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post Feb 27 2017, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Feb 27 2017, 09:13 PM)
USA launch date is 2nd March... not sure in our country.
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2nd March, 10PM.
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post Feb 28 2017, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(chapree @ Feb 28 2017, 07:36 PM)
Bukan 11PM ke, abam?
9AM CT kan?  hmm.gif
0900 EST = 1500 CET = 10PM +8 GMT.

http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter

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post Mar 1 2017, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(chapree @ Mar 1 2017, 08:27 PM)
I saw 9am Central America Time, not Eastern America Time.  hmm.gif

But I don't know...maybe Tech Day attendees were given diff timing.  hmm.gif
I checked with AMD already, 10PM Malaysia time.

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post Mar 2 2017, 12:00 PM

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LOL. I think many people do not know how to interpret that leaked benchmark slides.

Yes leaked, not supposed to unveil until tonight but well.

Going back to what I said in the 1st line - MANY PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THAT LEAKED BENCHMARK SLIDES. smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(lchee @ Mar 2 2017, 12:18 PM)
Do share your thoughts on the benchmark slides.  More opinions will enlighten ppl here.
Your GPU is under-performing. Is that a good sign?
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Mar 2 2017, 12:23 PM)
Based on my experience, his numbers are as what I'd expect it to be. smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2017, 07:20 PM

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Yes the cores can be disabled.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 3 2017, 05:10 PM)
7700K is an obvious winner for gaming-only cpu. Before down putting Ryzen, Intel camp also need to realize that 7700K also game better than their more expensive 6900K and 6800K. In multi-threaded applications and synthetic benchmarks, R7 matches well with Intel HEDT system, but still loose at gaming. Why? It's all about the clockspeed.
This is correct. As what I mentioned in my article and video review.

Intel still does better in the gaming arena so if one is going in purely for gaming, Intel is the choice.

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post Mar 3 2017, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Mar 3 2017, 11:22 AM)
After so many years, there's nothing much on Ryzen. Might as well reduce their pricing more to compete.
Nothing much?

An RM 2,599 processor outperforms some RM 6,000 processor by ~50%.

How is that not much?

You must understand that Ryzen is a whole new architecture and as of now, it works fine for games (a little behind Intel stuff) but it benefits content creators a lot more because now the initial cost is less but you get a lot more performance.
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post Mar 3 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Yottabyte @ Mar 3 2017, 02:35 PM)
I wouldn't call Zen with terrific IPC/TDP as 'nothing much'. as I said before, today mobile and server market matters waaay more than desktop especially enthusiast.
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btw, Ryzen is into the server market.

We're just not allow to talk about the Server part yet. smile.gif
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post Mar 3 2017, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(area61 @ Mar 3 2017, 03:07 PM)
Much better to not board the hype train as always, and rather than asking AMD reducing the price, best to reduce expectation.
The hype is real actually, the performance is good as it is.

Unfortunately some parties decide to add their own hype that performance in productivity / synthetic / multi-threaded application translates to gaming performance.

LOL case.

Seriously. What we see are FPS aka frames per second.

Even if AMD did product something that is exact or better than Intel, what you see is that the FPS numbers will be same because when the processor is same they just hit GPU limitation.

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QUOTE(area61 @ Mar 3 2017, 05:33 PM)
These people got into they hype that you mentioned above probably due to the number of inexperienced youtubers doing CPU reviews.
Mentality CPU only used for gaming really  doh.gif
Tu la, average fps difference by 3 also condemn like silly.

LOL. They don't understand how average fps works.

If difference is 3 means the gaming experience difference is negligible.

Furthermore it's not on all games, so many games their benchmarks similar.

Many people very narrow minded, they thing brands like Intel and AMD release processor means for gamers.

Die lo if companies only think of gamers. biggrin.gif And another thing is people only see "Current", they don't bother to understand what the Ryzen means for "Future".

The potential is huge, and the way it's positioned it will make Intel improve too.
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Mar 3 2017, 11:02 PM)
Yes, thing is consumer like me dominate the market, not content creator. I'm paying to game. So despite the benchmark shows a very large performance for content creator. That isn't what I want. What I'm expecting for is just a cheap quad core which has better single thread performance. Heck I don't even want to buy a CPU for over MYR 2k price.

Feel free to correct if I'm wrong.
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And that's the problem. You had your expectation, so it's not the product that failed you but rather you had expectations.

If you look at the presentation past to present, AMD didn't market much on the gaming aspect.

Fact remains that gamers isn't their main market, they look at overall - gamer, content creator and servers.
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QUOTE(cj7 @ Mar 4 2017, 12:29 PM)
goldfries, did you pair ryzen with amd card? vortez side socre "higher" with rx 480. Lastly, disabling smt does it make a differences in testing?

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_r..._review,19.html
I did but I so no point doing benchmarks on RX 470.

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post Mar 4 2017, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:11 PM)
Among the 3 Ryzen models, I can't see the point of buying the 1800x. 1700 can overclock just as high as 1800x (maybe just 100mhz lower). Same 8c 16t and same amount of cache. Perhaps AMD traditionally likes to give 'free' performance to end users, like some Phenom II that can be unlocked to gain extra cores.
It's for content creators who don't have the luxury to overclock, after all overclocking takes time and some knowledge.

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post Mar 5 2017, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(cj7 @ Mar 5 2017, 10:04 AM)
Any idea on power consumption? from many review site, power consumption higher than advertised.
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TDP is not the same as power draw.
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post Mar 20 2017, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 20 2017, 08:49 PM)
goldfries Is Ryzen bus-clocking friendly?

I mean, can you increase the bus clock without affecting the stability of other peripherals like pcie clock, sata, and all those stuff?
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Donno, lemme go try with other boards first.

My MSI board sucks on that aspect, RM 1.8k beauty but can't adjust multiplier x BCLK.

Damn n00b for OCing IMO.
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:25 PM

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Did you manually set the timings and voltage?

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