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post Aug 10 2019, 10:52 PM

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Honda City Gm2 year 2009
Current Odo : 110,954km
Date: 09/08/2019
Blotter time : 6pm (blotter spot 24hrs later, will upload when reaching 48hrs )
oil age : 1,069km
Engine oil used :
Type: Shell Helix HX8 X 5w30

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post Aug 11 2019, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 10 2019, 10:52 PM)
Honda City Gm2 year 2009
Current Odo : 110,954km
Date: 09/08/2019
Blotter time : 6pm (blotter spot 24hrs later, will upload when reaching 48hrs )
oil age : 1,069km
Engine oil used :
Type: Shell Helix HX8 X 5w30

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Hi 90Boyz,
This 1069 km blotter is very translucent and clean with kind of total absence of soot from your clean engine.
It still has plenty of life in it.
What's your habitual historical oil change intervals for full/semi synthetic or mineral ?
Curious to check with you this paper type, as it appears of quality type for Blotter Spot Test.
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post Aug 11 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 11 2019, 12:00 PM)
Hi 90Boyz,
This 1069 km blotter is very translucent and clean with kind of total absence of soot from your clean engine.
It still has plenty of life in it.
What's your habitual historical oil change intervals for full/semi synthetic or mineral ?
Curious to check with you this paper type, as it appears of quality type for Blotter Spot Test.
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Hi Zeng,
previously i'm been using petronas syntium 800 5w30 all the time and oil change interval was around 4k~6k kmand recently there's a friend of mine recommended me to use helix hx8 x as claim to be the best budget synthetic oil from shell.
the paper type that i use for this test is the daiso white coffee filter paper.
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Aug 10 2019, 10:47 AM)
How old is the older car refers to?
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API SL not necessarily mean for older car, just that API criteria put it into SL category. Likely due to higher zinc/phosphor anti wear additives. API criteria don't like zinc/phosphor because catalytic poisoning = bad for environment.

It still meets ACEA A3/B4, which mean in europe, it can work in newer cars also.
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post Aug 11 2019, 10:26 PM

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Blotter spot test after48hrs

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post Aug 11 2019, 11:41 PM

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Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge. I learned a new thing today. I didn’t see anything related to Subaru boxer engine. I will share my blotter spot images as soon as I test. I just started engine oil change outside official service center.
Thank you.
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post Aug 12 2019, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 11 2019, 10:26 PM)
Blotter spot test after48hrs

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Hi,
Sure enough, this HX8 blotter demonstrates complete absence of soot and centre zone indicating this 1069 km oil is as new as virgin.

Btw, there appears to be no fuel dilution problem in this blotter spot test.

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 10 2019, 10:52 PM)
Honda City Gm2 year 2009
Current Odo : 110,954km
Date: 09/08/2019
Blotter time : 6pm (blotter spot 24hrs later, will upload when reaching 48hrs )
oil age : 1,069km
Engine oil used :
Type: Shell Helix HX8 X 5w30

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where did you get the HX8 X 5w30? How much? Wanted to try but cant find it at shell station and even i ask those shell workshop. All carries
the Ultra 5w40 unless HX7 E for 5w30 semi which i dont want.
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post Aug 12 2019, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 12 2019, 07:53 PM)
Hi,
Sure enough, this HX8 blotter demonstrates complete absence of soot and centre zone indicating this 1069 km oil is as new as virgin.

Btw, there appears to be no fuel dilution problem in this blotter spot test.

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thanks for the visual inspection explanations .. maybe it still too early to judge
let me come back with another result after hitting 5k km .. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(incredibless @ Aug 12 2019, 08:29 PM)
where did you get the HX8 X 5w30? How much? Wanted to try but cant find it at shell station and even i ask those shell workshop. All carries
the Ultra 5w40 unless HX7 E for 5w30 semi which i dont want.
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Hi bro, i get it from my friend which so happen spotted this oil at one of the shell station at outstation
or maybe you can search at their website to locate the nearest store and check the product availability of the helix hx8 x ..
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post Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Aug 12 2019, 11:18 PM)
thanks for the visual inspection explanations .. maybe it still too early to judge
let me come back with another result after hitting 5k km ..  thumbsup.gif
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You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil.

Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of .......
can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM)
You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil.

Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of  .......
can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
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yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5
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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 13 2019, 07:31 PM)
You're most welcome, sharing blotters of HX8 5W30 with other readers here with a view of 'ascertaining' the quality or efficacy of this oil.

Btw, Shell Malaysia claims MB 229.5 which I am doubtful of  .......
can anyone confirms it with a packaging image ?
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 01:47 AM)
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yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5
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mercedes say HX8 yes, HX8X tak de
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:17 AM)
mercedes say HX8 yes, HX8X tak de
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Don't know which side correct hehe..
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 02:56 PM)
Don't know which side correct hehe..
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https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html

scroll to shell lower down the listing
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:26 PM)
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html

scroll to shell lower down the listing
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It could also be MB haven't updated the list yet. IDk.
Any gentleman willing to query MB or Shell on this issue?
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 03:55 PM)
It could also be MB haven't updated the list yet. IDk.
Any gentleman willing to query MB or Shell on this issue?
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Unlikely to be mercedes side fault, if you scroll back up near the top, see the right side before the list begins, it is the date last updated.

And last updated yesterday icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Aug 14 2019, 04:01 PM)
Unlikely to be mercedes side fault, if you scroll back up near the top, see the right side before the list begins, it is the date last updated.

And last updated yesterday  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Good observation bro.
Wanted to ask Shell Flagstore store about this, but then found out that they don't sell HX8 .
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Aug 14 2019, 01:47 AM)
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yes the bottle label does specify MB-approval 229.5
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Hi Chemistry,
can you take a closer look at the picture, if you've a higher resolution one, to establish this HX8 X 5W30 is MB 229.5 or 229.3 ?
I've images showing HX8 (without X) 5W30 from Russia, Indonesia and Australia/NZ showing MB 229.3.
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