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Ramjade
post Sep 23 2017, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatjoe @ Sep 23 2017, 10:42 PM)
ramjade so if i am interested in singapore reit how do i get about doing that? buy through fundsupermart singapore?
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Surprising yes. FSM SG is only SG broker which allow people to open online and does not require SG bank account.

Keep in mind, somewhere down the road, they may introduce platform fees for their brokerage account (maybe 5 years later)


If you want to by UT, avoid them at all cost.

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post Sep 24 2017, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 23 2017, 11:15 PM)
Hehehehe
U got logic point...
Well some are really going all out for foreign investment... Didn't actually think all the risk properly blush.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Sep 24 2017, 04:12 PM)
As1m dividend 6%???
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Source?

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post Sep 24 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(yvonne2016 @ Sep 24 2017, 08:19 PM)
Hopefully more than 6% ,
anyway, announcement of Div when err ?
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Won't one. All amanah saham track each other closely. Add in stingy wahid, don't hope more than 6% sad.gif
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post Sep 25 2017, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 24 2017, 11:46 PM)
Bro,... you are really a bigmouth,...

First,.. look at your top post, you hammered me saying I SAID we needed 10m to invest overseas. When did I say that ????? I always said start small,.. and you said I posted in every thread everywhere about this,.. Really putting words into my mouth with your bigmouth.

Then you turned round and sid can strt ti invest overseas slowly,.. and you gave egs,...

Why are you conflicting yourself with your bigmouth insinuations ??

You expect people to teach and give methods (shortcuts) by your very behaviour like this,... ??

I'd rather tech via PM like this, and let you learn the hard way than to post here and teach you the shortcuts,... real bullshit behaviour you're demonstrating there,...
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Actually your post(s) seems to indicate everyone must invest overseas even if they have no money (from the tone of writing). I am telling you what common malaysians face. That RM10m was just a figure which I pluck from the sky which one can take it seriously or just ignore it. I can put figure at RM100m or RM2.6b too. whistling.gif whistling.gif Your post never mentioned anything about starting small (I have never read any of your post saying to start small. All your post are we should invest our money overseas)...

When people have no money to even invest overseas, how to invest? That's the first problem most malaysians face. I don't think you gave this a thought (again from your post tone) I give example that investing overseas in US at say min USD500 is it worth it? TT + bank fees+ brokerage already kill the person profit. And as I said USD10k to start, now again how many normal hardworking malaysians can cough out USD10k just like that. What if they lose that USD10k? How long will they need to work to get back that USD10k? USD10k is hell lot of money. No need to mention US.
That's why I come to the next statement. Save up a bit first (takes few years). That time, when you have choice to dump say RM12k into amanah saham/USD3k/SGD4k, that is when you make the choice.

The second problem malaysian face: Mentality. How many people want to learn new things? Why should I bother about overseas investment when I can seat back and be safe in Malaysia? That's typical mentality.

The third problem: How many Malaysians got time to moniter portfolio all over the world? Not everyone got the luxury to do it.

Up to you to interpret what I said. But I am stating facts (from common people point of view) as I am a common people.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Sep 25 2017, 12:22 AM
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post Sep 25 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 25 2017, 12:19 AM)
Somehow,... I don't feel like debating with you,... no point letting you learn what I know,...

I learnt the hard way,... why should I give you the easy way when you're such bigmouth ? One thing I dislike,... well,... never mind,...

I was not born with golden spoon too,...

Take care,....
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You don't need to debate because I believe what I state are facts. First problem Malaysians face: No money. And if they start having the money, they need to make sure they are able to protect it.

It's not about being big mouth. It's about how do average Malaysians feel if one keeps asking them to invest overseas if they have no money. Normal grads are only earning say RM3k+. Minus kids (if they have one) + car loan + house loan + student loan (if they have one). Not much is left. They need to wait at least few years before they can venture out.

I know many people who earn RM3k and basically trying to stay alive and last thing on their mind is about investing overseas. Their main priorities are:
1) get though the month
2) put food on the table
3) save whatever they have for emergency fund even if is just RM50

So if RM50/month savings, how on earth are they going to invest overseas?

These are real people working/staying in JB/KL.
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Sep 25 2017, 10:47 AM)
ah.. i see.. sad.gif so, for non-bumi, only these 3 options? which is better? smile.gif
btw, I have ASW2020 that was bought by my dad long time ago.. I wonder can I top up?
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They are more or less the same. Of course can, Popularity of Amanah saham is in this rannking ASW > ASM > AS1M
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post Sep 25 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Sep 25 2017, 10:50 AM)
cool, that means I already have the best option .. LOL
then I just need to top up .. my father bought it long long time ago.. thus , i thought it's not available now anymore.. =_=
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Topup using MyASNB. Topup can only be done if units are available (got people sell). Depends on how you look at it. If you want 3x/year payout, put money into all 3. If you don't mind once a year, then pick what you like.
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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Sep 25 2017, 10:56 AM)
ehhh... isnt it the same if you invest 3000 to 3 different account or 3000 to 1 account?
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Well savvyaunty did a calculation that buying ASM will give higher return if all return the same amount (something about being paid first). Not so sure about this.

Like I said, you can be paid RM60 x 3x/year or you can take RM180/year (one time)
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post Sep 25 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 25 2017, 09:08 PM)
hi  smile.gif  i dont have wawasan 2020 account , how about CIMB account  , as i see myASNB agent got under CIMB too ,

It is i must personally open an wawasan 2020 under the bank list agent then only can continue top up my $$ thru online ?

sorry asking double question because this is my first time buying share .
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Don't have means have to open loh. If you keras want to open only ASW, you might not be able to topup as that's among the hardest thing to open/topup. Cimb is just an agent where you can go to open. However, Cimb are known to be acing hence you basically cannot open anything if you go to them.

Go to affin bank/asnb office for best chance. On 2/10, AS1M will resume for transaction. You definitely can open AS1M and topup on that day.

This is not share. This is fixed price unit trust sweat.gif

QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 25 2017, 09:21 PM)
can new account be open for amanah saham fixed fund like asw or asm nowadays? if yes any tips on best ways to do so? planning to do for my kid.

and how to do/change nominations for the sum that you have in the amanah saham? any guide that can share. thanks
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Can but hard. See my reply above.
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post Sep 26 2017, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 26 2017, 11:12 AM)
thanks. do you know the fee of rm100 is once off or per year? can this be submitted and done at banks?

opening account, can i just swap some of my units to the new account under my son?
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RM100 is one time but there will be yearly charges + when you die, ASNB will take a bite out from the amount (forget the %). The more you have inside, the less chunk they take out,

Cannot.

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post Sep 26 2017, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 26 2017, 11:24 AM)
worth it to subscribe to this? not familiar with will n inheritance process n requirement.

take a percentage from a dead person sumore 😅
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Depends. This amanah saham one let the people receive it in units rather than cash. Is faster than will. Will, the person receives in cash and is slower.

Is inside the form or you can ask them (go to ASNB office and enquire)
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post Sep 26 2017, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 26 2017, 09:10 PM)
Now can open without units inside? Nice. Attracting more people to put money in ASNB instead of bank.
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Actually since last time memang can open with zero units but last time when got book, if got no unit, they will cut the book and close account

QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 26 2017, 09:12 PM)
dear saitong , are you sure you can open an account without any units can buy ??

what is the another 2 account that you open with no units ??

by the way , how do i know when will be the dividend  will give every years ?
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Actually since last time memang can open with zero units but last time when got book, if got no unit, they will cut the book and close account

See first page. You should be more worried what's the dividend for upcoming years instead of when is the dividend as dividend have been dropping year after year.

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post Sep 26 2017, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 26 2017, 09:50 PM)
i will try to open my account too .

by the way ,

Did you guys think i can open my MSASNB account at MAYBANK KLCC BRANCH ?? that is the only branch which nearer to my place and it open during weekend and public holiday .

I found the info here > http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...&cntKey=CS07.12

But my question is , it is possible to open my  MYASNB account at KLCC MAYBANK branch during weekend ??
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MyASNB is online account which you can open yourself online only after getting ASW2020/ASM/AS1M.
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post Sep 26 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 26 2017, 11:19 PM)
Sorry for confusing .

My main concern here is .

Can I open my amanah saham 1 Malaysia and wawasan 2020 at klcc Maybank branch during weekend ?
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Weekend hardly have transaction. Lower chance to get.
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post Sep 28 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(sijee @ Sep 28 2017, 12:31 PM)
1) How do a Malaysian open a simple CA or SA account in SG?

2) What are the fees to maintain the SG account(not premier account)? ...especially at the initial stage when you have little knowledge of investable products in SG.

Please share your thoughts or experiences. TIA
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If you don't want to go down SG and not a priority customer, there's only one way. Maybank isavvy.
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Basically is you go download Maybank iSavvy pdf form online (look for the latest date). Fill it up, go to the selected Maybank branches which process application for iSavvy (is listed on the form), buy a bank draft (pay to yourself in SGD, min SGD500) from Maybank Malaysia, go to the counter which do iSavvy application, submit all required documents, now you seat back and contact Maybank SG after 3 weeks to esquire the status of application. If all goes well, you will receive your welcoming package in the mail box by 4th-5th week.


2) each account is different. Some require SGD3000 or else you will be charged. For the account above, you need to keep SGD500.

If you want to go down, then more options are available on this thread.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1440794

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post Sep 28 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 28 2017, 03:21 PM)
To open amanah saham wawasan 2020 ,
It is i can open at any Maybank Branch ?

Possible to open at cyberjaya Maybank branch
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Any of those agents if they choose to entertain you. If not, well too bad. That's why people say go for Affin/ASNB banches as they will really try for you multiple times to open.
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(sijee @ Sep 28 2017, 06:44 PM)
Thanks for the kind offer. I would like to open a basic SG account without going to SG to keep it simple.
Thanks for the heads up. Found the Maybank isavvy "HOW TO APPLY ONLINE" link below. Looks simple enough to follow.
http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/depo...ount.aspx#apply

Also read the part about FEES AND CHARGES and FAQs  at the bottom.
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Application cannot be done via Maybank SG website. It must be done by post from malaysia site.

Feesof SGD2/month only if your balance fall below SGD500/day. If your account maintain with SGD500, no fees.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2017, 07:58 PM)
Yes. It's 6% as expected icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 28 2017, 09:39 PM)
Need to get some opinion from you guys .

Currently I have amanah saham wawasan 2020 and I had invest about 30k for few years .

And I found out amanah saham Malaysia also not bad , shall I open a new account and buy amanah saham Malaysia ,

Or I should focus on only one fund ?
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Up to you. They are all the same (returns) with ASW2020 being the hardest to get. If you want one lump sum payment, then invest in 1 fund lo. If you want to be paid 3x/year, then open all 3.
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QUOTE(life27 @ Sep 28 2017, 09:47 PM)
Thank you for your feedback .

But I am still confusing , I shall focus on one UNIT trust only or I shall open one more account to invest a bit ..

From your point of view, so open one account or open 3 account is eventually same ?
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Open 3 funds means you got chance to topup 3 funds instead of just one. If one only, if you cannot topup that, means need to wait for another time. You can't spam the account the whole day right? With 2 other account, you can try luck with the other 2 if ASW2020 don't have.

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