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ernie ball
post Aug 13 2017, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(axsatr @ Aug 13 2017, 07:53 PM)
ah, you didn't tag me properly, mine is a Jazz E, not the hybrid.

But for normal Jazz 1.5, RPM at 110 km/h is very low (~2100 rpm).
Tyre noise is present, but wind noise and engine noise is very minimal.
When it rains, there's no tin milo sound from the roof.

Overall I'm very much happy with it, but I came from a Malaysia C-seg (Preve).
I'm not sure how it will compare to foreign C-segs.

Sorry.
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Thanks for the reply!
2.1krpm is not that bad.. originally was expecting 3krpm.

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post Aug 13 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Aug 13 2017, 09:23 PM)
Thanks for the reply!
2.1krpm is not that bad.. originally was expecting 3krpm.
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You think Jazz is myvi meh...? Even myvi 4-speeder is around 2.8k... My old Jazz 5-speeder also 2.4k only...
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post Aug 13 2017, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Aug 13 2017, 08:21 PM)
Wah so Jazz is 2nd car or change from Preve to Jazz?
oh ya, the pre fl for E only got 2 airbag right ?
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A single person doesn't really need two cars
I think the roads are congested enough as it is sweat.gif sweat.gif

For me, so far; my experience as a normal (read non-ricer) driver is the Jazz >> Preve (no matter what others say).
Yes, I agree, there are things that the Preve is better at (i.e. handling, high speed stability)

But what I wanted from my car is fuel economy, practical interior, reliability and good NVH
And the preve had none of these.

Worse still, my preve had engine issues (1 year old - occasionally can't start first try, must wait few minutes and then try again)
And then there was the other problems, all in 1 year - maybe I got a lemon
i) Disc brake judder (fixed)
ii) Slow power window after 1 year
iii) Electrical noise/odd sound from meter when start - like short (not there when new)
iv) Wind noise at 90 km/h
v) ESC light
vi) Seat internal spring came off
vii) Alignment that could never be perfectly corrected - I even tried the famous Ah Ching shop in Seremban, still pulls left

When I wanted to sell of my Preve, some use car dealers weren't even interested in it.
Heck, it's now been 5 months since I sold my car, it's still sitting at the dealer, unsold
Glad it's not my problem anymore rclxm9.gif

Just my opinion, in case you're wondering why I downgraded segment biggrin.gif
prasys
post Aug 13 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(axsatr @ Aug 13 2017, 09:38 PM)
A single person doesn't really need two cars
I think the roads are congested enough as it is  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

For me, so far; my experience as a normal (read non-ricer) driver is the Jazz >> Preve (no matter what others say).
Yes, I agree, there are things that the Preve is better at (i.e. handling, high speed stability)

But what I wanted from my car is fuel economy, practical interior, reliability and good NVH
And the preve had none of these.

Worse still, my preve had engine issues (1 year old - occasionally can't start first try, must wait few minutes and then try again)
And then there was the other problems, all in 1 year - maybe I got a lemon
i) Disc brake judder (fixed)
ii) Slow power window after 1 year
iii) Electrical noise/odd sound from meter when start - like short (not there when new)
iv) Wind noise at 90 km/h
v) ESC light
vi) Seat internal spring came off
vii) Alignment that could never be perfectly corrected - I even tried the famous Ah Ching shop in Seremban, still pulls left

When I wanted to sell of my Preve, some use car dealers weren't even interested in it.
Heck, it's now been 5 months since I sold my car, it's still sitting at the dealer, unsold
Glad it's not my problem anymore  rclxm9.gif

Just my opinion, in case you're wondering why I downgraded segment biggrin.gif
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just curious - why E spec and not the hybrid ?
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post Aug 14 2017, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 13 2017, 09:51 PM)
just curious - why E spec and not the hybrid ?
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Simple, DCT.
I'm already getting good FC anyway.

Hondas statement saying that they tested the car for 7000 kms was also really unconvincing
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:41 AM

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Hi all member

Wife planning to get jazz

Any salesperson recommend?can pm contact?

Area kl gombak

TQ
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 13 2017, 01:21 PM)
Is it with regular D with eco ?

Have you tried in S mode , it should keep the engine on all the times + motor assisting
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Yes you are correct, haha.

I havent touch the s mode since after the first week. For now, im trying to see how good to fc can go.

Perhaps, later I wont even bother to look at the fc panel.
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Boom Mortar @ Aug 14 2017, 09:41 AM)
Hi all member

Wife planning to get jazz

Any salesperson recommend?can pm contact?

Area kl gombak

TQ
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I got a sales person tho in Wangsa Maju

QUOTE(Miwqa @ Aug 14 2017, 09:56 AM)
Yes you are correct, haha.

I havent touch the s mode since after the first week. For now, im trying to see how good to fc can go.

Perhaps, later I wont even bother to look at the fc panel.
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Turn off eco and switch it to S

The reason being is that eco + D is a bad combination , it tries the best to delay throttle response

If you use S , the electric motor is used as a 'turbo' and the engine always runs , so you would have the power when you need it
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post Aug 14 2017, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 14 2017, 09:57 AM)
I got a sales person tho in Wangsa Maju

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can pm contact?

TQ
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post Aug 14 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(axsatr @ Aug 13 2017, 09:38 PM)
A single person doesn't really need two cars
I think the roads are congested enough as it is  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

For me, so far; my experience as a normal (read non-ricer) driver is the Jazz >> Preve (no matter what others say).
Yes, I agree, there are things that the Preve is better at (i.e. handling, high speed stability)

But what I wanted from my car is fuel economy, practical interior, reliability and good NVH
And the preve had none of these.

Worse still, my preve had engine issues (1 year old - occasionally can't start first try, must wait few minutes and then try again)
And then there was the other problems, all in 1 year - maybe I got a lemon
i) Disc brake judder (fixed)
ii) Slow power window after 1 year
iii) Electrical noise/odd sound from meter when start - like short (not there when new)
iv) Wind noise at 90 km/h
v) ESC light
vi) Seat internal spring came off
vii) Alignment that could never be perfectly corrected - I even tried the famous Ah Ching shop in Seremban, still pulls left

When I wanted to sell of my Preve, some use car dealers weren't even interested in it.
Heck, it's now been 5 months since I sold my car, it's still sitting at the dealer, unsold
Glad it's not my problem anymore  rclxm9.gif

Just my opinion, in case you're wondering why I downgraded segment biggrin.gif
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Ahhh i see. Didnt expect that bad from preve. Like you said, mybe you got lemon unit.

For my problem with jazz (first batch 2014)

Seat got (kuak kuak) noise when you move your body (solved)
Rattle sound quite noticeable (not yet solve, cant even find when the rattle come from haih)
Right front bumper got teat (send sc 3 times ady and still not solve)

Mostly problems with the quality haih
The rest just fine (cukurrr)
Saja share my car problem since 2014 biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2017, 03:30 PM

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On paper Preve has everything better than most cars in the same price range , unfortunately their QC is an issue. Otherwise I would get one too.

I had a young colleague who bought a Preve. He was telling how good the specs are vs other cars and bought one. The earlier batch.
Then we had a company trip and he drove his car to my house to park bcos I was driving outstation and he carpool with me. He asked me for some old newspaper.

I said wtf u need old newspapers for?

He said dunwan to dirty my porch bcos his car leak oil. Not even 1year old car.

Wtf.. Best spec car but leaking oil.


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post Aug 14 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Aug 14 2017, 03:22 PM)
Ahhh i see. Didnt expect that bad from preve. Like you said, mybe you got lemon unit.

For my problem with jazz (first batch 2014)

Seat got (kuak kuak) noise when you move your body (solved)
Rattle sound quite noticeable (not yet solve, cant even find when the rattle come from haih)
Right front bumper got teat (send sc 3 times ady and still not solve)

Mostly problems with the quality haih
The rest just fine (cukurrr)
Saja share my car problem since 2014 biggrin.gif
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Regarding the rattle noise, mine is coming from the right front passenger seat aircond duct area. It is due to the aircond duct does not have proper foam insulation to soften the vibration and thus knocking the dashboard.
Slide a folded piece of anti-skid mat between the aircond duct and the dashboard, the noise will be gone.
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post Aug 14 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Aug 14 2017, 03:22 PM)
Ahhh i see. Didnt expect that bad from preve. Like you said, mybe you got lemon unit.

For my problem with jazz (first batch 2014)

Seat got (kuak kuak) noise when you move your body (solved)
Rattle sound quite noticeable (not yet solve, cant even find when the rattle come from haih)
Right front bumper got teat (send sc 3 times ady and still not solve)

Mostly problems with the quality haih
The rest just fine (cukurrr)
Saja share my car problem since 2014 biggrin.gif
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Yeah, for me cheap cars especially <100k i can forgive the rattles.
The cheaper it is, the more I forgive sweat.gif

As long as it's safe and reliable, I'm more than happy smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Aug 14 2017, 09:57 AM)
I got a sales person tho in Wangsa Maju
Turn off eco and switch it to S

The reason being is that eco + D is a bad combination , it tries the best to delay throttle response

If you use S , the electric motor is used as a 'turbo' and the engine always runs , so you would have the power when you need it
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Yes, the econ is a bad idea, it makes the car feels lethargic. I suppose you don't really need them when the car is already a hybrid.?.

Now I just drive it normally, the driving experience is wayy better. Plus the fc doesn't change much. Still managing 23km/l.


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post Aug 14 2017, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(Miwqa @ Aug 14 2017, 09:03 PM)
Yes, the econ is a bad idea, it makes the car feels lethargic. I suppose you don't really need them when the car is already a hybrid.?.

Now I just drive it normally, the driving experience is wayy better. Plus the fc doesn't change much. Still managing 23km/l.
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23km/l that's a lot ! Let me know full tank can reach how many km. I am guessing close to 800km

econ controls throttle response , it tries the best to keep the car in battery mode and engine in reduced power mode. May not be economical at all
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post Aug 15 2017, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(pikkidok @ Aug 14 2017, 03:30 PM)
On paper Preve has everything better than most cars in the same price range , unfortunately their QC is an issue. Otherwise I would get one too.

I had a young colleague who bought a Preve. He was telling how good the specs are vs other cars and bought one. The earlier batch.
Then we had a company trip and he drove his car to my house to park bcos I was driving outstation and he carpool with me. He asked me for some old newspaper.

I said wtf u need old newspapers for?

He said dunwan to dirty my porch bcos his car leak oil. Not even 1year old car.

Wtf.. Best spec car but leaking oil.
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I also thinking to buy Suprima before this. But with not reliable and refine with bad QC i take jazz instead. On paper yes very good car with lotus handling and so on. But still i can built my Jazzy slowly laugh.gif

This post has been edited by perrrhhh: Aug 15 2017, 01:42 AM
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Can GK5 unit use the new facelift body kit?

I want get reverse camera too
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post Aug 15 2017, 02:54 PM

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Wondering is it better for me to replace the brake pads at any official Honda Service Centre or just go for other brands. Honda quoted me RM5xx before GST ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(OriginalColours @ Aug 15 2017, 02:54 PM)
Wondering is it better for me to replace the brake pads at any official Honda Service Centre or just go for other brands. Honda quoted me RM5xx before GST  ohmy.gif
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If yr car still under warranty then go back to honda lo...Otherwise can consider Project Mu brake pads..rm300+ only..

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QUOTE(OriginalColours @ Aug 15 2017, 02:54 PM)
Wondering is it better for me to replace the brake pads at any official Honda Service Centre or just go for other brands. Honda quoted me RM5xx before GST  ohmy.gif
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Brake pada from honda price RM5xx? Thats really overprice. But if install aftermarket will affect the warranty? hmm.gif

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