Hi all.

Creating a post for New Saga VVT.
Sorry no experience opening a club post.

Hope everyone can come join and share your experience, good or otherwise.

Owner of New Saga VVT:

1. Bojek 1.3 Premium CVT Genetic Silver
2. Smoochy Pooh 1.3 Premium CVT Fire Red
3. Imagination 1.3 Standard Manual Cotton White
4. m_m1 1.3 Premium CVT Grey
5. Ahmad Fikri Bin Mahmood 1.3 Executive CVT blue
6. Username is username 1.3 Premium CVT Quartz Black
7.Atsumori 1.3 Premium CVT Fire Red
8. kwlooi 1.3 premium CVT Cotton White
9. Princess Froggy 1.3 Premium Fire Red

This post has been edited by bojek: Oct 15 2017, 02:51 PM

*For further updates

https://i.imgur.com/hym8VuG.jpg

This post has been edited by bojek: Feb 5 2017, 12:13 PM

*For further updates

Lipoting in

I don't own a Saga but I can offer some advice for starting an owner's club..

1. Post promotional pictures/brochures of the Saga and put it on the first post.

2. Post videos/reviews of the Saga as well on the further updates post.

3. Service intervals, modifications, known problems and updates. Put it on spoilers to save space

Hope this helps for future threads

Saga VVT ni yang baru tu kah>

Betul. New one.

Thank you. Will update soon anything relelvant as mentioned.

My review, for reference. With updates 😀😀

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4103117

This post has been edited by Smoochy poohh: Feb 4 2017, 11:20 PM

White saga vvt standard manual here.

With a list of issues and potential solutions... (will post them later)

Why not include inside the old saga threads?
Still Proton Saga right?

Saga VVT is a totally different car, whilst FL & FLX are a facelift of BLM.
Different electronic, engine, & transmission. Hate to see that conflict between the Saga generations in FB group.

i thought they still used Saga BLM floor layout..

If u see.. Flx and fl and blm different gear box

While new saga and saga flx different type of campro

The platform is still the same, but with improvements.

Axia and Bezza also used the same platform, and it's not a same car right.

Hermm, but that one is totally different type of class.. as Saga FLX and New Saga still using same name..
Its ok, just weird to seperate it because it still using same layout..
Unlike Saga/Iswara and Saga BLM which totally different in all aspect..

What about Civic eg, ek, es, fd, fb, fc. It still using the same name. Imagine all of that generation being put in one group, different car different problem. Having a Honda S2000 as an avatar you should know this.

Talking about class, Blm, Fl, Flx are B segment. The new saga is A segment. There's a lot of improvement that proton gave to the new Saga. You can't fit the new Saga windows, bumper, body panel & headlights to Fl and Flx, same goes to Iswara and Magma.

Fl and Flx are facelift from Blm, so it is justified that they be in one group.

Saga vvt is a whole new car.

As Smoochy said, the platform is the exact same but the majority of the components are completely different. Therefore, it's best to seperare the two so that any information doesn't get mixed up and confused. If it's a minor facelift then they can be in the same thread

Basically, having a current gen and previous gen in the same thread means the owners have to scroll through irrelevant info from another car to get to any relevant info. Having a seperate thread eliminates that.

List of issues with mine so far with "possible" solutions..

1. Gearbox pvc leather cover got hole
- SC have already ordered but not yet received since the last 4 months.

2. Small dent on rear left side of car
- not noticeable unless you really look and search for it
- did not complain to SC about this as god knows how long my car will be kept there to replace the rear boot panel.

3. Rear seat backrest latch problem after un-latching.
- causing rattle sound
- right latch cannot be re-latched. left side have to slam my rear backrest into position to lock.
- SC ordered right side latch only since 1 month ago.

4. Steering wheel alignment off center.
- meaning for my car to move straight the steering wheel must be turned slightly counter clockwise.
- SC said can't help me with this as I've changed my stock rims but this issue existed before I changed them.
- Have to do outside shop alignment then. Hopefully it will fix it but some say that this is one of a known plague of proton whereby the steering rack bush got issue.

5. Rattle noise like "stones in a glass jar vibrating" when going over uneven surfaces coming out from my glovebox area.
- Highly likely is the latch and striker causing this sound as when I drive with glovebox opened, this issue is non-existed.
- temporary solution is to tape the striker to reduce the sound but sound still exists (less often)
- SC have no solution for this and also followed my method.

6. Absorber thump thump sound when going over bumps.
- Very audible when driving without radio on.
- Both front absorbers
- SC have checked it twice (added some lubricant to the absorbers) but problem still persists. 3rd time go SC will request them to change both.

7. Highly likely drive shaft axle has gone bad
- I'm really disappointed with this.
- Refer to https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4180043
- SC already confirmed drive shaft issue and order right side driveshaft. But I am having this issue when I turn left or right over bumps/sudden change in floor level.

8. Really poor performance & response when driving under 2k rpm.
- this is when the engine is at operating temperature. When my engine is cold, performance is good and snappy most of the time (I'm not really sure is this all the time or not). Could be due to ecu pump rich a/f ratio during cold.
- Also when driving at low speed and moderate rpm, when the aircon compressor kicks in, can definitely feel my rpm dropped and a braking force exerted to my cars engine. In other words it sorts of jerked. In a manual...
- Also, sometimes when shifting back to neutral and braking towards a stop. rpm stays at 1.5k and later on drops. refering to this (persoan vvt group) https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4011234/+1540 , could be due to faulty brake stop switch. Will check with SC on my 3rd problems trip there.

9. Metal rattling sound coming from engine bay when engine is under load or at a hill and warmed up below 2k rpm (could be during cold but mostly during warm).
- Sample similar sound here at around 00:10s (sry duno embed) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCbi3FnuhTM...rLLRr-Q&index=1
- At first really worried as this might be pinging or pre-detonation sound coming from within my engines combustion chamber as in the short/long run will cause serious damage to my engine. I've researched that this is a common issue with campro engines especially during gen2 era (No one has a solid solution for this yet).
- could be due to engine too hot and the mixture detonated before piston reaches top dead center. could be knock sensor problem. could be ron95 not compatible. could be bad cooling system. could be ecu problem. really lost here...

- However from the video sample shown with similar sound, his solution was actually looking into the exhaust heat shield that was found to be loose. Thus this could be whats causing the issue. During my next trip to SC I will have them check this out also...
- PLEASE BE EXHAUST HEAT SHIELD ISSUE...

---------------------------------------- End of issues currently with my Saga VVT manual 2016-------------------------------------------------------------

I will get myself an obd2 scanner as well for myself to diagnose my car to check if everything is supposed to be running as it should.

Again, car drives great but this issues (especially issue 7,8,9) must be solved asap before it gives birth to other issues. I guess in my case, its true that when u buy a proton u learn more about ur car and will have regular visits to the SC....

I am still keeping my calm as the car is still drive-able and not staying in SC emergency ward overnight....

This post has been edited by Imagination *-*: Jan 29 2017, 10:43 PM

Why it's always the standard Saga that is problematic.