For gaming, it's generally this formula in descending order: Ryzen 5000 > Intel 6+ cores > Ryzen 3000 > Intel hyperthreaded quadcores > the rest.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Dec 12 2020, 02:47 PM

Apparently someone found that Cyberpunk uses a GPUOpen library that doesn't correctly detect SMT functionality in Ryzen CPUs, causing the game to not utilize its extra threads. More info and workaround to increase FPS here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/..._processors_re/

How... disappointing.

That's odd, how did you get yours past checkout?

Tried my office address, same result. Same goes when keying in a Singapore address. Persistence doesn't seem to work either

Problem is none of them have the mobo I want bundled together. Hence trying to buy separately.

Who knew, AMD would shit the bed on supply after laughing at Nvidia and making all those empty gestures on how they will combat botting and promised there's more stock than RTX cards?

No idea about Newegg (last time I bought from them was years ago) but with Amazon they will charge you for tax together with shipping. If the tax charge is not incurred on your purchase (or it was less than the taxes amount) you'll get refunded for the remainder of the costs, if it exceeds Amazon absorbs the tax price.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Initial-Rocke...s.511144.0.html

RKL ES @ 4.5GHz loses to 5800X, although this is to be expected. Question is, how high will a 11900K clock?

At the rate things are going, 5xxx APUs will launch first.
Zen2+3 are on the same process node so I won't be surprised AMD cans the 3000/4000 series CPUs quickly to sell more 5000 series - higher speeds = higher profit margins anyway.

In what way are the B550 boards all "pure garbage" and "non future proof" unlike the X570 Unify/Dark Hero?

Future CPUs? Zen4 is going to use DDR5 memory and thus change sockets to a possible AM5.

VRMs? Everything is sufficient for 6 cores, even the trashiest motherboards.

Chipset features? I think most users would prefer no chipset fan even if it meant they lose all but one M.2 PCIE4 slot.

Dark Hero pricing is nice here, but it's overkill for most people, let alone people who are asking these questions on what to get.

Zen2+3 is overpriced right now due to lack of supply. If you're buying a new PC right now mostly for gaming and you're on a budget, get a 10400F, the cheapest Z490 board that meets your needs, and some DDR4-3200 RAM sticks.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Dec 24 2020, 09:26 PM

You bought that rig two years too early.

Buying 2600K and a 7970 in 2011 would have set you for 6+ years easily with just incremental GPU upgrades to max everything on 1080p e.g. GTX970/1070 - consoles and Bulldozer underperformance has stagnated the tech/performance race for a long time until recently.

AIBs aren't going to reduce prices of 2080Ti like that unless Nvidia provides them rebates, or unless they're desperate to clear stock.

As for price hikes - they can do that easily by using supply vs demand justification and exploit the desperate.

They will say anything to justify price hikes because most of them are scalping too. In some cases, the local distributor is doing the same too!

You won't see big electronics stores in the US or Western Europe doing the same thing.

WTB 3600/3700X at reasonable prices relative to gaming performance vs Intel

IIRC the best server CPUs for databases are those heavily cut down Xeons with 20/28 cores disabled etc. All they need is raw clockspeed and cache. One of the few use cases where Zen chiplet design can never be superior to monolithic CPUs.

I'm using AMD EC2 instances for work, they're slightly slower but suits my needs better because the instances are also slightly cheaper than Intel ones.

Everything you can buy is a massive upgrade at this point.

Maybe camp for someone offloading their 8700K/9700K rig on the cheap?

Almost any application using Electron too, they all rely on a resource hungry web engine for the user interface.

Visual Studio Code
Slack
Discord
Github Atom
Skype

The list goes on and on too.

If you want to play that argument you can already get an original copy of the game at half price now with VPNs. And are you going to post the same thing whenever a new game releases?

Just because I buy 99.99% of my games on discount doesn't mean I must force my opinions on waiting for sales onto everyone.

Can't see anyone going for this at all unless they absolutely need integrated graphics on AM4. Even then with the asking price, might as well get a 3200G or something else.

A certain local website is going to offer a very limited number of 3070s at a discounted price very soon. Happy hunting!

Hence why I said "very limited units".

I won't be surprised if it's just one GPU at that price, and the rest is at Zotac RRP and require full PC bundling.