Hi guys,

Am currently searching for a proposal ring, budget around RM 6k to 7k i know there are a lot of brands out there...but which 1 should I go for? What are the differences between them?

Also, i have never measured my gf's ring size...which finger should I measure for? How can I do it secretly?

Or can I buy the ring without knowing her ring size? Can I request to change it to different size later on?

Non-mainstream stores can consider (just google/facebook them):
1. Tailored 1Jewel (The diamonds they offer me is decent, I think all of them scored 100% on Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator (https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator) and all of them scored below 2 for HCA (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, lower score is better) and the price is good. I did not purchase from them because I prefer super ideal whereby Hearts and Arrows can be seen clearly, however I did ask them to custom made my ring setting. Although the final product did not meet my expectation, which I think is a rare case for Tailored Jewel, but they honour their money-back guarantee and refunded me in full, hence I will still recommend them. You may read about my experience here: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ia-review.html). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

2. iDo Jewellery (My ring is customized by them, there are some initial problems, but the overall outcome is alright. (http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot.my/2016/08/looking-for-ring-setting.html)

3. ZCOVA (The diamond I randomly asked recently seems good for that price point, hence I will recommend it as well, although some diamonds they offer me previously did not fare well on the Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator or HCA, so just request for the GIA number of the diamonds they are able to offer for your budget). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

Mainstream stores (Wah Chan is recommended by colleagues and forumers, while Habib is recommended by forumer. It seems that both have competitive prices for GIA graded diamonds:
1. Wah Chan

2. Habib

Online from USA:
1. WhiteFlash (I bought my stone from this site, got taxed 6% GST for importing it in). http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ash-review.html

2. Brian Gavin Diamonds (Recommended this because the cutter used to be with WhiteFlash)

Other Tips:
1. Now, for your budget, you probably can get something around 0.4-0.48ct. Importing in a WhiteFlash 0.4~0.43ct super ideal diamond + ring setting done locally will up your budget til around RM 8K.
2. Buying loose diamond and ring setting separately will be more expensive.
3. Western custom is left hand ring finger.
4. It is hard to measure without letting her know, but you can try to do it when she is sleeping, or ask her family/friends. Also, you have to know her preference, some people like it tight, some people don't. If I were to do it all over again, I will propose using a temporary loose stone ring holder: http://beyond4cs.com/loose-diamonds/is-it-...-mounted-stone/. And then, I will go find a custom setting together. This is because resizing can have complications, such as slight drop in quality compared to the first time, also, some settings are so unique that they are unable to be resized. If you like this way, you can get the ring holder at AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPI...20-317462baee4b
5. Lastly, you can post your questions here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3224055&hl=

Hey! Thanks for the detail!

So you purchase the diamond and ring/setting separately? That would be more costly right?

How long did it took for you to receive your diamond?

Few days... If shipped out on Tuesday from US, probably can receive latest by Friday, for West Malaysia. WhiteFlash uses Fedex International Priority, so it is pretty fast. Please also note that WhiteFlash, which is based in Houston, is slower by 14 hours, so even if you purchase at 4pm Malaysia time, they are still able to ship out around 11pm - 12am our time, and someone from Fedex will actually be able to pick them up that time. Fedex will help you pay all the necessary taxes first, so please prepare slightly more than 6% of your purchase price. This is because on top of the item you purchase, you will need to pay the taxes for the shipment and insurance, which is actually not that much, compare to the 6% of the diamond.

And yes, making the setting separately is more costly, but it gives me more freedom, so I am okay with it.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jan 3 2017, 02:01 PM

I checked the website and found 1 i am interested in, but then down there wrote "Center diamond sold separately. Not included in style information or price." does that mean the price is not including the diamond? only for the ring?

If you are referring to Designer Ring Setting, unfortunately, it is really sold separately. Normal ring setting is already more expensive than what you can get locally, so designer ring setting itself is definitely more expensive. However, the loose diamond price is quite competitive for such quality, that's why I purchased my loose diamond there, and have it set locally.

wah...ring alone sudah 1.5k usd...gg

You can always get customized setting here. I got mine from iDo Jewellery, however, I heard that price has increased til RM 1,900 now for simple solitaire design.

how much in total did u spent?

i might do the same as u...buy diamond from WhiteFlash and get the settings done here

Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct.

Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct F color VS2.

If you decided to buy from WhiteFlash, appreciate if you can use my affiliate link:
http://www.whiteflash.com/?a_aid=myengringexp

And quote me as referral:

Will do should i decided to buy from there...haha

thanks for the guidance though

all the best!

Ever thought of getting your diamond from JannPaul? A famous Singaporean brand. But before I go on any further, I would like to highlight the fact that I am not in any way affiliated with JannPaul.

I recently purchased a heart shaped diamond from them at an extremely satisfying price haha. Plus, they have a very interesting interest-free payment plan, whereby you can reserve a diamond for up to 6 months with a "downpayment" of S$500. Within this 6 months if you come across any better stones, you can request for their ASET, Idealscope, H&A and actual diamond images for free, and you can switch diamonds if you like what you see.

You can pay whatever amount you that are comfortable with every month, and they will hold your diamond until you fully settle the payment, be it 6 months, 8 months or whatever. I reserved my heart shape for S$500 in December and now I am waiting for my setting to be rendered (yes, that customised Verragio setting). I will pay again only when they call me over to discuss the ring design - maybe this month, maybe February, I don't know. I have also mentioned to them that I will only need my proposal ring in July so I will drag my payment over 7 months from Dec 16-Jul 17. They are ok with it haha. But before I finish paying, I cannot collect my ring lahh, that's the only downside.

Below are the drillz of the images I mentioned:



This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 6 2017, 09:34 PM

Thx for recommending bro

i am currently checking out iDO...and calculating on my budget

not sure if i wanna spend so much money on the ring, because everyone i asked told me that the ring no need to be too expensive, as it got no resale value after buying...basically juz for collection...might as well use the money to plan for wedding ><

Depends on how you see the ring lohh. For me, I see it as a one-in-a-lifetime kind of thing. Takkan you every year also buy >0.5 carat punya diamond ring for your wife right? Unless you are extremely loaded lahh then different story haha.

hahaha! i wish i could...can afford maximum of 0.4 only quotation from iDo is 7.7k MYR

RM7,700 for the stone only or with the setting?

with the setting

http://www.idojewellery.com/product/rs-003/

18K White Gold Solitaire Ring
1D – 0.40ct
E, VS1
Triple Excellents
Ideal Cut
Fluorescence None
With GIA certificate

Wow, that price is good! Go for it bro.

But before you agree on anything, check the light performance of the diamond. Do they have ASET scope in store? Don't take the 3Ex at face value bro, there are good and bad 3Exes out there. Do you mind sharing your diamond's GIA number with me?

hi all,

if looking for a low budget (<RM4k) ring with higher carat but quality not good, where to find?

is the quality that important?

They don't have a physical shop though, so I can't really check out the light performance but according to the reviews they got, all very positive

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2171945737 << not sure if this is wat u looking for

what do you mean by quality?

diamond got 4C
- Carat
- Color
- Clarity
- Cut

which 1 u talking?

You can try and request for the ASET image of your diamond. Like James Allen, they might have it on file.

This is the HCA score for your diamond, a healthy 1.9.



Since budget is your main concern, I believe this is the most ideal range without sacrificing much on cut.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 7 2017, 12:12 PM

to girls, usually carat is important for face, the other C's important too?

well true also...but ur budget 4k...means the diamond will looks very yellowish?

touche... but dunnit go for top grade la.. lowest quality that's indiscernible to the naked eye should be good enuf gua, if look yellow means too low grade d lo..

Hi guys, I also looking for engagement ring for future wife.. Still thinking where shall I get the ring with, i saw Zcova got promotion 0.50ct with setting around RM 9K plus. I like the IDo setting which look solid.. Dont know how the price will be...

Color - F / G should be good enough

Clarity - SI 1 or SI 2

just get a quotation from them

i am still checking with iDo about my budget and wat setting can i get

i too wan buy ring for myself men ring . wer can buy ?

I not yet contact them, plan to do so.. Since our currency drop, i guess we surely have to pay more for our ring

Colour can go down to H. If it is a finely cut stone, its fire and brilliance will mask the slightly yellowish tint.

SI1 or SI2 might be a bit risky if you are buying blind. Buying blind means you don't get to see and inspect your diamond under various scopes and conditions. Although some SIs can be eye-clean, they are categorised as a SI for a reason. It might be a feather near the edge (common for SIs), a huge cloud deeply embedded within the stone or whatever. So for safety, I would advise jrrsim to go VS2 lowest.

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Since budget is your main concern, SI1 or SI2 also ok lahh, but do check the type of inclusions. If it is a feather, check its location. If it is a cloud, check whether it is colourless. That sort of thing.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 7 2017, 01:14 PM

True to a certain extend. Why? Let me give you an example.

Your wife has a diamond ring with so-so cut, so-so clarity and so-so everything, but it is a 1-carat diamond. Her friend has a 0.8-carat ring with tiptop 3Ex, F colour and VS1 clarity. When they compare side by side, for sure your wife's 1 carat will own her friend's cuz it looks bigger and it hits the magic 1-carat number. But when they test for the bling-bling factor, that 1 carat with so-so cut will lose 9 street man cuz it is as good looking as a piece of glass.

especially they will put in under light to see it blink...if clarity and color tak kuat...will lose out...when they lose out...they come back to u...and u suffer

i doubt girls will go home and bring out the diamond ring to compare gua after wedding.. some more after few months then usually cold storage liao..

But you said carat is important for face mahh, so I thought your future wife likes to compare wan.

But still, don't go too stingy on cut just because you wanna maximise carat weight. Really not worth it one bro.

i wan something she is happy with without breaking the bank la pretty much.. not something to show off with but something that won't "lose face" also la if show to other ppl, if you know what i mean..

i don't wanna go too low also la but to me, the super excellent or "hearts and arrows" quality is an overkill since a typical person wouldn't know, usually the guy buying the wedding ring knows more and ends up paying more for nothing.. cos obviously not planning to ever sell the ring so dun care about resale value either..

tl;dr: just want something she will treasure without going overkill..

Ok I understand.

Then my suggestion is to still go for a 3Ex stone but one which is at the lower end of the spectrum. They will still have the hearts and arrows formation, but with defects. Let me show you some images of such diamonds

The price per carat for these diamonds is much lower so you can maximise your carat weight.

Please hang on while I look for the images. Currently on the mobile version.

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https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2358385



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2382386



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2226224



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2325036

All these are slightly deep cut, so their face-up size will be smaller compared to a finely cut 3Ex, but they ARE STILL 3Exes. Also note the inclusions in the stones. This is roughly what you will get for a SI1 clarity diamond.

The 4th one is as eye-clean as it gets but there is a huge feather at the edge of the diamond on the top left. This will pose durability issues in the long run as your ring is subjected to occasional knocks here and there, which will propagate the feather on to the surface of the diamond. Once the stress is too much for it to handle, it will either form a crack on the surface or worse, chip off.

I am no way a diamond expert, only sharing the fruits of my research from the net and speaking to jewellers for nearly a year.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 8 2017, 10:09 AM

whoaa... thanks so much.. this is what I'm looking for, so any recommended sellers or where to find this acceptable quality of diamonds?
now i have learned a bit how to look at diamonds... hehe..

check with iDO (http://www.idojewellery.com/)...not sure if they got your preferred diamond

i am about 90% going to purchase from them d...

James Allen is one of them. Their prices are quite good...but since the recent slump in MYR against the USD, I am afraid not any more.

You can try Tailored Jewel. They are a local jeweller who supply diamonds and do customisation as well. The boss punya contact is below:

Ethon Low
012-255 5866
ethonlow.wk@tailoredjewel.com
http://tailoredjewel.com/

Another one is Audrey Diamonds. But this one I have not tried so I can't provide any feedback. Maybe kambingkoh can comment a bit on Audrey's.

http://audreys.com.my/audreys/

Shopping around for a ring too at the moment. My second time after sixteen years. It seems things have definitely moved on in this diamond ring business.

Great thread!

I shop online regularly, and I have had a number of orders go missing during postage. I still can't wrap my head around the idea of ordering a diamond or ring costing several thousand via post!

Haha, I did not buy from them before. But they are quite fast in terms of repsonding to emails. It is a good place to survey for diamond prices, but I am not sure about other areas. One thing I am sure is that they end my emails with "Do you wish to proceed with the sale?". Anyway, that time I was very new to diamonds and I don't know what questions to ask. Maybe they will be able to answer on certain questions regarding the diamond angles and proportions. Anyone interested should try asking.

For jrrsim, if budget is really your main concern. Please get the quotes from the 3 vendors below:
1. Tailored Jewel (was introduced by bb100 too)
2. ZCOVA
3. Eumayco (you will see them alot on facebook advertisement once you searched for rings)

Ask them if they have promotion running. Ask them for a few diamonds' cert number. To determine which one is the best:
http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca (type in proportions according to cert, not that hard)
http://www.pricescope.com/tools/AGA_NAJA_Cut_Class_Grader (type in the proportions according to cert, not that hard)
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator (easiest, just put in cert number)

Good luck and all the best in your diamond hunt!

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jan 9 2017, 02:10 PM

Usually online stores overseas use Fedex. Along with insurance as well. They will pass to you by hand!

http://datlas.com/do-it-yourself-aganaja-cut-class-grader/
http://datlas.com/AGA_NAJA_Cut_Class_grader/index.php:


https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...ate=2171945737:


The crown angle is actually too steep at 36 degrees. May affect light return. Hence Datlas class grader returns 2B for it, which means it is at 4 out of 8 (lower is better). Read:

ProsumerDiamond link


Therefore, check with iDo for the IdealScope and ASET as suggested by bb100, they do have them according to what I was told.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jan 9 2017, 01:59 PM

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=5172829265

Actually chose another diamond d...cause the 0.4 a bit over budget

Chose this 0.34 and the settings, gonna cost 7.3k already

Wow, same proportions, other than the depth.


Tab Percent: 1A
Crown Angle: 2B
Crown Height: 1A
Pavilion Depth: 1B
Girdle: 1B
Depth: 1B
Polish: 1A
Symmetry: 1A
TotalGrade: 1B

Girdle and depth grading drop slightly by 1 grade. HCA is same as before @1.9. Fire is excellent because of the steep crown @36 degrees, but at the expense of brilliance (light return).

But then, my advice is still go for the 0.4ct because every 0.1ct is a big jump, and the amount difference (RM 400) does not seem to fill the actual price difference. In other words, 0.4ct is more value for money. 0.34ct is not worth it in this case.

If you buy anything less than 0.4ct from iDo, WhiteFlash can offer you a better deal. They provide free shipping as well as insurance (but the price for shipment and insurance is taxable in Malaysia at 6%, luckily it is not that much). The diamond is also taxable, but then even adding in 6% GST, the price is still cheaper than what is offered to you. Just plug in the numbers into Datlas Cut Grader and HCA, I am sure the score will be better than what iDo offered you for the 0.34ct. Also, I have also included in RM 2000 for the setting when calculating the price.


In fact, another diamond that is sold by BGD is very close to 0.4ct, but you save on the premium for the 0.1ct price jump. They provide you with all the details, and the price is still not bad. Although it is SI1, since this is their signature diamond, it should be fine, then D colour is even 1 grade higher, although not significantly higher. But then, people will notice the overall colour more than clarity because colour is more obvious.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/
The downside of BGD is that you may need to pay for the shipping, insurance, and the ring box (as far as I remember). Anyway, I may check with them when I have the time.

So once again, my advice is to go for 0.4ct if possible. If not, buy online elsewhere is cheaper.

i still considering...

quote from iDo for ring only is RM1.8k

previously with diamond is RM7350

basically the diamond is 5.5k

Here is the math for a 0.33ct diamond:
I round up to 900 USD. Exhange rate I put it 4.53 so diamond price is RM 4077. Add in GST, total is RM 4321.62. Add in tax for freight and insurance, probably will only cost you something like RM 50 - RM 100. Anyway, I just put high enough til RM 4500. So diamond price is RM 1000 difference. Let iDo do the setting is probably RM 1900 (last heard is this). So I boost up til RM 2000. So total is RM 6500. Complete ring. E color and F color is 1 grade different. So is VS1 and VS2. But you now get a super ideal cut from WhiteFlash, compare to a over-steep 36 degrees. I am not expert, but I know 36 degrees is not that recommended by experts, unless of course when the deal is good, but it is not in this case.

what about this? https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=5233181671

price at $1134... HCA value is 1.1

Even worse.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...cate=5233181671
Cut Score: 65.6

Datlas Cut Class Grader:
Tab Percent: 1B
Crown Angle: 3A
Crown Height: 2A
Pavilion Depth: 1A
Girdle: 2B
Depth: 1A
Polish: 1A
Symmetry: 1A
TotalGrade: 2B

So, grade: 4/8

Remember HCA is not everything because they take into account of 17 facets only. Standard round diamond has 57 facets, include culet will have 58 facets. Anyway, we just call it 57 facets.

Also, remember that HCA is not diamond selector tool, it is a diamond rejection tool. Although this diamond passed HCA with 1.1, but then it failed on other tests. Read more about HCA here: http://www.goodoldgold.com/consumers-guide-hca

Checked on the cert indicates that the crown angle is toooooo shallow at 31.5 degrees. More steep = more fire. Usually online research will encourage people too choose a crown angle between +- 34 to +- 35.

Also, at 31.5 degrees, Hearts & Arrows most likely will not be found:
http://www.heartsandarrows.com/hearts-arro...al-cut-dna.aspx

Just don't buy it.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jan 9 2017, 04:00 PM

I think I just found 1 perfect diamond

0.4 carat, F, VS1

Cut score: 100

HCA: 1.2

Datlas cut:
Tab Percent: 1A
Crown Angle: 1A
Crown Height: 1A
Pavilion Depth: 1A
Girdle: 1A
Depth: 1A
Polish: 1A
Symmetry: 1A
TotalGrade: 1A

Price slightly higher than my budget

Hello,

Mind sharing how much that diamond cost?

Previously, I was also looking for a ring with a budget similar to yours. I just wanted to share with you the quotation that I got from Tailored Jewel just in case you're interested. Ethan is a nice guy, but I did not purchase from him. I ended up buying a diamond from Wah Chan instead. I might consider getting the wedding band from Tailored Jewel

Well it passed all the checkpoints. What is cert number?

Unable to view the picture. Mind sharing it again?

The diamond is about 5.7k...after calculating GST, conversion and so

1179081040 <<< this

http://niceice.com/diamond-buying-secrets/...buying-success/

Total depth between 59 – 61.8% (pass)
Table diameter between 53 – 58% (pass)
Crown angle between 34.3 – 34.9 degrees (pass)
Pavilion angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees (pass)
Lower girdle facets between 75 – 78% (fail)
Star facets between 45 – 50% (last check with him, he increased the star length to 55%, so pass)
Girdle thickness between thin and slightly thick (pass)

http://www.prosumerdiamonds.com/how-to-pick-diamond/

Table: 53-57% (pass)
Total Depth: 60 – 61.5% (max 62.5% for a 4% girdle) (pass)
Crown Angle (CA)/ Pavilion Angle (PA)
– For CA = 34°, PA = 41°
– For CA = 34.5°, PA = 40.6° – 40.8° (pass)
– For CA = 35°, PA = 40.6°
Star Length (SL) / Lower Girdle (LGF)
– For SL = 50%, LGF = 75 – 80%
– For SL = 55%, LGF = 75% (fail)
Girdle Thickness: Thin to medium (2.5 – 3% preferred) (pass)

http://beyond4cs.com/shapes/round/ideal-proportions/


Table: pass
Crown: pass
Pavilion: pass
Depth: pass

http://www.heartsandarrows.com/hearts-arro...al-cut-dna.aspx
Pavilon: pass (optimum)
Crown: pass (optimum)
Table: pass (optimum)
LGF: pass (not optimum)
Star: pass (not optimum)

Crown angle = Tolkowsky’s ideal proportions
Pavilion angle = Close enough to Tolkowsky’s ideal proportions (40.75)

Don't worry about the "fail" part, those are just individual opinions from different websites. Also, don't worry too much about the faint fluorescence. In fact, according to http://beyond4cs.com/grading/fluorescence/...parency-issues/, there is a significantly high chance that it won't cause any issue such as milky appearance. You may ask your seller to check for the appearance and see if it is milky or not, if he/she is able to get the images of the diamond, it is even better. Images will be diamond image, ASET image, idealscope image.

Lastly, among all the stones you show me, I think this is the one I will buy myself personally. Since we are buying without actually looking into the real diamond, then all we can rely is the figures, and it will be best if we can verify our decision with the necessary images.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Dude, this is dangerous! There is a term for this: buying blind. If the seller is not able to provide the scope images, I would not even waste time looking into its proportions.

The depth and table percentages, and crown and pavilion angles are only figures. They don't tell you as much as a scope image would.

The stone has faint fluorescence. Fluorescent diamonds usually cost less. Try and nego with the seller on this point. Maybe you can shave a few hundred off the listed price.

This is actually from the WhiteFlash website. Emailed them for the images, but they replied with this: "This diamond is part of our virtual selection group so we would need payment to bring the diamond in for inspection and imaging."

Faint fluorescence is only much notifiable under UV light right?

This should not be the case. Pay first then only inspect? What if you are not satisfied with the outcome? Can do a full refund? Anyway, mind sharing the link to the diamond?


Yes, but it is still a fluorescent diamond regardless of strength. See this:


http://www.lumeradiamonds.com/diamond-educ...nd-fluorescence

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 10 2017, 10:12 AM

PM you the link for the diamond

I don't understand how the fluorescent can affect the diamond though

That's why I keep on repeating myself "please get the diamond image, ASET image, Idealscope image." Hahahaha. And if buying blind is the buyer's only options, all they can rely on is really figures. But then okay... jacky91, really please get the images.

Sent an email to them already, currently pending for their answer...now i know the difference between in house and virtual on WhiteFlash website.

Actually bb100 is right as well. Diamond with fluorescence is cheaper than those with none. So is good if you can negotiate the price.

bb100 how do you check whether the diamond i listed got fluorescence?

Your one is Virtual Selection. Hence, no images. Try to look at their A-Cut-Above (ACA) or Expert Selection. Personally will only look at ACA to save on time and headache. All the scopes are there for your viewing pleasure. The diamonds are graded by AGS, not GIA. But then, really, this 2 labs are compatible with each other, if AGS is not better. Their certs will show more detail.

Don't bother getting GIA from them. It is not cheap on WhiteFlash. If you want GIA, JamesAllen got plenty of them for your viewing pleasure. But then, they do not ship to Malaysia. However, they do ship to Singapore, hence, if you are working there, or someone can get it back for you, then it is good. But please be reminded VAT may apply - SG is 7%.

Open your cert URL. Is inside.

I think the "payment" is for shipment of the diamond to their store. Not for the actual stone. jacky91 please correct me if I am wrong.

I have also noticed that your diamond has a feather inclusion. I might be one feather or a few feathers. Be careful, as the feather might be near to the edge of the stone.

Hmm...means i better go start looking again...hahaha!

Oh!!!! Thanks!

I think so, the sales person is not replying my email yet

Ok, thanks for your PM.

Fluorescence is considered a defect, just like inclusions in a diamond. It is just that fluorescence is not categorised under the 4Cs. That's why people, especially sellers, seldom take it into consideration when evaluating the price of a diamond.

Ehh wait, your stone is sold by Whiteflash ahh? Like this mana boleh nego bro?

jacky91 I am working in Singapore bro.

Tu la...fixed price...now i headache adi...so many things to consider and price also need to control

hahahahaha!!! i got friend working there too

bb100 banyak kaya punya orang. Maybe he can help you get good price from JamesAllen because he is VIP customer! 😁

JamesAllen can give better price a? I went into the website and was prompt that I can get $100 off my first purchase

It's never easy bro, especially now you are buying something for such an important event in your life! I did my research on diamonds for nearly one year bro, just to better equip myself from penipu scammers around. But my budget is flexible, so I have more freedom to play around with the specs. But that does not mean you can't get a beautiful stone with a limited budget bro, please don't get me wrong. Just that you need to source harder for the best deals.

Do not limit yourself only to online stores bro. Walk into local jewellery shops and start inquiring, maybe they can offer you something which you can't resist. But the downside is that most of them do not have ASET and Idealscope for you lohh.

haha..agree..i might juz postpone my planning a bit late...to research/find the perfect diamond

now checking JamesAllen.

Bro, got consider princess cut? It costs less per carat compared to round brilliants.

erm...nvr really thought about it...always looking for round cut hahaha

JamesAllen deliver to SG only Malaysia lousy xD

but i like that they have 24/7 support...whiteflash need to rely on their customer service working hour...which is kind of a disaster

Do consider princess cut bro. Those good ones are as brilliant as a round diamond bro, but cost less. You can use the balance to up your carat weight.

You can always deliver to Singapore and ask your friend to pass you the diamond. No problem wan. But will kena 7% GST lahh haha.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 10 2017, 11:43 AM

hmmm...i try to look around as well

-removed-

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 10 2017, 11:55 AM

Try using their online chat instead of email. They were pretty responsive when I last bought there. My first reply from their online chat was actually from their CEO herself.