Sorry Bro. I thought hdeo means Honda engine oil. Turns out its heavy duty engine oil. Last time I use Honda engine oil all these while. For this sample, I'm using shell helix full synthetic 5w40 bought from giant on promo rm89 I think. I have a bottle left, unfortunately after this next bottle I think I will switch back to 5w30 or 0w30 fully syn.

Yrs, its my honda city

This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Jul 30 2019, 11:41 AM

daikor zeng

My latest hot sample after about 9200km, ODO about 70k that time, on Formula Shell 5w30. How is it looking after 3 days?

Hi wkc,
No signs of centre zone perimeter ring, which is good news indicating the used oil's detergency/dispersancy capabilities are in tip top condition.
IMO, it's fit for continuing use in this Mazda3 engine , which comes with the inherent fuel dilution 'problem' (by observing the outermost perimeter zone) but not serious enough to 'destroy' the Formula Shell 5W30 at 9200 km usage.

This 9200 km blotter spot is far 'better' than Senscents' 8500 km of similar oil but different engine type and mileage, IMHO.

This post has been edited by zeng: Jul 31 2019, 08:17 PM

Honda calls it HGEO Honda Genuine Engine Oil 0W30, it is petrol engine oil.

HDEO is diesel engine oil and generally performs well in petrol engines like my Wira 1.5 and Avanza 1.3 petrol engines .

Oh well, Shell Helix fullsyn 5W40 is a very powerful oil with Molybdenum and Boron as shown in VOA below.







This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 1 2019, 02:40 PM

I too is using Helix Ultra 5w40. But on a car which is slightly incompatible.
Perodua Axia. It calls for 0w20 recommended. But I'm not confident with P2's own full synthetic oil. so I decided to go for Helix Ultra.

only penalty is the poorer FC (but doesn't affect engine performance). From 17km/l to 15km/l, sometimes 14km/l.
so for my next oil change I have to go back to a lighter oil,

and give the remaining balance to its bigger, fatter brother. Exora Turbo.

I saw on UBuy that someone is selling parallel import Helix Ultra 0w30. not sure whether it's safe to buy from UBuy.
Yes my current Helix Ultra is also parallel import version but I got it from Giant.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Aug 2 2019, 06:11 PM

SHU 0W30 C2/C3 has very powerful OEM approvals (MB VW) and are supposedly meant for 30,000 km OCI in Europe.

Giant has 0w30 but its hx8. Not ultra. Any good?

0W30 ?
..... or you mean to say this 5W30 ?



This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 4 2019, 07:33 PM

Yeah this. Sorry. But giant stock of course is not from Malaysia. Its hx8. Without the extra X. Nevertheless. Any good? I wanted to switch back to 5w30.



This post has been edited by cempedaklife: Aug 4 2019, 08:01 PM


Attached thumbnail(s)

This is from giant the HX8 fully synthetic 5w30 but it is API SL certified only. Old formulas for older car. The above reply was HX8 X with API SN Plus which is the latest grades.

... or SN HX8 ?



Anyway certifications specifications/approvals of SHU 0W30 C3 >> SHU 5W40 A3B4 >> Helix HX8 5W30 , be it SN or SL.

May i know how do i perform this test ?
And what equipment should I prepare? And methods? Thanks

With a dipstick, let one drop used oil on a piece of paper.
Lay the blotter spot sample flat over 2 stacks (of paper support) and observe its changes over 48 hour.

Best done with the oil warm, like within 30 minutes on engine shut down preferably after a 'long' engine run of at least 20 minutes.

Any A4 size printing paper or 'company letter head' will do.

Post#1 provides several links for further reading.

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 10 2019, 10:27 AM

How old is the older car refers to?

Honda City Gm2 year 2009
Current Odo : 110,954km
Date: 09/08/2019
Blotter time : 6pm (blotter spot 24hrs later, will upload when reaching 48hrs )
oil age : 1,069km
Engine oil used :
Type: Shell Helix HX8 X 5w30



This post has been edited by 90Boyz: Aug 10 2019, 10:53 PM

Hi 90Boyz,
This 1069 km blotter is very translucent and clean with kind of total absence of soot from your clean engine.
It still has plenty of life in it.
What's your habitual historical oil change intervals for full/semi synthetic or mineral ?
Curious to check with you this paper type, as it appears of quality type for Blotter Spot Test.

Hi Zeng,
previously i'm been using petronas syntium 800 5w30 all the time and oil change interval was around 4k~6k kmand recently there's a friend of mine recommended me to use helix hx8 x as claim to be the best budget synthetic oil from shell.
the paper type that i use for this test is the daiso white coffee filter paper.

API SL not necessarily mean for older car, just that API criteria put it into SL category. Likely due to higher zinc/phosphor anti wear additives. API criteria don't like zinc/phosphor because catalytic poisoning = bad for environment.

It still meets ACEA A3/B4, which mean in europe, it can work in newer cars also.

Blotter spot test after48hrs

Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge. I learned a new thing today. I didn’t see anything related to Subaru boxer engine. I will share my blotter spot images as soon as I test. I just started engine oil change outside official service center.
Thank you.