msians students do NOT usually get into the top indian med schools. places are few, and it is very difficult to get in.......the most popular ones are like manipal, kastuba etc, which as a measure of quailty, are not in the list of recognised indian med schools in spore (smc: https://www.smc.gov.sg/html/1153709442948.html)........

But wouldn't it be better if u can follow the USMLE style in KMC (as wat hyperax said) and sit for it, then can go US lor (provided u got very good score lar).

opps, sry for that, i was abt to sleep at that time, so abit blurred
hmm, can i ask right, is the 2 years HO+ 3 years MO compulsory for MMMC student? or u can get out of it anytime u got an offer elsewhere, eg US residency.

shoot, hyperax sounds like ass.. what about hyperx? lol

btw, is that hard to ask for transfer to another hosp in msia?
my senior told me, it's been 3 years since she finished her HO, but she still stuck at kedah.. she did her HO there...

hehe, that scares me..

you can't choose where you do housemanship.........unless you have very good cables.......

I see. Thanks for explaining. So i guess it is UKM, UM and USM.

hi guys! (& gals) 

wow... missed so much on this thread while i've been away..
from wiki to quarrels to cables.. hehe..

been working for 6 weeks already..
spent the first 2 weeks tagging from 6.30am-12am, couldn't wait to go back & sleep...
kinda became a zombie by day 10.. 

life as a HO is kinda fun, but damn tiring..
physically when you're running around getting things done..
mentally when things go wrong & you get screwed.. 

nevertheless, i believe that if you have a clear ambition about becoming a doctor...
& not just joining med school coz u scored 4.0....
then there's no prob surviving housemanship...

my colleagues who are really suffering are those who really have no heart in caring for patients...
they never really expected to have to slog so damn hard...
since their heads were kinda inflated by everyone calling them 'doctor'...

anyway, it's nice to have a life back...
haven't been online for weeks! 

Yalah.. people sometimes can see houseman falling asleep while clerking. Their handwriting becomes like an ECG reading going from VT to asystole..haha.

i read in papers that MMMC is not recognized by india already, and malaysia may follow suit later
how the MMMC students generally respond to this?

Friday August 8, 2008 MYT 8:27:12 PM
Manipal students will be looked after, says ministry
BY LOONG MENG YEE

KUALA LUMPUR: The Health Ministry has assured local students in Manipal University that their welfare will be looked after.

“We are concerned about this matter. If need be, we will even consider credit transfers to allow our students complete their courses at other universities,” said Health Minister Datuk Liow Tiong Lai.

Liow was commenting on the Medical Council of India (MCI)'s announcement last week that it was no longer recognising the Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery degrees offered by Kasturba Medical Colleges in Manipal and Mangalore.

Liow asked the Malaysian Medical Council (MMC) to seek further clarification from its counterpart in India over the decision.

He was speaking after launching Healthylimpics 2008 organised by health-product company Easy Pha-Max Marketing Sdn Bhd here Friday.

Manipal is popular among Malaysians students. Students at the Melaka Manipal Medical College do three years of clinical training in Malaysia and two years of pre-clinical in India.

Meanwhile, Manipal University pro-Chancellor Dr H.S. Ballal said the university was surprised by the “purported” statement from MCI because the matter was under consideration by higher authorities.

“Furthermore, MCI is only a recommendatory body and does not have the power to de-recognise an institute,” he said in a press statement.

He also stressed that Kasturba Medical College (KMC) fulfilled all inspection criteria specified by MCI – faculty quality, staff strength; teaching infrastructure; hospital infrastructure; hospital utilisation; student education and care facilities.

Ballal said KMC had been consistently featured amongst the top five medical colleges in India for the last few decades.

“Over 4000 alumni of KMC are senior practising physicians in the United States. Close to 3,000 doctors in Malaysia are KMC alumni. KMC is the only medical college in India that is also recognised by the New York State Education Board,” he said.

none of my business...
btw, it's KMC which was to be derecognised by Indian Medical Council, not MMMC...
Also, MMMC is never recognised by Indian Medical Council...

i googled it.. 
what year student are u?

i think we should let the manipal thread die, so i am transferring this info on the best practice principles for medical school student selection here.....

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1. Selection of medical students should firstly be based on academic merit. There are more than adequate number of potential candidates with interest and passion in the profession from a group of top 5% students in any cohort. (in msia, that is 10,000+ students)

2. From this group, final selection should be done based on applitude, attitude, interest, compassion and other attributes.

3. money should NOT be a factor in the selection process. The practice of buying places is bad.

4. developed countries are consistent in their selection and training process, based on 1, 2 and 3. and thus has the best record of consistent, quality med education....

5. ipta/ipts and many (not all) 3rd world schools suffer from selection and training (mostly assessment) issues, resulting in inconsistent quality of students and graduates.

6. Exceptions occur, but cannot be used as justification for allowing poorly qualified students to 'try' medical education.

i shall take it then that you agree with it.......

if you don't, i would like to hear which parts and why....

from what happened in the manipal thread tonight, you really lived up to you signature: emo max....

with that, i switch back to non-personal mode.....