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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Feb 14 2017, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 14 2017, 12:30 AM)
How to compound in UT? Market fluctuates, so at NAV RM1, your 1000 units worth RM1000 today. 5 years down the road with crazy ups and downs, on Feb 2022 the NAV somehow at RM1.10, but your units still maintain 1000 units, which only worth RM1100... am I missing something here?
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hmm.gif I think I found the missing thing....those extra units from distributions...... biggrin.gif

blush.gif I know what you are try to say and meant...I was just trying to be funny and sorry to have pulled your leg notworthy.gif

how to have the desired predetermined ROIs at a desired horizons when there are so many General Risks of Investing in Unit Trust Funds
http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/Investor_...rust_Funds.aspx
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post Feb 14 2017, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 14 2017, 08:57 AM)
There are many funds which do not distribute units...? For example CIMB Greater China, Manulife US
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thanks for the info but then,
does it make any different?
this still applicable.....
http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/Investor_...rust_Funds.aspx

Distribution in UT is Left pocket out Right pocket in.

but perhaps should I change the wording from
I think I found the missing thing....those extra units from distributions
to
I think I may have found the missing thing....those extra units from distributions

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post Feb 14 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 14 2017, 09:00 AM)
I guess for those funds, you have to enter and take your profit at the right time.
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hmm.gif Shouldn't this be applicable to ALL funds instead of those funds?
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post Feb 14 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 14 2017, 09:18 AM)
But like you said right, in his scenario, over time the fund has distributions and he accumulated more units. So even when the NAV grows back, it grows back with compound interest via the additional units he posses.

But with no distributions and re-invest, then the value of his investment is solely depending on NAV. So even when the fund starts to go up, it would be with his 1000 units. Do correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also learning.
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For funds that has no distribution...there suppose to hv nav growth. Thus accunulation of growth in nav. The nav growth accunulation over the yrs is the buffer to correction or dips.
To me for the funds that has distribution.....the extra units accumulated is the buffer.
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post Feb 14 2017, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Feb 14 2017, 01:23 PM)
HI Sifus,

Its been a while I use fundsupermart, generally i just put there and never look at it
Current holding

Affin Hwang Select Asia (Ex Japan) Quantum Fund              50% of the capital
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR      25% of the capital
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund                                      25% of the capital

My invested capital little, plan to up a little, any suggestion sifus?
Or should i top up the Affin Hwang quantum fund?
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quick general summary view is that you have
75% in Asia Pac
8% in US
8% in Japan
8% in Europe.

you wanna top up Asia pac again?

try consider some % in Gold, commodities, India and Technology?
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post Feb 14 2017, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(frankzane @ Feb 14 2017, 01:48 PM)
Can please recommend which fund that invests in Gold and commodities?
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try use the FSM fund selector tool?
btw, i don't like those fund...my heart cannot take it.
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post Feb 15 2017, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(imnotabot @ Feb 14 2017, 11:25 PM)
I filled-in the excel spreadsheet in the first page, and this is what I got.  smile.gif
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from the chart of above post...the below proposed fund is logical thumbsup.gif
btw, how come your chart did not show M'sia Eq allocation %? it did show M'sia FI %.

QUOTE(imnotabot @ Feb 14 2017, 04:34 PM)
I don't think so. tongue.gif
Never mind then. Other than India, is it worth investing in greater china? For example, how about this fund: Eastspring Investments Dinasti Equity Fund?
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from the above proposed fund, the below proposed weightage is also logical thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 14 2017, 05:24 PM)
that is also in Asia Pac....but can supplement yr existing CIMB Islamic Asia Pacific ex Japan Fund...can put less than 5~8% in there?
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post Feb 15 2017, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 15 2017, 09:08 AM)
will go for Eastspring Global Leaders fund after I see the fund factsheet.

I alrdy have Titan, KGF, ES Small Cap in my basket.

any comment on this fund ?
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Yes.go for it you dont hv global fund in yr portfolio..do have a note on its US %....for you hv GTF......in short taje note of its total weightage
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post Feb 15 2017, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Feb 15 2017, 09:02 AM)
Haha no no. What I mean is UT agents usually can recommend limited choices of funds depends on what fund houses they represent. And there are other funds that can easily top them in term of past performances history. So these multi millionaires people, of all people should know this fact right.

There are UT companies that I know they like to target these high net worth people. Maybe they don't have time to DIY their own UT portfolio and leverage on UT agents.
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maybe...just maybe Some would got for it
1) as play money
2) hv a pretty face to chat when bored
3) hope to get invited to mire gathers of hnwis...for networking
4) a form of diversification
5) being asked to buy from customers...you help me i help u
6) etc
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post Feb 15 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 15 2017, 09:14 AM)
I don't have a global fund. Sifu Xuzen also advised me to go for this fund if using epf monies.

will go for this fund later.

thanks again.  cool2.gif
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I would personalky use the epf as fi fund
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post Feb 15 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 15 2017, 09:20 AM)
Oic.

I wish to have a global fund but that s d only global fund in recommended list. Hmmm...

any global fund to consider ?
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Hyuummp, since it is in the fsm recommended list, who am i to recommend another...i don't dare to go against them....
Ok joke aside...give it a try for a few years...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 09:23 AM)
Some prefer manulife US/TA global tech over a global fund.
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TAGlobal tech has a more controlled mandate nainly focused on 1 area....not that diversified.
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post Feb 15 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(cjseng @ Feb 15 2017, 12:25 PM)
Hi Sifu's here,

I'm really new in FSM or perhaps is investment topic I should said.

My last unit trust was selling off with lost back in year 2008 sad.gif. I'm no longer young anymore.

I has a goal for kids education let say looking for averaging ~10% - 15% return pa for the next 10 years. Of course some risk concern in mind that do not want to destroy kids education fund which end up with lose or return even lower than normal 3-4% market FD rate in next 10 years time.

I'm planning to kick-off with small amount and monthly regulated deposit for years to come.

What is the best or recommended portfolio that suit to my objective?

I'm open for any other advice, appreaciate and many thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 12:27 PM)
follow FSM's conservative portfolio or Xuzen very low risk portfolio since he is also saving for his children.

AmAsia REITs.
Rhb emerging Bond
Ponzi 2.0
Esther fund
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 15 2017, 12:29 PM)
He don't use ponzi 2. He only buy Ponzi 2 for PRS. He include in india and Tech.
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hmm.gif just be careful....with this ~10% - 15% return p.a
for there is a possibility of 3-4% or less as feared for some years...


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post Feb 15 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 15 2017, 02:06 PM)
well it's a risk I am willing to take. rather than putting this cash into fd
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yes you are...but is he?
10~15% pa wor...isn't that a bit too optimistic?


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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 04:45 PM)
Another silly question. To be eligible for the PRS Youth thing. (Yes, I'm still young.) It's stated there gross contribution needs to be RM1000.
However, if we put in RM1000 for the first time, service charge and administration fees would be deducted from the gross sum giving a nett investment amount of less than RM1000. In such instance, do I need to top up to make the gross amount RM1000 so that I would be eligible for the incentive?
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PRS in FSM is 0% SC.
admins fees and other charges is in the NAVs
only PPA a/c opening fees is charge able.
see PRS FAQs
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/1...cheme-PRS--8865
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QUOTE(skynode @ Feb 15 2017, 08:39 PM)
Where to get the FSM fund codes from?  Need to include them in my excel.
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after doing Step 1....


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post Feb 16 2017, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(idyllrain @ Feb 16 2017, 09:46 AM)
Hmm, the original snapshot code was from Polarzbearz. Anyhow, here are the fixes. Since you probably already have data in your files, you should fix this yourself with the following instructions (it's easy, so don't worry).

Fixing Instructions: Part A
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

That should fix the error that you saw. Now if you click on the "Capture Snapshot Only" button again you might see another error. This should be another easy fix (see Part B)

Fixing Instructions: Part B
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I've only tested on Excel 2011, you can try the same fixes on Excel 2016. Let me know if you encounter issues.

Updated files if you want to start fresh (I recommend you apply the fixes above rather than having to reenter all your data again):
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aiyh can you pls update these 2 files into Post# 1?
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post Feb 16 2017, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 16 2017, 07:38 PM)
Now market hot, so many new faces come and share share victorious war stories.

Good good!

When market down like during early of 2016, tak tahu semua pegi mana?

Xuzen
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with so many periodic display/reports/data/results/news of Profits/gains......by forummers here for the past 1 months....I guess many also interested to get some thing to eat too.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 16 2017, 09:04 PM)
Wowzers!!! Btw we still got much room - China, India and Australia are looking good. China has very low P/E ratios.
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hmm.gif China had been on low PE for many years already wor.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 16 2017, 09:19 PM)
I know, but the expectation is changing right about now. Reflation has hit China. That's what's changed.
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yes,...hope tis time, the mkts is just going to stay up for longer duration.......hope that Trump's promise of tax cuts can materialise as expected in the next few weeks....else

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