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star.king
post Feb 9 2017, 02:40 PM

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Master kambingkoh and jacky91

Finally I finished reading the entire post.
Well for me who don't have the luxurious time of buying the loose stone and set it with personalised design, I went for those uncommon vendors in Malaysia.

Here's what tailored jewel quoted, that I am interested in.

Pakej satu
0.4 ct, E, Vs2,
excellent for cut, Polish, symmetry
Fluorescence none
Depth 62.5 Table 56 Crown 36 Pav 40.6
Hearts and arrows excellent
GIA 3245357561
HCA light return excellent, fire excellent, scintillation excellent, spread very good, score 1.8
Enchanted diamond cut score 94.1%
Platinum 6 prong knife edge setting
Rm7255
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Pakej dua
0.42 ct, F, Vs1,
excellent for cut, Polish, symmetry
Fluorescence none
Depth 62.5 Table 57 Crown 36 Pav 40.6
Hearts and arrows excellent
GIA 2246349984
HCA light return very good, fire excellent, scintillation very good, spread very good, score 1.9
Enchanted diamond cut score 94.1%
White gold 18k 4 or 6 prong setting
Rm6870
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Pakej tiga
0.46 ct, F, Vvs2,
excellent for cut, Polish, symmetry
Fluorescence faint
Depth 62 Table 57 Crown 35.5 Pav 40.6
Hearts and arrows excellent
GIA 3215578414
HCA light return excellent, fire excellent, scintillation excellent, spread very good, score 1.4
Enchanted diamond cut score 97.2%
White gold 18k 4 or 6 prong setting
RM7940
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Images to come soon

Personally I think that Pakej tiga is a better buy, or I kena conned? đŸ˜¬

This post has been edited by star.king: Feb 9 2017, 10:06 PM
star.king
post Feb 10 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 9 2017, 04:18 PM)
36 degrees is actually too steep. It will have excellent fire but will have lesser brilliance. So, it will probably look good in candle light situation, but probably not that good under normal lighting condition. However, the price is actually okay. Anyway need to look at the images, especially idealscope to determine light performance. Btw, can you check with him does his ring contain palladium? or nickel?

For the one you have chosen, faint flourescence may actually cost lesser, but for the price he giving you, I think is still all right.
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updated the images in my previous post.

too bad, only can see the idealscope with myself physically be at their store.

any reasons for knowing palladium or nickel? is this referring to the white gold setting?
star.king
post Feb 12 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 11 2017, 01:58 AM)
Diamond 1 looks good. There may be some light leakage though. Don't prefer 36 degrees crown angle, becaue over-steep. Try to take a look under normal light if they have the physical stone.
Diamond 2 arrow shaft misaligned, refer to 6 o'clock position. Don't prefer 36 degrees crown angle, because over-steep. Try to take a look under normal light if they have the physical stone.
Diamond 3 looks good. There may be some light leakage though. 35.5 degrees crown angle is also quite steep already. Try to take a look under normal light if they have the physical stone.

Palladium does not cause allergy, while nickel may cause allergy (but not all people is allergic to it). 18k white gold is made out of 75% pure gold and 25% other materials. Palladium is one of the other materials.

I have updated my blog with some selection: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...1-feb-2017.html. Take a look at the diamond image, and take a look back at those provided by Tailored Jewel. Check the idealscope as well. What is the intensity of redness? Lastly, does Tailored Jewel able to provide H&A image?
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yea whiteflash definitely have better choices at lower prices.
from what tailored jewel offered, seems like diamond 3 is a better buy to me so far.
not sure about the palladium/nickel/H&A image, need to ask again.
will update soon

thanks for the help

star.king
post Feb 18 2017, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 16 2017, 11:30 PM)
No problem. But remember that buying a loose stone will take you more time because you need to go find a jeweller to craft your ring setting. I got a few on my list that I know that will do custom ring setting:
1. iDo Jewellery (Bukit Jalil)
2. Memory Jewellery (Pusat Perdagangan D6)
3. Jewellerist (Publika)
4. Suen (Bangsar, formally known as Carat Club)
5. Eumayco (Damansara Perdana)
6. Degem (any branch I guess)
7. Tomei (any branch I guess)
8. Poh Kong (any branch I guess)

Personally, I would prefer non-retail chain jewellers as the service is more personalized.

It is good to see a rise in non-mainstream jewellers in Malaysia they start to move things more towards online. But sadly speaking, as far as Malaysia is concerned, there is more catching up to play. If not mistaken, WhiteFlash started their online business back in 2006 and probably include all the images that time, if that is true, then our local jewellers are probably 10 years behind. I believe that local jewellers do not stock-up a lot of diamonds in their inventory due to capital. They will most likely check with their wholesale supplier and get back to you on your options. The good thing is, they can run this business online and save cost on renting and staffing, and therefore, they are able to provide diamonds at a cheaper price. My opinion is, some of the diamond prices are fair, but if you want all the images, then you probably have to wait for them to catch-up, which I believe one day, some of them may succeed.

If they do stock-up, then they should be able to provide the necessary images - it is really not that expensive to get a basic professional kit: https://ideal-scope.com/product/professiona...al-light-loupe/. Take a look at this explanation on how they capture the photos: http://www.whiteflash.com/whiteflash-diamond-imaging. Of course, I believe WhiteFlash uses more sophisticated equipment and not the basic professional kit, but you get the gist of it.

If you prefer offline purchase and want all those diamond performance explanation service in a brick-and-mortar store, go to Singapore's Jann Paul if you are around there. smile.gif
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may i ask, which of these listed jewellers offer pallidium inside their 18k white gold?
i would say prices for 18k white gold pallidium will be between 1500-2000 for a 4 prong solitaire ring at the size of 0.43-0.45ct? am i correct?
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post Feb 18 2017, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 18 2017, 09:40 PM)
I know iDo Jewellery and Suen at Bangsar got. There is also another one called MC Square Studio at Tmn Tun that would probably cost around RM 2100 for your size. 1500 is abit hard to get, probably may start from 1600. Anyway, I will recommend iDo Jewellery first. Try to find out the size of your spouse first if can. If you do it in one shot, the workmanship will be better.

As for others, I am not sure. You may need to check. There is another one that  jacky91 also introduced here. You may check it out also.

Personally, I would go for Memory Jewellery first and see what they offer. Reason being their price seem pretty decent. I don't think palladium is worth an additional RM 850 - RM 1250. The only reason I will get palladium is if my partner is allergic to nickel.

Hope this helps.
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not sure if my partner does has allergy with nickel. Got once her neck was all red after using a "silver" (fake) necklace.

anyway can sifu give any advice on the following settings? any difference to use with a 0.40ct or a 0.46ct diamond? any special notes to take care of? thanks

my partner did mentioned that she don't like solitaire setting, rather bland to her cry.gif

here are the designs that i think my partner would like

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not sure which one suits her, my best bet will go to the one that offers 4 pronged, most petite and slimmest one as she has very small fingers rclxub.gif

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post Feb 19 2017, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Feb 19 2017, 12:18 AM)
Your design 1 is what I ordered from local maker biggrin.gif would be getting the ring within this 2 days icon_rolleyes.gif will upload the picture here once i got it hehe
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post Feb 19 2017, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Feb 19 2017, 01:53 AM)
I like design 3 personally. Usually not much difference in design for any diamonds around 0.4 to 0.46. Advice is to make sure the diamond can sit on a base and does not rely solely on the prongs to grab it. It can make the diamond more secure. Design 3 seems to be doing the job well. Since you mentioned that your gf has tiny fingers, my imagination tells me that design 1 may work well on her too. wink.gif Do you know her ring size yet btw?
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Yeap. We actually rom already.
Just that kena do proper proposal before the traditional ceremony.
Else I'll be 'in debt' and the issue of proposal will be used against me in future lol
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post Feb 19 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Feb 19 2017, 09:31 AM)
Nowadays many guys did that ehh? One of my friends actually "proposed" to his bride during the Chinese traditional ceremony itself.
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oh not literally JUST before the ceremony lah...
but confirmed will do it months prior to that biggrin.gif

 

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