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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V)发 8ight 发, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Sep 11 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Sep 11 2017, 10:00 AM)
The ASW ran out of units available, isnt it too early?
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Where got early? So many days already after dividend date. Sure kering already. That day got people report lots of unit available on 2nd day.
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post Sep 11 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Sep 11 2017, 10:40 AM)
Unker sapu some last week dy, today another batch of FD mature, ingat nak sapu
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1/10 coming. AS1M will be up for grabs. Can park in MMF first or affin hwang select bond fund first, then make withdrawal before 1/10.

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post Sep 11 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(wkalvin @ Sep 11 2017, 12:22 PM)
is that means AS1M better than Affin Hwang select bond ?  planned to put in some Affin Hwang, or should try AS1M?
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AS!M - instant withdrawal, you can't lose your money
Affin hwang seelct bond fund - takes few days to get back your money, value can drop (good evidence when Trump become president where this fund is also not immune and drop)

Your choice.
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post Sep 11 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Nom-el @ Sep 11 2017, 12:46 PM)
Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund is not a good choice for really short-term (less than a month) funds. The price can go up & down as well in the near term and one can only get the proceeds within 10 days after selling it.
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It can go up and down but not much. The amount it goes up > amount it goes down.
Go to FSM MY > research > chart centre > Type Affin hwang select bond fund > click 1 month
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post Sep 12 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Sep 12 2017, 11:19 AM)
ASX for non bumi withdrawing can get the cash on the spot?
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If more than RM25k, no. If you want to withdraw more than RM25k, ASNB > Bank account > cash. Rm1m also no problem. tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Sep 12 2017, 11:49 AM)
Thanks. How about transfer to Kid's and Spouse's ASX? I called the ASNB officer told me can do over the counter/agent. Any one did that before?
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No transferring allowed. Unless you
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2) sell then buy back. But by the time you buy back, can say bye.gif bye.gif
- This one got people done before. Go to a state where ASNB is open for transaction on Sunday and perform it.

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post Sep 12 2017, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Sep 12 2017, 12:08 PM)
WTH the ASNB officer bluff me, too bad kids ASX cannot buy online. Have try try over the counter sad.gif
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Well technically he/she didn't bluff you. You can transfer but need to sell first tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(houseman @ Sep 14 2017, 02:46 PM)
guys just a question : does it mean it does not matter how long ago u bought the units. Eg : In AS1M, it will be calculated base on how much units u have before Sept 30?
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It matters when you buy it as dividend is calculated based on lowest amount of the month. The final amount = 12 months of calculated dividends.
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post Sep 14 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Sep 14 2017, 04:13 PM)
What ever invested this month don't have dividend for that particular month
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Correction. Whatever you topup now, won't be counted but will be counted for next month.
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Sep 15 2017, 07:31 AM)
Yup.
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Please get your facts right. It matters when you bought them. Dividend is calculated based on lowest amount per month.

If you buy today vs buying on 1/9, big difference you know. If you buy today, it's not counted for sept. If you buy on 1/9, it's counted into Sept dividend.

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post Sep 18 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 18 2017, 06:14 PM)
1. No more noob asking how/where/what, etc
2. All top up kenyang-kenyang
3. Some still trying but very less units
4. Tunggu gaji masuk
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5. Tunggu cash out thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2017, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 19 2017, 03:07 PM)
its been some time din login here. How s d business everyone ?

keep topping up ?
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Lots of new people topping up. Me just waiting for SGD to down some more before I make a withdrawal. 6% don't seems very attractive anymore. Park any unused money inside here first while waiting for chance.

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post Sep 19 2017, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 19 2017, 05:26 PM)
Still want to wait? Later it climb back up to 3.17 and you will hold and curse MYR again. It's lowest since July, apa lagi lu mau

Other currencies like AUD, Euro shows signs of strengthening already. MYR strength as you can observe for the past 2 years doesn't hold longer than 2 weeks. It's likely the end of this wave
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Wow. You come in here and stalk me here too? blink.gif shocking.gif ph34r.gif
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post Sep 20 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 20 2017, 12:11 PM)
5.55% ONLY ?????????????????
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Guessing only. Not confirm.
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post Sep 20 2017, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 20 2017, 03:00 PM)
Hi, is the the asw2020 and asm dividend is calculated daily based on the amount of balance in the account? so if deposit top up later will get less dividen than top up earlier?
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Based on the lowest amount of the month

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Eg 1
You have RM1k from august. You add RM1k today and didn't make a withdrawal, for the month of sept, your dividend calculated is from RM1k and not RM2k

Eg 2
You have RM1k from august. You somehow manage to add RM1k  on 1/9 and didn't make a withdrawal. Dividend for month of sept will be calculated from RM2k

Eg 3
You have RM1k from august. You add RM1k today, you withdraw RM500, dividend for the month of sept will be calculated from RM500.

Eg 4
You have RM1k from august. You somehow manage to add RM1k  on 1/9. You withdraw RM500 on 30/9. Dividend calculated will use RM1500.

So if you want to benefit, topup on 30/31/1 of the month

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post Sep 20 2017, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 20 2017, 03:08 PM)
i see. so either u top up towards the end of the previous month or the 1st of the current month.

but is my under standing correct that if you top up 5 months before the dividend cut off date (no withdrawal), the dividend will be higher than if you top up of same amount 1 month before the dividen cut off date (no withdrawal).

of which it means that the dividen is monthly calculated.
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True. Check out the excel.
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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ Sep 20 2017, 03:40 PM)
i saw in the previous pages that some sort of online portal for the sales of the asw and asm2020. is that currently available ?

if not is the process at the counter rather easy to liquidate or not?

thks
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Myasnb. Only for buying. To sell, you still need to go to counter. You will received money on the spot.

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post Sep 23 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 23 2017, 11:27 AM)
Yes, bro,... even higher than mortgage loan rate,... so, can put the funds inside here and then take-out a loan,.. net-net still 'untung',....

Bro,... learn some REIT investments,.. the ones in SG if you can,... the years put in to learn is important, start earlier,...

Try to open accts before the doors are all closed !
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Not everybody want to venture out. Asal more than FD is more than enough for most people.

QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 23 2017, 11:32 AM)
My thinking has evolved, bro,.....

1) when starting ... low risk and decent %,...
2) after sometime ... low risk, decent percentage, and HIGHER percentage with reasonable risk,...
3) when more experienced ... even higher % with proper risk mitigation in place,..

I think cannot stay put,... disruptors will come in,... when I was talking with Heng Swee Keat many years ago, he already told us this,...

One must start early to catch the knowledge and the exposure,... I think having money or not is not really that important anymore,.. it's the knowledge and knowing well what to do,.. AND having the platform to do it.

Looks to me like the bloody platforms around the world are closing up !
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No money how to invest overseas? Eg. Some platform require USD10k to open. Now tell me how many can cough up RM43k just like that. To some people RM43k is one year salary.

Not everyone is loaded. Normal people have car loan, house loan, student loan, insurance, bills. Leftover how to invest overseas? If invest say USD500, bank TT + brokerage fees already eat up 20%. So how to invest?

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post Sep 23 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 23 2017, 01:57 PM)
LOL FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY
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That's what I have been trying to tell him don't know how many threads/posts already but he thinks everyone got rm10m in bank account.
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post Sep 23 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Sep 23 2017, 05:37 PM)
Still a high risk because interest rate may change and you're suddenly stuck with higher debt rate locally...as well as lower return overseas should regional economy impacted.

Should not use debt to leverage, betul tak Ramjade  hmm.gif

Ramjade means so fast after join worklife your savings UP UP UP and enough for overseas investment?  biggrin.gif  brows.gif
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Malaysia interest rate cannot go up. Too many people have debts.

Depend on how you use debt leverage. Can use for trading or use to gain double amount of dividends. 6% dividend can be 12% - debt interest.

Me? Rather than channel what I have into malaysia anymore, slowly I shift them to SG. Nothing much but enough where returns are decent 3 digit cash per year. sad.gif In SG I pay nothing for their UT. No service charge, no platform fees. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif If buy from FSM MY I lose 1.75% already.

QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Sep 23 2017, 06:16 PM)
Still quite high risk I feel. Investing overseas has much more variables - forex rates, political situation in other countries etc and anytime debts % rate may go up

Maybe I'm more conservative in taking risk  hmm.gif
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I am also conservative.

If you have no money, stay in malaysia first. Build up your cash. Start slow.

Once you have sufficient cash, start going out. That time you have a choice to choose continue investing locally or overseas. Eg. You have RM12k cash in hand. You can choose to continue to dump that RM12k into amanah saham, or you can dump into SG reits/UT and earn that same 6% I park in amanah saham first until I see favorable rate, then I convert. That's is what I am doing now. Go slow. Invest say SGD2-3k/each time as I am not loaded. sad.gif If 3x is too high for you, can consider HK. Only 2x our currency.
Reason: RM long term trend will go down (10 years+)
A 6% returns in malaysia is not the same as 6% overseas over the long term.

Hope this help.

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post Sep 23 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(savvyaunty @ Sep 23 2017, 07:36 PM)
Still in the process of building warchest for investment and ASx is a good place as temporary "safe box". Relatively higher dividend compared to other saving options like FD. The difficulty of buying units makes me reluctant to sell and luckily cannot sell online. Sometimes hard to accumulate with housing loan, car loan, insurance and rising inflation. Even eating mixed rice these days so expensive.  cry.gif

Definitely will venture out once there's sufficient funds. No point losing out on brokerage fees etc
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Once you have the taste of alternative safe stuff (not stocks) which can give you same return, you will never have attachment to amanah saham anymore. Is something you need to taste yourself. The only thing I truly miss is instant liquidity.

I am talking about stuff like
- Affin hwang select bond fund (for malaysia UT)
- Some specific UT in SG which can match affin hwang select bond fund.


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