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 Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 16,286 km blotter Shell Helix Ultra 5W40

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post Nov 13 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 13 2018, 04:35 PM)
Thanks for posting Chemistry, sorry for the late response.
As is typical of HDEO, this 12558 km blotter spot tests doesn't demonstrate darkened centre zone perimeter ring, indicating high detergency/dispersancy capabilities of used sample.
Intermediate zone is a bit greying in colour, but it's still good.
It appears to me this semi synthetic SHP 15W40 can go beyond 12558 km OCI in this carburettor engine.
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Many thanks for taking time to comment here.
The HDEO was drained at OCI 13000km and has been in service for 14 months . I think it has done its job very well.
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post Nov 14 2018, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Nov 13 2018, 06:33 PM)
Many thanks for taking time to comment here.
The HDEO was drained at OCI 13000km and has been in service for 14 months . I think it has done its job very well.
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I had used HDEO mineral CI4 15W40 for around 8500 km oil change and found them very robust.
Yours is semi synthetic with CK4 of 'higher' specs.
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post Nov 14 2018, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Aug 21 2018, 03:32 PM)
Bardahl MXP 5W-40 FS
180,020 km mileage
6,829 km usage
Livina 1.6 NA
Photo at 48 hours

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This Bardahl MXP 5W40 FS blotter spot has very vague centre zone perimeter ring, which is good news at 6829 km.
Detergency/dispersancy capabilities of oil is still strong and probably can still go on for several thousands km more.

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post Nov 15 2018, 03:09 PM

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post Nov 15 2018, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Aug 15 2018, 07:17 PM)
Since the last used of the Pennzoil oil are good, i've prolong the oil change.
Hope this blotter will be a good indication for all.
Oil sample taken cold.

EO: Pennzoil Platinum Velocity 5w-40
Car: Perodua 2014
Engine: 1.3 auto
Millage: 17000 km
Odometer: 86132
Driving Condition: 60% City; 40% Highway
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Wow, nice blotter spot test at 17000 km, Senscents.
No signs of perimeter ring near the centre zone, I would assess the oil detergency/dispersancy properties are in top form and there is probably still life in this oil.
As you took sample at cold, the fuel dilution can be observed at the outermost perimeter zone.
Btw,I would strongly recommend this Platinum Velocity 5W40 to the readers on lowyat using typical Asian engines .

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post Nov 22 2018, 03:35 PM

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How is this oil doing?

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post Nov 22 2018, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 22 2018, 03:35 PM)
How is this oil doing?

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LOL. Didn't know anyone is still using Honda oil like me.
I'm on 110k km now
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post Nov 22 2018, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 22 2018, 04:47 PM)
LOL. Didn't know anyone is still using Honda oil like me.
I'm on 110k km now
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I think the Honda oil is adequate enough for normal day to day drive. No need oil that are too extreme smile.gif
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post Nov 23 2018, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 22 2018, 03:35 PM)
How is this oil doing?

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This oil is still doing fine and appears to be quite clear of grey dark contaminants, indicating good mechanical condition.
However, there is appearance of a centre zone perimeter ring that correlates with dispersancy capability of this used oil and that's something to keep watch, IMHO.
Having said this, I think this used oil is good to go on.

Cempedak has similar HGEO 0W30 in use and seems to have similar trends in emergence of perimeter ring at rather low oil mileage.

Maybe you should take another blotter spot 2000 - 3000 km down the road and see how the perimeter ring develops ?

Btw, what's the car/engine model in use ?
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post Nov 23 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 23 2018, 08:44 AM)
This oil is still doing fine and appears to be quite clear of grey dark contaminants, indicating good mechanical condition.
However, there is appearance of a centre zone perimeter ring that correlates with dispersancy capability of this used oil and that's something to keep watch, IMHO.
Having said this, I think this used oil is good to go on.

Cempedak has similar HGEO 0W30 in use and seems to have similar trends in emergence of perimeter ring at rather low oil mileage.

Maybe you should take another blotter spot 2000 - 3000 km down the road and see how the perimeter ring develops ?

Btw, what's the car/engine model in use ?
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Ok.. I will update you guys after another 3000KM. The car is Honda City 2010 model with L15A7. I take good care of the engine and seldom rev it above 3,000 RPM. Drive like an uncle in order not to stress out the engine and gearbox. Oil change are usually set at around 7 - 9k mileage.

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post Nov 23 2018, 01:42 PM

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All the EO masta here ...

I saw there are plenty of Shell Helix Ultra for sale in Giant for 85 each.

They are made in Europe but all the wording seems to indicate its for Russian market. What do you guys think of it ? Authentic ?
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post Nov 23 2018, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Nagashiro @ Nov 23 2018, 01:42 PM)
All the EO masta here ...

I saw there are plenty of Shell Helix Ultra for sale in Giant for 85 each.

They are made in Europe but all the wording seems to indicate its for Russian market. What do you guys think of it ? Authentic ?
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I can say for sure it's authentic for I had seen it's packaging (bought from Giant, but at RM99) and the blotter spot tests below:
5575 km
10099 km,
and going ....

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post Nov 24 2018, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 9 2018, 12:46 PM)
Good blotter spot test at 10060 km, no sign of centre zone perimeter ring indicating good detergency/dispersancy properties close to as new.
No dark grey dirt/contaminants in centre and intermediate zones,  indicating contaminant levels not very high at this high mileage.
No indication of fuels in outermost perimeter zone.
Engine appears to be in tip top conditions and well maintained.
This oil is still serviceable and could probably go for another 2000 - 4000 km and test.
Did you go on ?

Edit: Apologies for late response, alphaz.
Edit2: I personally consider this 10060 km SHU 5W30 blotter spot as performing relatively better than Honda 0W30 at 3750 km above.
Not trying to bash Honda 0W30 though.
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Follow up of my Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 at 14,000 km.

19 hour blot:

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37 hour blot:

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What do you think?
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learnt something new today, blotter test is totally new for me, tq TS
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QUOTE(alphaz @ Nov 24 2018, 06:54 AM)
Follow up of my Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 at 14,000 km.

19 hour blot:

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37 hour blot:

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I think its time to change your engine oil.. Looks brownish already. My guess is the brownish color particles are combustion soot.
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post Nov 25 2018, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 15 2018, 03:11 PM)
Wow, nice blotter spot test at 17000 km, Senscents.
No signs of perimeter ring near the centre zone, I would assess the oil detergency/dispersancy properties are in top form and there is probably still life in this oil.
As you took sample at cold, the fuel dilution can be observed at the outermost perimeter zone.
Btw,I would strongly recommend this Platinum Velocity 5W40 to the readers on lowyat using typical Asian engines .
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EO: Pennzoil Platinum Velocity 5w-40
Car: Perodua 2014
Engine: 1.3 auto
Millage: App. 22000 km
Odometer: App.91,000
Driving Condition: 50% City; 50% Highway




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post Nov 25 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Nov 25 2018, 02:13 AM)
EO: Pennzoil Platinum Velocity 5w-40
Car: Perodua 2014
Engine: 1.3 auto
Millage: App. 22000 km
Odometer: App.91,000
Driving Condition: 50% City; 50% Highway
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Wow, obscenely good 22000 km blotter spot test ......
and still showing absence of centre zone perimeter ring, indicating the used oil detergency/dispersancy properties are on top of situations.
The centre zone is generally not greyish dark for its long 22000 km usage, indicating clean engine oil condition with not much of contaminants and combustion byproducts.
Slight indications of fuel at the outermost zone.
My take is this used oil is still serviceable, yes I know it's already 22,000 km in use.
This Pennzoil Platinum Velocity 5W40 really don't play-play, as our bahasa says.
Strongly recommend this oil to lowyat readers here .
Thank you for posting , Senscents and you're adventurous and looks like in control of situations .

This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 25 2018, 06:03 PM
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post Nov 25 2018, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Nov 25 2018, 02:13 AM)
EO: Pennzoil Platinum Velocity 5w-40
Car: Perodua 2014
Engine: 1.3 auto
Millage: App. 22000 km
Odometer: App.91,000
Driving Condition: 50% City; 50% Highway
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Hi Sir, do you replace oil filter after, say 10k km usage ?
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post Nov 26 2018, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Nov 24 2018, 06:54 AM)
Follow up of my Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 at 14,000 km.

What do you think?
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Where you buy 5w30 helix ultra, local all i see is 5w40 version.

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post Nov 26 2018, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Nov 26 2018, 10:46 AM)
Where you buy 5w30 helix ultra, local all i see is 5w40 version.
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lazada

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.c3Km

Vanli also sells it at slightly cheaper price
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/shell-he...7.16389.99110.0

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