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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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lee82gx
post Jan 25 2021, 10:07 PM

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I always loved FSM red packets. They are the highest quality and artwork.
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post Jan 26 2021, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(bluetomato @ Jan 26 2021, 10:35 AM)
Anyone invested in NikoArm Disruptive fund SGD? biggest holding is Tesla approximate 9% of their fund portfolio.
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That is actually the mother / target fund ARKK, holding 9% tesla.

I have invested. So...are you in or out?


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post Jan 26 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 26 2021, 10:01 AM)
sadly they only give like 1-2 packet for each member
super duper limited
so i don't use it, i keep it and only use for very special occasion
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Ya, but this year one with bull year, perhaps I will distribute if got chance.

I remember some of the yester years come with no animal sign and those really I keep for special occasions. Reminds me of my dear late aunt who loved keeping red packets for their designs.

In HK I remember you can walk by stalls by the road that peddles red packets with all sorts of design, artwork and messages.
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(bluetomato @ Jan 26 2021, 11:55 AM)
Been in since a week ago or so , Been contemplating to top up more , currently up by 5.5% or so?

Am also invested in JP morgans tech fund for china as well as Malaysia Titan fund.
What are your personal recommended holding periods for tech funds such as these?
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Will hold until Cathy Wood step down or going to step down.

You should really know what you are investing in. Tesla to me is really a banner to attract but I'm a believer in the rest of the 91% of the holdings.

I am doing dca.
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post Jan 26 2021, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 26 2021, 03:42 PM)
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Unit split for United Global Technology Fund - MYR dated 26 jan 2021

2:1 (every 1 unit held on the entitlement date will be split into 2 units)

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This is nbtd by fund manager....
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post Jan 26 2021, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 26 2021, 03:51 PM)
I know,
But good fund after that will up up lagi 😁😁😁
After split cheap ma.....
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Hahaha...
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post Jan 27 2021, 09:19 PM

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aiya, you all sit in whole day, they already put a lot of money in your pocket edi. Just dump 10k and in 1 day can get 100 edi...lol
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post Jan 29 2021, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Jan 29 2021, 11:23 AM)
i think don't need to worry when the fund is global.
This problem seen in local mandated fund. Take KGF, huge fund but only mandated for KLSE....small pond. No opportunities hence underperform.
If your fund is global...its a big pond...plenty of opportunities and your RM is peanuts change when go to US.
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I see the other problem being prs or epf linked. They usually adopt a risk averse strategy when approved for epf or linked to prs.

Of course local funds are soo limited in options, and epf by themselves are the biggest driver (slow and steady....not always both).
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post Jan 30 2021, 09:31 AM

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China has backed down from ATH, somewhat.
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post Feb 3 2021, 02:55 PM

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Guys, we get it. There are benefits and wonders if exposed to the fsm sg. But to most of us it is not a direct avenue....come on...two completely separate systems. Can I say also if you are based in sg, your dollars katuk also very much harder than myr.
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post Feb 3 2021, 04:13 PM

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Actually I'm sorry i trully apologise, do continue to discuss fsm sg stuff, should not restrict speech and open our minds a bit more.

Its often thru this discussions that new ideas come out.
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post Feb 4 2021, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 4 2021, 11:30 AM)
Interesting thought. What is it about FB that you don't like ?
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Ya lo. Right now any faang purchased over last year is gold. Next year should be silver. But still outperform.
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post Feb 6 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(tschng @ Feb 6 2021, 10:10 AM)
Affin Hwang World Series – Next Generation Technology Fund is an open-ended wholesale feeder fund that ultimately feeds into the BlackRock Global Funds - Next Generation Technology Fund.

May I know what it means "wholesale feeder fund"
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Wholesale means you need bigger investments per transaction. Like rm5k, usd1k, rm10k etc. Instead of rm100, rm1000 etc.

Feeder fund means affin just take your money and buy the Blackrock next gen technology fund with your money, exclusively. They don't actively manage (buy and sell) anything.


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post Feb 7 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Feb 7 2021, 12:23 PM)
No matter which angle i see it, FSM Managed Portfolio trumps investing through RM.
1. lower starting fees
2. Actively managed port vs initial start up advice.
3. Flexible port that adapts to economic outlook vs still having to manually adapt according to RM advice ...if the RM still contacts you after sale (and potentially having to pay further inter switching fees)
4. access to multiple fund house. RM usually push their own bank products

i still find DIY more satisfying smile.gif
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I was typing a similar post but just +1 this easier.

The only thing for the rm is if you really like to listen to him, and you really don't want to do homework. Like once in a few months monitoring, reading up, rebalanced, top up etc.

Eventually, the ultimate cost is loss of returns when you consider the best fund house is limited to what they can do internally vs an open market of funds.
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QUOTE(yycclin @ Feb 7 2021, 09:12 PM)
Hi all,  i attached my portfolio here for discussion,  do i need to adjust any percentage ?  Any possible improvement ? Tks.
        Fund                                                                %
1 Affin Hwang Select AP (Ex Jpn) Balanced Fund - MYR 1.3
2 Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive        5.5
3  Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged                                15.0
4 AmChina A-Shares - MYR Hedged                        5.3
5 Manulife China Equity Fund                                        6.2
6 Manulife Dragon Growth Fund - MYR Hedged        10.7
7 Manulife Investment Greater China Fund                1.2
8 Pheim Asia Ex-Japan Fund                                        1.2
9 PMB Shariah Growth Fund                                        10.8
10 Precious Metals Securities                                        6.0
11 RHB China India Dynamic Growth Fund                  7.0
12 RHB Gold And General Fund                                2.5
13 RHB Gold Fund - MYR                                                7.0
14 RHB Shariah China Focus Fund - MYR                        6.2
15 RHB-GS US Equity Fund                                        3.5
16 TA Global Technology Fund                                        1.3
17 United Global Quality Equity Fund - MYR Hedged        3.2
18 United Global Technology Fund - MYR                          2.3
19 United Global Technology Fund - MYR Hedged        1.3
20 United Golden Opportunity Fund - MYR Hedged        6.0
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This will end up like a world fund in the long run. You need to review the concept of alpha.
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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Feb 7 2021, 10:42 PM)
Samesame. Alibaba, Tencent, Taiwan Semi. The big three everyone has in itΒ΄s portfolio, big or small. As usual with all these Ex Japan Asians. Yeah, running good at the moment, I hold all these stocks, but if one fund loses, all other will do the exactly same. You need to diversify. And maybe ask yourself the question if you not can do these totally basic stock investments, the three mentioned plus Ping An, AIA, Samsung, BYD ... by yourself.

In my opinion a unit trust where you pay sales charge and management fee should be able to provide something special that we cannot do so easy by ourself.
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As you noted, most funds have the big companies. Perhaps the smaller holdings are the ones making the difference between them.

another thing is, what are the Average prices they bought in to these companies and what are the prices they sell at?

For those you have to look deeper in morning star or even read the quarterly report over few years to try and guesstimate the positions whether increasing or decreasing at the right time.

I mean every Tom dick and Harry that goes to China / HK buys a basket of tencent, byd, meituan, baba, and show you. The question is sometimes are they going short or long at the appropriate times....?

Eventually I tend to take a more pragmatic approach, which is simply to compare them against each other. In a way, perhaps past performance does indicate future returns.
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QUOTE(sairay @ Feb 9 2021, 10:48 AM)
I am trying to establish my core portfolio too but like one of the comments here .....I find selecting the right UT a difficult task. Perhaps maybe because of the wide ranging options available.

Therefore, I am looking at FSM managed portfolio as part of the options too. Any experience on this. Would like to hear some opinion.
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i think i'm going to get bashed for this, but actually best for beginner is Stashaway / Wahed. Just choose your risk level (max risk for max returns, vice versa). Do some of their online quiz to understand your level of risk tolerance.

That is actually more fool proof (and at times more rewarding) than selecting a basket funds, in FSM. All needing to poke in RM1k initially. Maybe you may feel uncomfortable.

With SA, you can start small with RM100, 200 and even per week.

(of course, with FSM the trick is to do the RSP special list, you can also start with RM100 for selected funds).

I can't recommend FSM managed portfolios, as the risk vs reward seems not up to par. If I HAVE to invest via FSM, my choice right now is China, greater china at 60% (also tech heavy but you can go with some more consumer centric tech) and US (all those weird tech funds / AI / disruptive) at 40%. No bonds for me. I have plenty of ASW and EPF (untouched), and also thru Stashaway there is plenty of bonds locked in. But understand that for me, the target is high risk with mutual funds and it consists only a smaller portion of my overall investments.
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QUOTE(sairay @ Feb 9 2021, 03:50 PM)
I have done some reading and feedback before going into FSM. Did consider SA but choose FSM cause it had been around longer than SA and safety and background check all tick.

FSM hard part is selecting a basking of funds. Too many spoilt for choice. So far I had selected 3 and all are recommended by FSM list. Don't plan to do the RSP thing just have to monitor the NAV price and buy at dip if possible.

My target is moderately aggressive though tend to be on safer side
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Right now, it is kind of hard to pick a loser. But I still remember the times in 2018 to late 2019 that opposite is true.

Monitoring the NAV price is just going end up monitoring. It will go up and up and you will likely end up watching on the sidelines while others just take in on the action. A better strategy is DCA 90% and buy the dip 10% not the other way around.

Good luck with your selection, stay abreast of the situation and the fund performance vs benchmark and market conditions. Remember to stay invested.
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for me, i have dabbled in bond funds in the past when they were "fashionable". Remember Anita mui fund? (Libra Asnita Bond Fund) which at some time generated 6% pa. The thing is, trading bonds is not the same as buying a bond from a certain company / body. It is rather trading the bond ticket which has a promise of certain returns at a prescribed time. Their value goes up AND down according to speculation. When a country or company is downrated, the value of the bond ticket drops. All in all, yes they tend to be lower risk, but with such low returns, I rather just treat my EPF as a bond instead. With that kind of backing, for example 30-40% of all my portfolio, isn't it time to just look straight into equities?

Remember Jack Bogle advocated 60:40 equity to bonds as a measure of reducing volatility whereby in the US economic system there is no EPF. And there is a big bunch of government backed bonds in the US market, which to me is not quite the same as a business bond ticket which has a higher tendency to default. In the event of a government backed default you usually do not lose your capital.

I think with my few hundred word essay, I'm not a fan of bond funds for the Average malaysian.
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QUOTE(george_dave91 @ Feb 11 2021, 04:08 PM)
Hi guys. I see that fsm Singapore has a fee structure that uses an overall platform fee minus the sales charge. Similar to their current fee structure for the bond funds on the fsm Malaysia platform currently. My fear is that eventually the Malaysian platform may adopt a similar fee structure too, considering the bond fund changed from upfront sales charge to platform fee couple years back. This is concerning especially in my case since I plan to invest for the long term (at least 30 years ++). Based on the math an overall platform fee will have major impact on performance compared to one that has an upfront sales charge only (even if it is 5.5%). This is so for investments that exceed 20 years. In my case I would be accumulating for 25 years before having to withdraw funds. Does anyone else feel the same? Would it be better to just DCA into normal upfront sales charge funds. Of course at present there are no platform fees for equity/balanced funds (phew). Just a concern. I guess I’m being quite paranoid about something that has not even happened yet.
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as you say it hasn't happened yet. and the main reason singapore is charging platform fee in my guess is because of the plethora of really really low fee funds (ETF's etc) which in return unlikely to allow FSM singapore to get any income from them, so they charge the end investor instead. If the actual fund house almost dont charge you and the platform charge you 1% pa it is still manageable in my opinion. Plus the fact that they are soo open to be able to purchase from such a wide range of funds.

If it happens here, be sure that your thinking and mindset is going to occupy all of us. At which time I will change the brokerage to directly under my own name for the units owned and perhaps to Philip mutual or eunittrust or someone else. In other words, if you come in, the market heats up, the fees get competitive. Not the other way around.

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