hi all,

if looking for a low budget (<RM4k) ring with higher carat but quality not good, where to find?

is the quality that important?

They don't have a physical shop though, so I can't really check out the light performance but according to the reviews they got, all very positive

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2171945737 << not sure if this is wat u looking for

what do you mean by quality?

diamond got 4C
- Carat
- Color
- Clarity
- Cut

which 1 u talking?

You can try and request for the ASET image of your diamond. Like James Allen, they might have it on file.

This is the HCA score for your diamond, a healthy 1.9.



Since budget is your main concern, I believe this is the most ideal range without sacrificing much on cut.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 7 2017, 12:12 PM

to girls, usually carat is important for face, the other C's important too?

well true also...but ur budget 4k...means the diamond will looks very yellowish?

touche... but dunnit go for top grade la.. lowest quality that's indiscernible to the naked eye should be good enuf gua, if look yellow means too low grade d lo..

Hi guys, I also looking for engagement ring for future wife.. Still thinking where shall I get the ring with, i saw Zcova got promotion 0.50ct with setting around RM 9K plus. I like the IDo setting which look solid.. Dont know how the price will be...

Color - F / G should be good enough

Clarity - SI 1 or SI 2

just get a quotation from them

i am still checking with iDo about my budget and wat setting can i get

i too wan buy ring for myself men ring . wer can buy ?

I not yet contact them, plan to do so.. Since our currency drop, i guess we surely have to pay more for our ring

Colour can go down to H. If it is a finely cut stone, its fire and brilliance will mask the slightly yellowish tint.

SI1 or SI2 might be a bit risky if you are buying blind. Buying blind means you don't get to see and inspect your diamond under various scopes and conditions. Although some SIs can be eye-clean, they are categorised as a SI for a reason. It might be a feather near the edge (common for SIs), a huge cloud deeply embedded within the stone or whatever. So for safety, I would advise jrrsim to go VS2 lowest.

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Since budget is your main concern, SI1 or SI2 also ok lahh, but do check the type of inclusions. If it is a feather, check its location. If it is a cloud, check whether it is colourless. That sort of thing.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 7 2017, 01:14 PM

True to a certain extend. Why? Let me give you an example.

Your wife has a diamond ring with so-so cut, so-so clarity and so-so everything, but it is a 1-carat diamond. Her friend has a 0.8-carat ring with tiptop 3Ex, F colour and VS1 clarity. When they compare side by side, for sure your wife's 1 carat will own her friend's cuz it looks bigger and it hits the magic 1-carat number. But when they test for the bling-bling factor, that 1 carat with so-so cut will lose 9 street man cuz it is as good looking as a piece of glass.

especially they will put in under light to see it blink...if clarity and color tak kuat...will lose out...when they lose out...they come back to u...and u suffer

i doubt girls will go home and bring out the diamond ring to compare gua after wedding.. some more after few months then usually cold storage liao..

But you said carat is important for face mahh, so I thought your future wife likes to compare wan.

But still, don't go too stingy on cut just because you wanna maximise carat weight. Really not worth it one bro.

i wan something she is happy with without breaking the bank la pretty much.. not something to show off with but something that won't "lose face" also la if show to other ppl, if you know what i mean..

i don't wanna go too low also la but to me, the super excellent or "hearts and arrows" quality is an overkill since a typical person wouldn't know, usually the guy buying the wedding ring knows more and ends up paying more for nothing.. cos obviously not planning to ever sell the ring so dun care about resale value either..

tl;dr: just want something she will treasure without going overkill..

Ok I understand.

Then my suggestion is to still go for a 3Ex stone but one which is at the lower end of the spectrum. They will still have the hearts and arrows formation, but with defects. Let me show you some images of such diamonds

The price per carat for these diamonds is much lower so you can maximise your carat weight.

Please hang on while I look for the images. Currently on the mobile version.

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https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2358385



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2382386



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2226224



https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/r...cut-sku-2325036

All these are slightly deep cut, so their face-up size will be smaller compared to a finely cut 3Ex, but they ARE STILL 3Exes. Also note the inclusions in the stones. This is roughly what you will get for a SI1 clarity diamond.

The 4th one is as eye-clean as it gets but there is a huge feather at the edge of the diamond on the top left. This will pose durability issues in the long run as your ring is subjected to occasional knocks here and there, which will propagate the feather on to the surface of the diamond. Once the stress is too much for it to handle, it will either form a crack on the surface or worse, chip off.

I am no way a diamond expert, only sharing the fruits of my research from the net and speaking to jewellers for nearly a year.

This post has been edited by bb100: Jan 8 2017, 10:09 AM

whoaa... thanks so much.. this is what I'm looking for, so any recommended sellers or where to find this acceptable quality of diamonds?
now i have learned a bit how to look at diamonds... hehe..