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mosty
post Mar 9 2017, 11:37 AM

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Why cant just amd make 4 core 8 thread processor with higher clock speed with the performance is almost same or higher than 7700k but sell it with lower price. Sure will dominate gamers community, and peoples will not hesitated to buy
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post Mar 9 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(mosty @ Mar 9 2017, 11:37 AM)
Why cant just amd make 4 core 8 thread processor with higher clock speed with the performance is almost same or higher than 7700k but sell it with lower price. Sure will dominate gamers community, and peoples will not hesitated to buy
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thats Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 3. check the lineup in the link

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-full-lineup-confirmed/
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post Mar 9 2017, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(siggy @ Mar 9 2017, 12:00 PM)
thats Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 3. check the lineup in the link

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-full-lineup-confirmed/
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Although ryzen 5 and 3 may come later, I don't believe it will match kaby lake in terms of performance though. Maybe 10% slower.. But the price will be the determining factor whether ryzen 5/3 is better than core i5/i3 parts.

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post Mar 9 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 9 2017, 12:34 PM)
Although ryzen 5 and 3 may come later, I don't believe it will match kaby lake in terms of performance though. Maybe 10% slower.. But the price will be the determining factor whether ryzen 5/3 is better than core i5/i3 parts.
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just done get the XFR variant
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post Mar 10 2017, 06:10 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5wuz1..._tuning_leaked/
https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/PSA-A...ave-Wider-Range

After reading the thread on reddit and the pcpaper article (link above), and dig a little bit more searching I have found better understanding regarding XFR
which has never been explained properly by many reviewers. And there were some misleading info reported by many Youtube reviewers too.

XFR actually works on all Ryzen chip, not just X-versions.
1800X, 1700X and 1700 all have XFR. The difference is that 1800X and 1700X has 100MHz extra over normal boost, while 1700MHz is only 50MHz.

The way a boost and XFR works on Ryzen 8-cores is something like this
1800X
Base clock: 3600MHz @ 8 cores
Boost 1 : 3700MHz @ 8 cores
Max Boost : 4000MHz @ 2 cores
XFR : 4100MHz @ 2 cores (temp <60°C, cpu power <128W)

1700
Base clock: 3000MHz @ 8 cores
Boost 1 : 3100MHz @ 8 cores
Max Boost : 3700MHz @ 2 cores
XFR : 3750MHz @ 2 cores (temp <60°C, cpu power <128W)

Initially, early AMD reports mention that XFR is supposed to have no fixed limit, but in the end they decided to lock it at only 100MHz extra.

Some reviewers claim that max boost and XFR only works on one core, but if pcpaper article is correct then it should be 2 cores instead. One core max boost is probably due to buggy bios or unoptimized threads or something like that.








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post Mar 10 2017, 06:39 PM

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My R7 1700X and Crosshair VI Hero are coming next week.... hehe...
So... exciting.


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post Mar 11 2017, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Kanuki @ Mar 10 2017, 06:39 PM)
My R7 1700X and Crosshair VI Hero are coming next week.... hehe...
So... exciting.
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Hero board is local supplier? How much SRP?
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post Mar 11 2017, 10:12 AM

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ASUS am4 mobo stocks very limited.

Anyone else got a Ryzen rig that can share with us?
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post Mar 11 2017, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 11 2017, 10:10 AM)
Hero board is local supplier? How much SRP?
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Nope... get it from other country.

I noticed that the price is very close to MSI xPower Titanium.
It might gonna be around RM17xx when it's launched in Malaysia.

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post Mar 11 2017, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kanuki @ Mar 11 2017, 10:14 AM)
Nope... get it from other country.

I noticed that the price is very close to MSI xPower Titanium.
It might gonna be around RM17xx when it's launched in Malaysia.
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What the.. hmm. Im here in Australia, price is only 1196 with shipping after conversion. But the warranty im afraid.

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post Mar 11 2017, 07:14 PM

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post Mar 13 2017, 05:43 PM

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ASUS Crosshair VI Hero Malaysia price has been announced.

https://www.facebook.com/DOTATECH/photos/pc...?type=3&theater

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post Mar 15 2017, 04:15 PM

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post Mar 15 2017, 05:12 PM

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post Mar 15 2017, 05:57 PM

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Any forecasts for the pricing here? will it offset the intel prices here?
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post Mar 15 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(f10 @ Mar 15 2017, 05:57 PM)
Any forecasts for the pricing here? will it offset the intel prices here?
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I usually multiply it by 5.

Price only will drop if R5 threaten Intel equivalent quite significantly in term of price/performance especially in gaming imo, else no price drop.
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post Mar 15 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 15 2017, 06:13 PM)
I usually multiply it by 5.

Price only will drop if R5 threaten Intel equivalent quite significantly in term of price/performance especially in gaming imo, else no price drop.
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if like that not much effect then. thanks!
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post Mar 15 2017, 08:50 PM

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I think the performance will be the same as ryzen 7, still cannot beat the king of single threaded performance i7-7700k. The only way amd can fight intel is the pricing.
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post Mar 16 2017, 05:21 PM

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R5 1600X might be a better gaming option than R7 1700 because:
- lower pricing
- much higher base clock by 600MHz
- max clock on all cores 3700MHz @ 6-cores vs 3150MHz @ 8-cores

I think the huge extra mhz at the base is enough to offset the performance from lacking 2 extra cores in terms of gaming.
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post Mar 17 2017, 12:46 AM

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Get some ECC RAM capable motherboard in the market and the Intel Xeon E3 will get screwed so badly I believe since Ryzen has ECC RAM support by default.

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