Don't know yet.Result not yet out.Any suggestion?Cheaper tuition fees and Better quality.

being complete honest here, i wonder, based on the level of english used in this forum, and the mistakes so frequently committed in simple postings, how one can get a 'high band 5' in muet?............

i went to mmmc, i didnt do ielts..
got band 4 muet..
hehehehe
feea bit expensive lah
300k for total 5 years..
imu cheaper i think..
or can go for aimst.
dont go indonesia or russia..
because u r not using english there..
will hv prob when start working..
preferably do twining where u can get experience from both side..

one doesn't have to be an english teacher to be good in the language.......

i have been tested before for migration purposes (not ielts)......and have been certified 'native speaker' of the language.......

don't blow a fuse........it was a response to the muet high band 5 result.........you don't like the comments, just ignore them, they are not meant for you anyway........

I think being proficient in English is important. Can you imagine what will the public think when they hear a doctor who struggles in English conversation?

Standards of English among the UM medical undergraduates is getting worse. I guess this is part of the change...English proficiency was definitely much better back then...

Its indeed "tak mahu", not that they cant converse in English.

This trend of speaking English all the time in the hospital (esp. in gov. hospital) is rather annoying... really...
at least from the view points of supporting staff members in the hospital (Nurses, MLTs, P.As, admin, etc), of which I have had experienced working with some of them in the past.

They feel that there is this "air of arrogance" or "holier than thou" attitude from the doctors who constantly speak in English even though they can converse in Malay with them.

More over, the trend of doctors "not-mixing" with other staff members of the hospital especially with the supporting staffs adds up to this situation.

Use English when it is appropriate and not as a mean to Show-Off to other people, it doesn't impress them but rather annoys them.
(they talk behind your back you know - even though they smile in front of you)
Fikir fikirkan lah~

Legally speaking, if one is an Australian/New Zealand/U.S./U.K./other citizen (ie holding the passport of their adoptive nation), and one has renounced their Singaporean citizenship, Singapore's NS laws do not apply to them, even if they were formerly a Singaporean citizen.

By international convention, arresting a ex-Singaporean holding another citizenship is like arresting a Malaysian national just because he is of the right age for NS. It is different however, if you only have a PR of another country.

PR's by definition only give you the right of abode. It does not confer diplomatic protection and  rights by the PR issuing state.

Whoops, I've gone off-topic again eh? ;;

the study attributes 60% of the variation to the difference in the required entrance qualifications of different med schools.......

if these variations are as such in uk, where there is a relatively small band in terms of the required entrance qualifications, imagine what the variation will be like in msia, where the entrance qualifications varies VERY widely, and stretching down to admitting very poor quality students.......

i shudder to imagine.......

i didn't post the article......someone did, i read it and i commented on it....as within my right of free speech in responce.....full stop......you are free to comment on the article too......but you choose to get personal as usual........

medical students are supposed to be very clever people, those of you here who may be contemplating presenting for the mrcp, go figure individually how the findings of this study may impact on each of you individually when you consider doing the mrcp.......if you consider it of no impact, just ignore it......

well, it has come to a conclusion that it DOES vary differently. you guys argue all the time, non stop.

now wanna add some life into this medical thread. first up, how do you guys memorize parasitology. its getting quite weirdy with names.

and second up, KAPLAN books wont be any use for students not heading to America am i right?

Nothing to do with Malaysia? BTW, Malaysian student means a student coming from Malaysia, hence has to do with Malaysia. And do you need a new reading glasses again? Don't you not see people here talking about UK medical school? If yes, then that article is VERY relevant to those thinking of doing medicine there.

And secondly, I am certain the article is new and will benefit those thinking of UK. As a scientist yourself, you should know that this article is attempting to do it in a more scientific way through proper conducted studies. A well done study, I would say. There aren't many around that I know of. But then may be Malaysian trained scientist like yourself looks at tea leaf for information instead, I wouldn't know.

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Added on March 5, 2009, 7:33 am

It is a GREAT help for those contemplating doing basic medicine degree in UK universities and undecided on which uni to choose.  You do know that there are  more to medicine than MRCP, right?

I am not saying that the article isn't useful. What i dun get is why you relate it to the admission standard in Msia. I dun see any relation at all. Care to point out doctor?

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Added on March 5, 2009, 1:42 am
Read it a few times, dun try to memorize by heart. Eventually it will be at your finger tips.

that's how scientific evidence works......for most people at least.....

but for some.......will not accept.......

based on this warped logic, we will now have to say studies done in say, europe that drug x is useful for hypertension does NOT apply to msian patients, as it was done on european patients.........

all this just to suit an argumentative attitude......

same principles.......but this is an exercise in futility.....let readers judge for themselves......

First you said this article has NOTHING to do with Malaysia, meaning it is "not useful".  When it was pointed out to you that Malaysian student in UK comes from Malaysia and not some place like Indonesia or Kathmandu, you changed your tune saying this article is now not entirely useless. Good that you see the logic now.

Then you have to spoil it by saying this thread is not about medical school in UK. May be you should re-read the title of this thread with new reading glasses. It says...

"CALLING ALL MEDICAL STUDENTS!, medical student chat+info center (Life Sciences)"

The keyword here is "ALL" meaning it is not confined to Malaysian medical school or Malaysian medical student in Malaysia. BTW, you do realize there are medical students in other countries beside Malaysia, don't you?

ALL medical Student = Malaysia medical student in Malaysia

I guess for some people, the world revolve around Malaysia. Perhaps the sun revolve around the earth