump may not last and we are on the way to big win thumbup.gif

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post Aug 27 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 27 2018, 08:31 AM)
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President Trump said the stock market would crash “everybody would be very poor” if he was ever impeached in a new interview.

“If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash,” he said said in a Fox and Friends interview that aired Thursday.
“I think everybody would be very poor. Because without this thinking you would see – you would see numbers that you wouldn’t believe in reverse.”

He also said: “I don’t know how you can impeach somebody who’s done a great job.”
http://time.com/5375858/donald-trump-marke...sh-impeachment/

devil.gif   innocent.gif  rclxub.gif
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Only the US stocks would crash temporarily, new regime in the US is likely not to be so crazy with the trade war. So most of the stocks in the world will rise after the dust has settled.

BTW Stocks crashing will not impact on a companies abilities to pay their debts. These companies will continue to earn money selling products and services. So not to worry.


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post Aug 27 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2018, 11:59 AM)
he being eliminated does that mean CN unofficially win the war?
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LOL, no one wins in a trade war everybody loses. OFC China and US will package it to somehow of accommodating each other.
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post Aug 27 2018, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Aug 27 2018, 12:24 PM)
There are about 250 UTFs in the FSM universe. My first step is to select the top ten most desirable UTFs and this is based on what I read and understand from various media sources including reports from the various Fund Houses. This is the part which is subjective and is solely based on my biased opinion and personal gut feel. This part takes a certain je ne sais quoi.

Out of these ten short-listed candidate I will throw them into Algozen™ ver four and let her do the computation. Then I will use her to churn out various scenario & outcome. This is the analytical part. Pure computational work. Too tedious for human to  do it, only a computer can do it.

Then of the many outcomes that are churned out, I will select the outcome that in my opinion, which I am most comfortable with. Again, this is based on personal experience. So, if let say I choose outcome A, and suddenly the world changes with some new info that will move the market wildly, I will already have in my library outcome B, C, D... so forth and I can quickly change my port accordingly. That is why I rarely lose money. Lackluster ROI yes, lose money no, except in this 2018... in the 12 preceding month of tracking, my port made 5 months of lost and that is a record for my port. Prior to 2018, I rarely lose money. But prior to this, we do not have a mad Trump to disturb the market. But nonetheless, the port as a whole made money 12 mths preceding.
China centric and emerging market is very reactive to what Trump say. It is too volatile and hence I discard it for the time being until Trump gets booted out or the market decide to ignore Trump tantrum.

Surprisingly ES Eq Income is very uncorrelated to the other UTF in my port and hence that is why it is there.

On Reits, it is something I have to be more concern with, thank you friend Yklooi for highlighting it.
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Thanks Xuzen for laying out your methodology and also caveats in your approach.
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post Aug 27 2018, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Obi Munchen @ Aug 27 2018, 03:10 PM)
hello to all sifus out here, notworthy.gif

i really need you all advises and opinion. i have to say i'm pretty noobs in this UT investment and my early phase of this UT world didn't seem to go into the right way.

pleasee, what shall i do now?..shall i sell or hold? my portfolio didn't seem very encouraging.
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I think you should hold. You just suffering paper loss due to an orange at the white house. When he is gone, those china stocks will pull you ahead. You portfolio looks very aggressive and concentrated into asia.

I also notice you did not diversify into

1) US stocks. US stocks is having a bull run and should have helped your port stabilise a bit. Or alternatively you can invest in global shariah compliant funds which tends to focus on the US anyway.
2) you might want to go into islamic bonds eg rhb islamic bonds also.
3) might want to look also at other shariah compliant malaysian equity that is less volatile than interpac dana safi and pmb shariah aggresive.

The most important question is this: are you happy with this aggresive port? In good times, it will be number 1 but in bad times it will also be number last with heavy losses. We are now in a trade crisis. Can you wait till good times? If yes, just hold and wait. If not you make a mistake in not matching your risk profile.

A) go to fundsupermart and find out US and Malaysian shariah compliant UT funds. Find a high sharpe ratio.

A) Go to https://my.Morningstar.com/ap/main/default.aspx

Register yourself and try the xray analysis of your new port. You want to find funds that do not correlate with each other. Remember to change to myr at the link see page 255 of this.


Remember to DCA when rebalancing. I am also not sure it is a good time to buy the overpriced US funds. When Trump leaves or get impeach, US funds will sure take a beating.

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post Aug 27 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2018, 06:36 PM)
this also after +7% in recent week
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I read the annual report and found these facts

1) IDS has 15 shariah stocks only. For a unit trust fund,i find it under diversified to my liking. At a min, i think should hold 30 or more stocks. And this info should be made clearly stated up front in the description so that investors are aware and can diversify and put less weightage into this fund.

2) adding to the volatility, some of these stocks are in the ace market. None of the stocks are blue chip stocks.

3) anothing thing, this fund concentrate on a few sectors only, technology, trading etc. If i were to invest, i would diversify into healthcare, education, financial services, construction, oil and gas etc.

With 1+2+3, one can guarantee this fund can icon_question.gif bangwall.gif when things go bad.

Some stock sifus can check the stocks and give more detail info.

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post Aug 27 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Aug 27 2018, 07:58 PM)
My investment since November 2017.

It is - 6.49% so far.

Haizzzz

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Your port would make China very happy bruce.gif

Except for AH Japan, IDS, KGF, and TA tech. All are concentrated in the greater china region. Are you happy with this?
Just wait for Trump to be kicked out. Your port will improve even if you do nothing,

If not, you want to move away from China, like invest as part of your diversification into India, or US. Or play around the correlation to invest into funds that is not correlated with your port now. See my post on the morningstar xray analysis. You can also start thinking of bond funds?

Another thing is the IDS funds, see my previous post, this fund is just too risky for me. You might want to reduce your weightage once this fund recovers.

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post Aug 27 2018, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 27 2018, 10:08 PM)
Agree, bond fund so far are being on a safe bet.
How if trump remains its presidency?

Anyways, the fundamental of GC, AExJP are strong, it will eventually bounce back for sure.

The ids....err...no comment la

I tot last time you ad let go ids? Cannot pakai la this ids. where can a UT labelled as "golden goose"
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Nov elections in the US is key. If democrats win big, we rclxm9.gif .

Otherwise, aiyoh .... we will be in for a long bangwall.gif especially those with China heavy ports.
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Aug 28 2018, 03:39 PM)
Top up also got sales charge ka?  hmm.gif 

Firstimer user here  sweat.gif
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Yes
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:24 PM

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I am buying Asia Pacific, Singapore, India and the reits. I got to practice what I peach.
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(yageosamsung @ Aug 28 2018, 01:20 PM)
Hello Sifus,
now we have the 0.57% SC discount for 4 days....

Ref. to my funds holding below, my plan is to continue top up based on these geographical sector for September,
- Malaysia : Kenaga Growth Fund
- Asia Pacific: CIMB Dynamic Income Fund
- Emerging Market: Eastspring GEM

p/s: I do not have US and India allocation in my portfolio and I also would like to get them actually.... but at this moment I think it is too late to top up on US related funds now...

the plan is to hold these funds for at least 2 more years.

How do you guys think?

TQ.
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You might consider the am Asia reits or manulife reits, or even India.

I am not so sure it matters if you buy US now if you hold it very long. Say you buy 6% more expensive, over 10 years that would not make it not more than 0.7%ish(?) after taking effect of compounding. Over 20 years, it would not be significant anyway.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 28 2018, 05:09 PM)
:confused:  :confused:  :confused:

US seems very overprice for now

nov big thing

oh no.... this few days gonna crack my head.
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Lol that's why some people say forget about timing the market just invest when one has the money. But to us every 0.01% counts, lol. We are kiasu people.
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post Aug 28 2018, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Aug 28 2018, 05:04 PM)
Damn it, I just topped up yesterday.

Edit: just talked to the agent, he can't do anything at all. Completely useless.

Can someone provide me with a list of promotions that I should keep an eye on throughout the year? Other than the usual fund of the month?
First year in FSM here, I really hate to top one day and then next day got promotion.
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I never tried this but can you void your transactions and then buy again? If it is from your cash account, just email them to cancel.

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