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TSjacky91
post Jan 3 2017, 09:10 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi guys,

Am currently searching for a proposal ring, budget around RM 6k to 7k biggrin.gif i know there are a lot of brands out there...but which 1 should I go for? What are the differences between them?

Also, i have never measured my gf's ring size...which finger should I measure for? How can I do it secretly?

Or can I buy the ring without knowing her ring size? Can I request to change it to different size later on?
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post Jan 3 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 3 2017, 09:10 AM)
Hi guys,

Am currently searching for a proposal ring, budget around RM 6k to 7k biggrin.gif i know there are a lot of brands out there...but which 1 should I go for? What are the differences between them?

Also, i have never measured my gf's ring size...which finger should I measure for? How can I do it secretly?

Or can I buy the ring without knowing her ring size? Can I request to change it to different size later on?
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Non-mainstream stores can consider (just google/facebook them):
1. Tailored 1Jewel (The diamonds they offer me is decent, I think all of them scored 100% on Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator (https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator) and all of them scored below 2 for HCA (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, lower score is better) and the price is good. I did not purchase from them because I prefer super ideal whereby Hearts and Arrows can be seen clearly, however I did ask them to custom made my ring setting. Although the final product did not meet my expectation, which I think is a rare case for Tailored Jewel, but they honour their money-back guarantee and refunded me in full, hence I will still recommend them. You may read about my experience here: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ia-review.html). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

2. iDo Jewellery (My ring is customized by them, there are some initial problems, but the overall outcome is alright. (http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot.my/2016/08/looking-for-ring-setting.html)

3. ZCOVA (The diamond I randomly asked recently seems good for that price point, hence I will recommend it as well, although some diamonds they offer me previously did not fare well on the Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator or HCA, so just request for the GIA number of the diamonds they are able to offer for your budget). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

Mainstream stores (Wah Chan is recommended by colleagues and forumers, while Habib is recommended by forumer. It seems that both have competitive prices for GIA graded diamonds:
1. Wah Chan

2. Habib

Online from USA:
1. WhiteFlash (I bought my stone from this site, got taxed 6% GST for importing it in). http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ash-review.html

2. Brian Gavin Diamonds (Recommended this because the cutter used to be with WhiteFlash)

Other Tips:
1. Now, for your budget, you probably can get something around 0.4-0.48ct. Importing in a WhiteFlash 0.4~0.43ct super ideal diamond + ring setting done locally will up your budget til around RM 8K.
2. Buying loose diamond and ring setting separately will be more expensive.
3. Western custom is left hand ring finger.
4. It is hard to measure without letting her know, but you can try to do it when she is sleeping, or ask her family/friends. Also, you have to know her preference, some people like it tight, some people don't. If I were to do it all over again, I will propose using a temporary loose stone ring holder: http://beyond4cs.com/loose-diamonds/is-it-...-mounted-stone/. And then, I will go find a custom setting together. This is because resizing can have complications, such as slight drop in quality compared to the first time, also, some settings are so unique that they are unable to be resized. If you like this way, you can get the ring holder at AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPI...20-317462baee4b
5. Lastly, you can post your questions here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3224055&hl=
TSjacky91
post Jan 3 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jan 3 2017, 11:51 AM)
Non-mainstream stores can consider (just google/facebook them):
1. Tailored 1Jewel (The diamonds they offer me is decent, I think all of them scored 100% on Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator (https://enchanteddiamonds.com/cut-score-calculator) and all of them scored below 2 for HCA (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca, lower score is better) and the price is good. I did not purchase from them because I prefer super ideal whereby Hearts and Arrows can be seen clearly, however I did ask them to custom made my ring setting. Although the final product did not meet my expectation, which I think is a rare case for Tailored Jewel, but they honour their money-back guarantee and refunded me in full, hence I will still recommend them. You may read about my experience here: http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ia-review.html). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

2. iDo Jewellery (My ring is customized by them, there are some initial problems, but the overall outcome is alright. (http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot.my/2016/08/looking-for-ring-setting.html)

3. ZCOVA (The diamond I randomly asked recently seems good for that price point, hence I will recommend it as well, although some diamonds they offer me previously did not fare well on the Enchanted Diamond Cut Score Calculator or HCA, so just request for the GIA number of the diamonds they are able to offer for your budget). They should be having promotion now, so feel free to ask them.

Mainstream stores (Wah Chan is recommended by colleagues and forumers, while Habib is recommended by forumer. It seems that both have competitive prices for GIA graded diamonds:
1. Wah Chan

2. Habib

Online from USA:
1. WhiteFlash (I bought my stone from this site, got taxed 6% GST for importing it in). http://myengagementringexperience.blogspot...ash-review.html

2. Brian Gavin Diamonds (Recommended this because the cutter used to be with WhiteFlash)

Other Tips:
1. Now, for your budget, you probably can get something around 0.4-0.48ct. Importing in a WhiteFlash 0.4~0.43ct super ideal diamond + ring setting done locally will up your budget til around RM 8K.
2. Buying loose diamond and ring setting separately will be more expensive.
3. Western custom is left hand ring finger.
4. It is hard to measure without letting her know, but you can try to do it when she is sleeping, or ask her family/friends. Also, you have to know her preference, some people like it tight, some people don't. If I were to do it all over again, I will propose using a temporary loose stone ring holder: http://beyond4cs.com/loose-diamonds/is-it-...-mounted-stone/. And then, I will go find a custom setting together. This is because resizing can have complications, such as slight drop in quality compared to the first time, also, some settings are so unique that they are unable to be resized. If you like this way, you can get the ring holder at AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPI...20-317462baee4b
5. Lastly, you can post your questions here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3224055&hl=
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Hey! Thanks for the detail!

So you purchase the diamond and ring/setting separately? That would be more costly right?

How long did it took for you to receive your diamond?

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post Jan 3 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 3 2017, 01:12 PM)
Hey! Thanks for the detail!

So you purchase the diamond and ring/setting separately? That would be more costly right?

How long did it took for you to receive your diamond?
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Few days... If shipped out on Tuesday from US, probably can receive latest by Friday, for West Malaysia. WhiteFlash uses Fedex International Priority, so it is pretty fast. Please also note that WhiteFlash, which is based in Houston, is slower by 14 hours, so even if you purchase at 4pm Malaysia time, they are still able to ship out around 11pm - 12am our time, and someone from Fedex will actually be able to pick them up that time. Fedex will help you pay all the necessary taxes first, so please prepare slightly more than 6% of your purchase price. This is because on top of the item you purchase, you will need to pay the taxes for the shipment and insurance, which is actually not that much, compare to the 6% of the diamond.

And yes, making the setting separately is more costly, but it gives me more freedom, so I am okay with it.

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post Jan 3 2017, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jan 3 2017, 02:01 PM)
Few days... If shipped out on Tuesday from US, probably can receive latest by Friday, for West Malaysia. WhiteFlash uses Fedex International Priority, so it is pretty fast. Please also note that WhiteFlash, which is based in Houston, is slower by 14 hours, so even if you purchase at 4pm Malaysia time, they are still able to ship out around 11pm - 12am our time, and someone from Fedex will actually be able to pick them up that time. Fedex will help you pay all the necessary taxes first, so please prepare slightly more than 6% of your purchase price. This is because on top of the item you purchase, you will need to pay the taxes for the shipment and insurance, which is actually not that much, compare to the 6% of the diamond.

And yes, making the setting separately is more costly, but it gives me more freedom, so I am okay with it.
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I checked the website and found 1 i am interested in, but then down there wrote "Center diamond sold separately. Not included in style information or price." does that mean the price is not including the diamond? only for the ring? sweat.gif
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post Jan 3 2017, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 3 2017, 03:12 PM)
I checked the website and found 1 i am interested in, but then down there wrote "Center diamond sold separately. Not included in style information or price." does that mean the price is not including the diamond? only for the ring?  sweat.gif
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If you are referring to Designer Ring Setting, unfortunately, it is really sold separately. Normal ring setting is already more expensive than what you can get locally, so designer ring setting itself is definitely more expensive. However, the loose diamond price is quite competitive for such quality, that's why I purchased my loose diamond there, and have it set locally.
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post Jan 3 2017, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jan 3 2017, 03:53 PM)
If you are referring to Designer Ring Setting, unfortunately, it is really sold separately. Normal ring setting is already more expensive than what you can get locally, so designer ring setting itself is definitely more expensive. However, the loose diamond price is quite competitive for such quality, that's why I purchased my loose diamond there, and have it set locally.
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wah...ring alone sudah 1.5k usd...gg sweat.gif
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post Jan 4 2017, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 3 2017, 04:57 PM)
wah...ring alone sudah 1.5k usd...gg  sweat.gif
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You can always get customized setting here. I got mine from iDo Jewellery, however, I heard that price has increased til RM 1,900 now for simple solitaire design.
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post Jan 4 2017, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jan 4 2017, 01:03 AM)
You can always get customized setting here. I got mine from iDo Jewellery, however, I heard that price has increased til RM 1,900 now for simple solitaire design.
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how much in total did u spent?

i might do the same as u...buy diamond from WhiteFlash and get the settings done here


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post Jan 4 2017, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 4 2017, 06:42 AM)
how much in total did u spent?

i might do the same as u...buy diamond from WhiteFlash and get the settings done here
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Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct.
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post Jan 4 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 4 2017, 06:42 AM)
how much in total did u spent?

i might do the same as u...buy diamond from WhiteFlash and get the settings done here
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Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct F color VS2.

If you decided to buy from WhiteFlash, appreciate if you can use my affiliate link:
http://www.whiteflash.com/?a_aid=myengringexp

And quote me as referral:
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post Jan 4 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jan 4 2017, 09:18 AM)
Between - 10K to 11K, my diamond is 0.53ct F color VS2.

If you decided to buy from WhiteFlash, appreciate if you can use my affiliate link:
http://www.whiteflash.com/?a_aid=myengringexp

And quote me as referral:
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Will do smile.gif should i decided to buy from there...haha

thanks for the guidance though biggrin.gif
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post Jan 4 2017, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 4 2017, 09:31 AM)
Will do smile.gif should i decided to buy from there...haha

thanks for the guidance though biggrin.gif
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wink.gif all the best!
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post Jan 6 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 3 2017, 09:10 AM)
Hi guys,

Am currently searching for a proposal ring, budget around RM 6k to 7k biggrin.gif i know there are a lot of brands out there...but which 1 should I go for? What are the differences between them?

Also, i have never measured my gf's ring size...which finger should I measure for? How can I do it secretly?

Or can I buy the ring without knowing her ring size? Can I request to change it to different size later on?
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Ever thought of getting your diamond from JannPaul? A famous Singaporean brand. But before I go on any further, I would like to highlight the fact that I am not in any way affiliated with JannPaul.

I recently purchased a heart shaped diamond from them at an extremely satisfying price haha. Plus, they have a very interesting interest-free payment plan, whereby you can reserve a diamond for up to 6 months with a "downpayment" of S$500. Within this 6 months if you come across any better stones, you can request for their ASET, Idealscope, H&A and actual diamond images for free, and you can switch diamonds if you like what you see.

You can pay whatever amount you that are comfortable with every month, and they will hold your diamond until you fully settle the payment, be it 6 months, 8 months or whatever. I reserved my heart shape for S$500 in December and now I am waiting for my setting to be rendered (yes, that customised Verragio setting). I will pay again only when they call me over to discuss the ring design - maybe this month, maybe February, I don't know. I have also mentioned to them that I will only need my proposal ring in July so I will drag my payment over 7 months from Dec 16-Jul 17. They are ok with it haha. But before I finish paying, I cannot collect my ring lahh, that's the only downside.

Below are the drillz of the images I mentioned:

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post Jan 7 2017, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jan 6 2017, 09:33 PM)
Ever thought of getting your diamond from JannPaul? A famous Singaporean brand. But before I go on any further, I would like to highlight the fact that I am not in any way affiliated with JannPaul.

I recently purchased a heart shaped diamond from them at an extremely satisfying price haha. Plus, they have a very interesting interest-free payment plan, whereby you can reserve a diamond for up to 6 months with a "downpayment" of S$500. Within this 6 months if you come across any better stones, you can request for their ASET, Idealscope, H&A and actual diamond images for free, and you can switch diamonds if you like what you see.

You can pay whatever amount you that are comfortable with every month, and they will hold your diamond until you fully settle the payment, be it 6 months, 8 months or whatever. I reserved my heart shape for S$500 in December and now I am waiting for my setting to be rendered (yes, that customised Verragio setting). I will pay again only when they call me over to discuss the ring design - maybe this month, maybe February, I don't know. I have also mentioned to them that I will only need my proposal ring in July so I will drag my payment over 7 months from Dec 16-Jul 17. They are ok with it haha. But before I finish paying, I cannot collect my ring lahh, that's the only downside.

Below are the drillz of the images I mentioned:

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Thx for recommending bro biggrin.gif

i am currently checking out iDO...and calculating on my budget

not sure if i wanna spend so much money on the ring, because everyone i asked told me that the ring no need to be too expensive, as it got no resale value after buying...basically juz for collection...might as well use the money to plan for wedding ><
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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 7 2017, 11:30 AM)
Thx for recommending bro biggrin.gif

i am currently checking out iDO...and calculating on my budget

not sure if i wanna spend so much money on the ring, because everyone i asked told me that the ring no need to be too expensive, as it got no resale value after buying...basically juz for collection...might as well use the money to plan for wedding ><
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Depends on how you see the ring lohh. For me, I see it as a one-in-a-lifetime kind of thing. Takkan you every year also buy >0.5 carat punya diamond ring for your wife right? Unless you are extremely loaded lahh then different story haha.
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post Jan 7 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jan 7 2017, 11:36 AM)
Depends on how you see the ring lohh. For me, I see it as a one-in-a-lifetime kind of thing. Takkan you every year also buy >0.5 carat punya diamond ring for your wife right? Unless you are extremely loaded lahh then different story haha.
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hahaha! i wish i could...can afford maximum of 0.4 only sad.gif quotation from iDo is 7.7k MYR
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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 7 2017, 11:39 AM)
hahaha! i wish i could...can afford maximum of 0.4 only sad.gif quotation from iDo is 7.7k MYR
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RM7,700 for the stone only or with the setting?

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post Jan 7 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Jan 7 2017, 11:41 AM)
RM7,700 for the stone only or with the setting?
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with the setting

http://www.idojewellery.com/product/rs-003/

18K White Gold Solitaire Ring
1D – 0.40ct
E, VS1
Triple Excellents
Ideal Cut
Fluorescence None
With GIA certificate
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QUOTE(jacky91 @ Jan 7 2017, 11:43 AM)
with the setting

http://www.idojewellery.com/product/rs-003/

18K White Gold Solitaire Ring
1D – 0.40ct
E, VS1
Triple Excellents
Ideal Cut
Fluorescence None
With GIA certificate
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Wow, that price is good! Go for it bro.

But before you agree on anything, check the light performance of the diamond. Do they have ASET scope in store? Don't take the 3Ex at face value bro, there are good and bad 3Exes out there. Do you mind sharing your diamond's GIA number with me?

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