Non-mainstream stores can consider (just google/facebook them):
1. Tailored 1Jewel (The diamonds they offer me is decent, I think all of them scored 100% on Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator (https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator) and all of them scored below 2 for HCA (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, lower score is better) and the price is good. I did not purchase from them because I prefer super ideal whereby Hearts and Arrows can be seen clearly, however I did ask them to custom made my ring setting. Although the final product did not meet my expectation, which I think is a rare case for Tailored Jewel, but they honour their money-back guarantee and refunded me in full, hence I will still recommend them. You may read about my experience here: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ia-review.html). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

2. iDo Jewellery (My ring is customized by them, there are some initial problems, but the overall outcome is alright. (http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot.my/2016/08/looking-for-ring-setting.html)

3. ZCOVA (The diamond I randomly asked recently seems good for that price point, hence I will recommend it as well, although some diamonds they offer me previously did not fare well on the Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator or HCA, so just request for the GIA number of the diamonds they are able to offer for your budget). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

Mainstream stores (Wah Chan is recommended by colleagues and forumers, while Habib is recommended by forumer. It seems that both have competitive prices for GIA graded diamonds:
1. Wah Chan

2. Habib

Online from USA:
1. WhiteFlash (I bought my stone from this site, got taxed 6% GST for importing it in). http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ash-review.html

2. Brian Gavin Diamonds (Recommended this because the cutter used to be with WhiteFlash)

Other Tips:
1. Now, for your budget, you probably can get something around 0.4-0.48ct. Importing in a WhiteFlash 0.4~0.43ct super ideal diamond + ring setting done locally will up your budget til around RM 8K.
2. Buying loose diamond and ring setting separately will be more expensive.
3. Western custom is left hand ring finger.
4. It is hard to measure without letting her know, but you can try to do it when she is sleeping, or ask her family/friends. Also, you have to know her preference, some people like it tight, some people don't. If I were to do it all over again, I will propose using a temporary loose stone ring holder: http://beyond4cs.com/loose-diamonds/is-it-...-mounted-stone/. And then, I will go find a custom setting together. This is because resizing can have complications, such as slight drop in quality compared to the first time, also, some settings are so unique that they are unable to be resized. If you like this way, you can get the ring holder at AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPI...20-317462baee4b
5. Lastly, you can post your questions here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3224055&hl=

Few days... If shipped out on Tuesday from US, probably can receive latest by Friday, for West Malaysia. WhiteFlash uses Fedex International Priority, so it is pretty fast. Please also note that WhiteFlash, which is based in Houston, is slower by 14 hours, so even if you purchase at 4pm Malaysia time, they are still able to ship out around 11pm - 12am our time, and someone from Fedex will actually be able to pick them up that time. Fedex will help you pay all the necessary taxes first, so please prepare slightly more than 6% of your purchase price. This is because on top of the item you purchase, you will need to pay the taxes for the shipment and insurance, which is actually not that much, compare to the 6% of the diamond.

And yes, making the setting separately is more costly, but it gives me more freedom, so I am okay with it.

If you are referring to Designer Ring Setting, unfortunately, it is really sold separately. Normal ring setting is already more expensive than what you can get locally, so designer ring setting itself is definitely more expensive. However, the loose diamond price is quite competitive for such quality, that's why I purchased my loose diamond there, and have it set locally.

You can always get customized setting here. I got mine from iDo Jewellery, however, I heard that price has increased til RM 1,900 now for simple solitaire design.

Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct F color VS2.

If you decided to buy from WhiteFlash, appreciate if you can use my affiliate link:
http://www.whiteflash.com/?a_aid=myengringexp

And quote me as referral:
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Ever thought of getting your diamond from JannPaul? A famous Singaporean brand. But before I go on any further, I would like to highlight the fact that I am not in any way affiliated with JannPaul.

I recently purchased a heart shaped diamond from them at an extremely satisfying price haha. Plus, they have a very interesting interest-free payment plan, whereby you can reserve a diamond for up to 6 months with a "downpayment" of S$500. Within this 6 months if you come across any better stones, you can request for their ASET, Idealscope, H&A and actual diamond images for free, and you can switch diamonds if you like what you see.

You can pay whatever amount you that are comfortable with every month, and they will hold your diamond until you fully settle the payment, be it 6 months, 8 months or whatever. I reserved my heart shape for S$500 in December and now I am waiting for my setting to be rendered (yes, that customised Verragio setting). I will pay again only when they call me over to discuss the ring design - maybe this month, maybe February, I don't know. I have also mentioned to them that I will only need my proposal ring in July so I will drag my payment over 7 months from Dec 16-Jul 17. They are ok with it haha. But before I finish paying, I cannot collect my ring lahh, that's the only downside.

Below are the drillz of the images I mentioned:

Depends on how you see the ring lohh. For me, I see it as a one-in-a-lifetime kind of thing. Takkan you every year also buy >0.5 carat punya diamond ring for your wife right? Unless you are extremely loaded lahh then different story haha.

RM7,700 for the stone only or with the setting?

Wow, that price is good! Go for it bro.

But before you agree on anything, check the light performance of the diamond. Do they have ASET scope in store? Don't take the 3Ex at face value bro, there are good and bad 3Exes out there. Do you mind sharing your diamond's GIA number with me?

hi all,

if looking for a low budget (<RM4k) ring with higher carat but quality not good, where to find?

is the quality that important?

to girls, usually carat is important for face, the other C's important too?

touche... but dunnit go for top grade la.. lowest quality that's indiscernible to the naked eye should be good enuf gua, if look yellow means too low grade d lo..

Hi guys, I also looking for engagement ring for future wife.. Still thinking where shall I get the ring with, i saw Zcova got promotion 0.50ct with setting around RM 9K plus. I like the IDo setting which look solid.. Dont know how the price will be...

whoaa... thanks so much.. this is what I'm looking for, so any recommended sellers or where to find this acceptable quality of diamonds?
now i have learned a bit how to look at diamonds... hehe..

http://datlas.com/do-it-yourself-aganaja-cut-class-grader/
http://datlas.com/AGA_NAJA_Cut_Class_grader/index.php:
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https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-cal...ate=2171945737:
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The crown angle is actually too steep at 36 degrees. May affect light return. Hence Datlas class grader returns 2B for it, which means it is at 4 out of 8 (lower is better). Read:

ProsumerDiamond link
Therefore, check with iDo for the IdealScope and ASET as suggested by bb100, they do have them according to what I was told.

Wow, same proportions, other than the depth.
Tab Percent: 1A
Crown Angle: 2B
Crown Height: 1A
Pavilion Depth: 1B
Girdle: 1B
Depth: 1B
Polish: 1A
Symmetry: 1A
TotalGrade: 1B

Girdle and depth grading drop slightly by 1 grade. HCA is same as before @1.9. Fire is excellent because of the steep crown @36 degrees, but at the expense of brilliance (light return).

But then, my advice is still go for the 0.4ct because every 0.1ct is a big jump, and the amount difference (RM 400) does not seem to fill the actual price difference. In other words, 0.4ct is more value for money. 0.34ct is not worth it in this case.

If you buy anything less than 0.4ct from iDo, WhiteFlash can offer you a better deal. They provide free shipping as well as insurance (but the price for shipment and insurance is taxable in Malaysia at 6%, luckily it is not that much). The diamond is also taxable, but then even adding in 6% GST, the price is still cheaper than what is offered to you. Just plug in the numbers into Datlas Cut Grader and HCA, I am sure the score will be better than what iDo offered you for the 0.34ct. Also, I have also included in RM 2000 for the setting when calculating the price.
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In fact, another diamond that is sold by BGD is very close to 0.4ct, but you save on the premium for the 0.1ct price jump. They provide you with all the details, and the price is still not bad. Although it is SI1, since this is their signature diamond, it should be fine, then D colour is even 1 grade higher, although not significantly higher. But then, people will notice the overall colour more than clarity because colour is more obvious.
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/
The downside of BGD is that you may need to pay for the shipping, insurance, and the ring box (as far as I remember). Anyway, I may check with them when I have the time.

So once again, my advice is to go for 0.4ct if possible. If not, buy online elsewhere is cheaper.

Here is the math for a 0.33ct diamond:
I round up to 900 USD. Exhange rate I put it 4.53 so diamond price is RM 4077. Add in GST, total is RM 4321.62. Add in tax for freight and insurance, probably will only cost you something like RM 50 - RM 100. Anyway, I just put high enough til RM 4500. So diamond price is RM 1000 difference. Let iDo do the setting is probably RM 1900 (last heard is this). So I boost up til RM 2000. So total is RM 6500. Complete ring. E color and F color is 1 grade different. So is VS1 and VS2. But you now get a super ideal cut from WhiteFlash, compare to a over-steep 36 degrees. I am not expert, but I know 36 degrees is not that recommended by experts, unless of course when the deal is good, but it is not in this case.