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 New Saga VVT Club V1 Thread, ~For New Saga owners~

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post Dec 27 2017, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(ayam_kampung @ Dec 26 2017, 09:10 PM)
well just back from COSE SC today (whole day from 9.15 am to 5 pm)
i can say this is correct. Proton guy remove completely the whole back parcel plus some plastic thing and add lot of sponge in between car frame and the parcel thing.

noise is gone but there still vibration sound (suspect the seat clamp as sound like hard disk spinning in casing) (sound like zeeeeerrrrr, zeerrrrrrr  biggrin.gif )

gonna add more sponge on external like you suggest
also had this issue.
when push the proton engineer guy (spot by looking at their badge when they look around my car), then he mention this is common issue as there first badge supplier for drum brake lining and house that cause the problem.

the housing (brake drum) on first batch tend to warp on high heat and cause the thing to expand uncontrollable (even show me some engineering document on this)

end up replacing both drum brake housing and lining on rear section.
conclusion... no more funny brake sound when slamming brake (use to have sound like someone knocking a metal door rapidly when slamming brake) (sound like tak, tak, tak  rclxms.gif )
this issue also solve there. tbh they mention that new firmware were flash as the OEM provide new firmware

(funny thing as this is only standard radio and not the android thingy and donno whether this is true or not)    blink.gif
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What to do at that place for so long ? For nearby bus to travel ?

I also want go HQ SC but too far
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post Dec 28 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Dec 14 2017, 07:09 PM)
I add some sponges in the spaces between the rear window and the parcel shelf
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Added some more behind the highlighted red area as well
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I add up to the point where the parcel shelf has no give at all when pushed
hope this helps
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well.... i can guarantee this is the solution for weird sound on back. today ayam notice there still sound and rage.... vmad.gif vmad.gif

go to tesco and buy 6X cheap sponges for dishwashing (4 pack per 1X which cost around 1.50 myr)

disassemble the back parcel, put the sponges as you mention all around and assemble back.

final result = no more sound thumbsup.gif

(ayam also found out that proton SC only put small layer of sponges and some insulation material but that no enough yo. make sure also to put at exact location of homerthewhopper mention for best maximum result)

QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Dec 27 2017, 10:29 PM)
What to do at that place for so long ? For nearby bus to travel ?

I also want go HQ SC but too far
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there a shuttle to subang parade and batu 3 KTM (back and forth) if you want to jalan2 while waiting for car to finish. just make sure to get the shuttle driver number in case you tertinggal or something.

proton COSE is also a great place to rilex. just bring laptop and charger, go to showroom area and find a lounge area. just sit there and browse internet (no body will bother you).
ayam normally do this as service waiting area normally pack with people. their cafe food also quite good (and cheap)

This post has been edited by ayam_kampung: Dec 28 2017, 04:02 PM
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post Dec 28 2017, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Jan 29 2017, 10:42 PM)
List of issues with mine so far with "possible" solutions..

1. Gearbox pvc leather cover got hole
    - SC have already ordered but not yet received since the last 4 months.

2. Small dent on rear left side of car
    - not noticeable unless you really look and search for it
    - did not complain to SC about this as god knows how long my car will be kept there to replace the rear boot panel.

3. Rear seat backrest latch problem after un-latching.
    - causing rattle sound
    - right latch cannot be re-latched. left side have to slam my rear backrest into position to lock.
    - SC ordered right side latch only since 1 month ago.

4. Steering wheel alignment off center.
    - meaning for my car to move straight the steering wheel must be turned slightly counter clockwise.
    - SC said can't help me with this as I've changed my stock rims but this issue existed before I changed them.
    - Have to do outside shop alignment then. Hopefully it will fix it but some say that this is one of a known plague of proton whereby the steering rack bush got issue.

5. Rattle noise like "stones in a glass jar vibrating" when going over uneven surfaces coming out from my glovebox area.
    - Highly likely is the latch and striker causing this sound as when I drive with glovebox opened, this issue is non-existed.
    - temporary solution is to tape the striker to reduce the sound but sound still exists (less often)
    - SC have no solution for this and also followed my method.

6. Absorber thump thump sound when going over bumps.
    - Very audible when driving without radio on.
    - Both front absorbers
    - SC have checked it twice (added some lubricant to the absorbers) but problem still persists. 3rd time go SC will request them to change both.

7. Highly likely drive shaft axle has gone bad
    - I'm really disappointed with this.
    - Refer to https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4180043
    - SC already confirmed drive shaft issue and order right side driveshaft. But I am having this issue when I turn left or right over bumps/sudden change in floor level.

8. Really poor performance & response when driving under 2k rpm.
    - this is when the engine is at operating temperature. When my engine is cold, performance is good and snappy most of the time (I'm not really sure is this all the time or not). Could be due to ecu pump rich a/f ratio during cold.
    - Also when driving at low speed and moderate rpm, when the aircon compressor kicks in, can definitely feel  my rpm dropped and a braking force exerted to my cars engine. In other words it sorts of jerked. In a manual...
    - Also, sometimes when shifting back to neutral and braking towards a stop. rpm stays at 1.5k and later on drops. refering to this (persoan vvt group)    https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4011234/+1540  , could be due to faulty brake stop switch. Will check with SC on my 3rd problems trip there.

9. Metal rattling sound coming from engine bay when engine is under load or at a hill and warmed up below 2k rpm (could be during cold but mostly during warm).
    - Sample similar sound here at around 00:10s (sry duno embed)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbi3FnuhTM...rLLRr-Q&index=1 
    - At first really worried as this might be pinging or pre-detonation sound coming from within my engines combustion chamber as in the short/long run will cause serious damage to my engine. I've researched that this is a common issue with campro engines especially during gen2 era (No one has a solid solution for this yet).
    - could be due to engine too hot and the mixture detonated before piston reaches top dead center. could be knock sensor problem. could be ron95 not compatible. could be bad cooling system. could be ecu problem. really lost here...

    - However from the video sample shown with similar sound, his solution was actually looking into the exhaust heat shield that was found to be loose. Thus this could be whats causing the issue. During my next trip to SC I will have them check this out also...
    - PLEASE BE EXHAUST HEAT SHIELD ISSUE...

---------------------------------------- End of issues currently with my Saga VVT manual 2016-------------------------------------------------------------

I will get myself an obd2 scanner as well for myself to diagnose my car to check if everything is supposed to be running as it should.

Again, car drives great but this issues (especially issue 7,8,9) must be solved asap before it gives birth to other issues. I guess in my case, its true that when u buy a proton u learn more about ur car and will have regular visits to the SC....

I am still keeping my calm as the car is still drive-able and not staying in SC emergency ward overnight....
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Steering wheel off center issue already solve or not for your car?
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post Dec 29 2017, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Dec 28 2017, 10:43 PM)
Steering wheel off center issue already solve or not for your car?
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Yes solved already. Do alignment @ outside tyre shop.
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post Dec 30 2017, 07:13 AM

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Ayam kampung.

I went to sc ipoh
Clarion. Player only has reset programme by clarion service center in PJ
They say no firmware upgrade
Maybe. Wrong words used by. Sc
Or perhaps. Sc office boy took your player to clarion for reset programme
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post Dec 30 2017, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(gunshead @ Dec 30 2017, 07:13 AM)
Ayam kampung.

I went to sc  ipoh
Clarion. Player only has    reset programme by clarion service center in PJ
They say no firmware upgrade
Maybe. Wrong words used by. Sc
Or perhaps. Sc office boy took your player to clarion for reset programme
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wrong word from SC?

maybe yes maybe no. if yes no wonder lah took long time (ayam don't mind long time since ayam normally go SC COSE on AL)

but well... it Proton. what do you expect ? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 8 2018, 07:33 PM

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Dear sifus,

One question bother me quite some time. Can I change the dry battery to wet battery for premium saga?
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post Jan 8 2018, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Suconey @ Jan 8 2018, 07:33 PM)
Dear sifus,

One question bother me quite some time. Can I change the dry battery to wet battery for premium saga?
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I dont think there is any problem , different or void warranty

But u guys can help to confirm this annoying sound. Happened since first week from driving until now one year. After shut off the engine, got this loud ''ting ting'' metal sound last for few minutes, definitely not air con sound. I cant find the source of sound and now getting louder

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post Jan 9 2018, 10:22 AM

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is that sound of metal contracting?
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post Jan 11 2018, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Jan 8 2018, 11:17 PM)
I dont think there is any problem , different or void warranty

But u guys can help to confirm this annoying sound. Happened since first week from driving until now one year. After shut off the engine, got this loud ''ting ting'' metal sound last for few minutes, definitely not air con sound. I cant find the source of sound and now getting louder

* Ignore the motorbike sound passby


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I've got the same noise too. But I just leave it, never really check where it comes from. Possibly water drops from aircond hose hitting the exhaust pipe. But can't be sure.....
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post Jan 11 2018, 11:54 PM

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My baby red now crank a lil bit longer like 3 sec during cold start, why ah?
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post Jan 13 2018, 03:53 PM

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If crank I’m not sure but during this raining season, my car will chocking after like 200m away from parking lots. Hopefully just cold weather nothing serious
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post Jan 13 2018, 03:56 PM

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Sifus, just now I notice that my car’s body got few scratches, any cheap alternative to cover is up to prevent rust and without spending alot?
Grey colour btw
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post Jan 13 2018, 04:42 PM

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try polish it. or the worst case go buy the paint pen
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post Jan 14 2018, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(icebryanchan @ Jan 13 2018, 04:42 PM)
try polish it. or the worst case go buy the paint pen
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Already did polished, look like gonna get a paint pen tho
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Hi Everyone. Been planning to change my gear to short shifter but wasn't sure where to do it, any recommendation and the price include installation is around how much?
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post Jan 18 2018, 09:52 AM

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anyone spotted silver premium model before? it seems like silver premium is really rare, i always seen red premiums.
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post Jan 18 2018, 10:28 AM

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ayam got accident last week... kereta terbabas masuk parit.

really kill the mood of 2018.

now car just sit on workshop for week already. really sway betul
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post Jan 18 2018, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ayam_kampung @ Jan 18 2018, 10:28 AM)
ayam got accident last week... kereta terbabas masuk parit.

really kill the mood of 2018.

now car just sit on workshop for week already. really sway betul
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important is you are safe. takde ESC ke? kena oil patch kah?
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QUOTE(singk @ Jan 18 2018, 09:52 AM)
anyone spotted silver premium model before? it seems like silver premium is really rare, i always seen red premiums.
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Got to think of it, I kinda regret not taking the silver premium when it was available. Dealer said grey out of stock then I said its ok I wait. I was so eager to get grey ones but then I saw A LOT of grey on the road. Damn son.

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