Back in Zen 2, the 3950x and 3800x had a conspiracy theory going on where these 2 SKUs got the best binned 8 core chiplets. Now that conspiracy theory has also spread to Zen 3.

The thing that people often overlook is that the so called poorly binned SKUs like the 3900x and 3700x had waaaay more sales than both 3950x and 3800x combined. The data is then skewed towards the other 2, where more people would complain their CPUs aren't boosting as advertised and cannot OC beyond +200mhz.

My point is that no matter which SKU you buy, it'll always be down to luck.

Those who always criticize intel being hot cpu

From https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i7-1...ahead-of-launch

Is not a "hot" processor, running up to 18°C cooler than a 5800X under Prime95 load. And look at the power draw.

spoken too soon, it just BSOD again now with "APC index Mismatch". Looks like it's kernel related... now it's very likely to be my USB devices especially my USB DAC. or perhaps the RAM has already corrupted some of the windows files... it's CNY now and thought of wanna play some games and the problems kept coming now. WTF.

Somehow that version is not available for update as my windows update manager shows that mine is up to date. Maybe I will check around...

B550.. means the problem is not zen3 exclusive.

Anyways just got back from lowyat with a 10400F and Z490i. Sadly rocketlake is not out yet but i dont wanna wait anymore.

ps: there’s alot of rtx3070, rx6800Xt but all need bundle... rtx3080 and 5000 series ryzen totally no stock even if you wanna bundle , while Ryzen 3000series limited and need full pc bundle.

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5000-zen-3-d...-failure-rates/

AMD Ryzen 5000 ‘Zen 3’ Desktop CPUs & X570 Motherboards Have High Failure Rates, Reports PowerGPU

nop, the shop that has the bundle for RTX3070 dont have stock for z490i.. so didnt manage to get it.

Don't have to read the actual Rma figures. Roughly we already knew failure rates for Zen 3 is higher especially for 5950x.

10850k is technically a lower binned of 10900k, so quality lower higher change of failure?

dont forget, there are people especially murica who RMA when there's no problem but the silicon is not good enough to reach their desired overclocking results.... Eventho the rma is likely be sent back to them but it will be considered as an RMA instance. Meanwhile the other statistics by powergpu for Ryzen was based on DOA, so I guess there's a difference as they are a pc builder who build and test before selling it out, and is genuinely faulty not simply RMAing because it cant OC well.

As for 10850K high RMA ... I assume it is due to users expect it will OC like a 10900K but it turns out that it doesnt so they RMA. If im not mistaken, 10900K can easily 5.2ghz at 1.26V... 10850K may need up to 1.35V if that's even possible and you can imagine the stress it puts on the VRM... there's quite a big difference between the 2.

and well... I gotta admit I also used to try my luck to rma poor overclocking cpu back in the days.

I'm fairly active on the Asus CH8 OC and owner's thread, from our collective reports there - the CPU that has the most issues are indeed the 5950x. More often than not, you will see people complaining that they can't even boot beyond 3600mhz/1800mhz IF, these are Zen 2 speeds lol!

Of course some BIOS releases has helped alleviate such cases recently, but it's not untrue that 5950x is currently the CPU to avoid, besides the 5800x which is of a silly value to begin with.

capitalizing all the left over good ccx dies for the higest possible margin.. the crappy ones as you know are all dumped into 3100 and 3300

Too bad 5900x is like a unicorn.

not just not acknowledging.. but made worse by some of their toxic fans turning it into a user problem instead, especially when it comes to RAM stick choices and various other hardware/software compatibility.

Hi guys. This is my first time posting here. As im building my rig. And Im too hasty... i found myself a 5800x and 5900x.

Before i put it to my motherboard. Which one will you guys think i should keep.

I just do normal gaming only and going to use this desktop for working purposes more.

Got it for RM2800 kinda mark up abit for 5900x.

I got 5800x as thought no hope for my 5900x for RM2400.. sigh...

Now I'm unsure what should i do with it. If i sell my 5800 open box u think got ppl buy ?? As 5900x is mint in box. 5800x is install to my desktop.

I got MSI unify as my mother board as saw review one of best budget motherboard.

Excel tends to not able to utilize multi threaded workloads that well and even if you have so much power at your disposal.. also better to use ECC ram as if im not mistaken, Ryzen supports it.
But generally, also expect crashing midway with such big datasets (altho 1GB is still considered small) regardless of how many cores or rams.... for this kind of workloads usually xeons are used for reliability.
So for you, just sell whichever you can scalp for the highest margin/profit which is the 5800X at the moment.

which is ironic because ryzen has a bunch of missing components to run certain linux distro smoothly lmao... only now they create a dedicated team to sort the problems for future chips.

3950X had arrived.

Bought it from joinothing over here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5102093
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Replaced 5600X with 3950X.
edit:
3950X idle CPU PPT = 15W
5950X idle CPU PPT = 28W

Both are using mainboard Precision Boost Overdrive and Auto OC +200Mhz.

Anyone know what with the variance in idling power usage? 

So, I can assume all Zen 3 has idle CPU PPT of 28W.

Anyone with previous Zen 2 can verify on idle 15W - 18W CPU PPT?

Zen 3 memang hotter than Comet Lake. You squeeze in so many cores and threads into 1 tiny ass package, if not hot then it goes against logic already.

Let’s define ‘fail.’ The vendor noted that like most PC vendors, it still ships more Intel-based CPUs than AMD-based CPUs. The sample size affects the data: If you bake one dozen cookies and one burns, that extra-crispy one's going to stick out more than if you bake five dozen cookies and a few burn.

The third vendor torture-tests systems with fully loaded memory slots—even if they’re not eventually sold that way. The vendor also explained that its failed CPUs aren’t dead, as PowerGPU reported—they just don’t pass its requirements to run low-latency or high-frequency RAM fully loaded.

Interestingly, the third vendor also said there was no apparent rhyme or reason to CPUs that didn’t pass muster. For example, it found more Core i9-10900K chips passed its tests than Core i9-10850K chips, while the 64-core ThreadRipper 3990X had more success than the 32-core and 24-core versions. The third vendor said it wouldn’t describe its particular rejection rates as a “problem.”

I believe it's higher than that for 5950x

anyone got a 'beginner' guide for 5600x on CTR 2.0?