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 Tutorial on Ubiquiti Edgerouter for unifi/maxis, Edgerouter settings ftw

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post Dec 30 2016, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Dec 29 2016, 08:17 AM)
Edgerouter-x has a mediatek processor running at 880mhz single core. Paired with a switch chip. This router is capable of offloading a nated internet up to 800mbit/second.
In the other hand, edgerouter lite has a cavium processor running at 500mhz dual core. All of the ports are connected to the cpu directly, because it lacks a switch chip. So if u have an internet that can provide 2gbit/second, u can actually pull 920mbit/second per port from the other 2 lan. Usually people use this router because they have their own robust l2/l3 switch to pair it with. I hope my expalanation is clear. Cheers
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ER-X actually had dual core. The NAT (over PPPoE without encryption/compression) performance I tested is actually about 900Mbps single direction. I read it was somehow crippled by design that it cannot do 1Gbps bidirectional. And what do you mean by 2Gbps internet? 1Gb bidirectional (2x1Gbps)? That doesn't mean you can download at 2Gbps, just that you can upload 1Gbps & download 1Gbps at the same time. Technically speaking it is possible for 2Gbps single direction if you connect all the 3 ports to a switch with VLAN etc, but it will be messy & not worth the money.

Anyway since you have ERL, can you benchmark (NAT over PPPoE without encyption/compression) it when you free. I'm curious about the actual number since back when I used to have an ERL, PPPoE offloading was not supported back then.

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post Dec 30 2016, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Dec 30 2016, 12:58 AM)
I think maybe get an er-poe and a dumb 8 port switch. Get a decent ones.
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Thank you so much! This is my favorite thread on lowyat!

What would be a decent Dumb Switch? Looking at Ubiquiti looks like they don't have






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post Dec 30 2016, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kutitata @ Dec 30 2016, 01:13 PM)
Thank you so much! This is my favorite thread on lowyat!

What would be a decent Dumb Switch? Looking at Ubiquiti looks like they don't have
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Ubiquiti dont have one. Maybe u can look into netgear gs108 or linksys lgs108. Even the ones from cisco is not that expensive. Heyy.. ur the best man! Its my fav too. Probably a lil bias. Lol
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QUOTE(jio @ Dec 30 2016, 03:54 AM)
ER-X actually had dual core. The NAT (over PPPoE without encryption/compression) performance I tested is actually about 900Mbps single direction. I read it was somehow crippled by design that it cannot do 1Gbps bidirectional. And what do you mean by 2Gbps internet? 1Gb bidirectional (2x1Gbps)? That doesn't mean you can download at 2Gbps, just that you can upload 1Gbps & download 1Gbps at the same time. Technically speaking it is possible for 2Gbps single direction if you connect all the 3 ports to a switch with VLAN etc, but it will be messy & not worth the money.

Anyway since you have ERL, can you benchmark (NAT over PPPoE without encyption/compression) it when you free. I'm curious about the actual number since back when I used to have an ERL, PPPoE offloading was not supported back then.
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Thank you for pointing it out. Maybe i was just trying explain it in theory. I think u have explained it better than i did. Yes, all of the performance details u mentioned are accurate. Pppoe from a few guys off ubiquiti forum hit 920ish up and down. I can try do the test but i have to fly back home to sarawak to do that. I hope u can find someone who can do that since my erl is not very accessible for the time being.
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post Dec 31 2016, 10:31 AM

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How is the interface for ER-POE to control the UAP AC LR?

Because the US-8-150 is perfect for that right? how about the ER-POE?

Briging this article to attention as well:-

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/ERPoE...RO/td-p/1507325

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post Dec 31 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(kutitata @ Dec 31 2016, 10:31 AM)
How is the interface for ER-POE to control the UAP AC LR?

Because the US-8-150 is perfect for that right? how about the ER-POE?

Briging this article to attention as well:-

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/ERPoE...RO/td-p/1507325
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U can use the unifi controller for us-8 and all your aps. Only er-poe has its own web gui.
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post Jan 1 2017, 12:43 PM

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So after reading and trying to understand...

For 9 connections (3 of needing POE)

option A
ERPOE5 & Linksys LGS108

option B
ERL & US-8-150 (1 WAN and 2 LAN on ERL)

option C
ERL connects to US-8-150 which connects to Linksys LGS 108

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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jan 1 2017, 12:43 PM)
So after reading and trying to understand...

For 9 connections (3 of needing POE)

option A
ERPOE5 & Linksys LGS108

option B
ERL & US-8-150 (1 WAN and 2 LAN on ERL)

option C
ERL connects to US-8-150 which connects to Linksys LGS 108
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Option A is perfect
Option B only gives 8 usable ports
Option C is a no brainer.
=)
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post Jan 1 2017, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Jan 1 2017, 06:00 PM)
Option A is perfect
Option B only gives 8 usable ports
Option C is a no brainer.
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Thanks again for answering my question...

One last thing...

when I do set up all the LANs, how will it go?

the three APs connected to the ER-POE will be on separate LANs?

How will that affect the network..?


Some people set up one LAN for wired and a WLAN for the wireless...

Then it would be ERL, TS-5-POE and Linksys LGS108


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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jan 1 2017, 06:16 PM)
Thanks again for answering my question...

One last thing...

when I do set up all the LANs, how will it go?

the three APs connected to the ER-POE will be on separate LANs?

How will that affect the network..?
Some people set up one LAN for wired and a WLAN for the wireless...

Then it would be ERL, TS-5-POE and Linksys LGS108
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u can set it up either way. a lot of people do that because they want to segment their activity. some even do it for fun. setup different subnet for different places in the house. saperate their cctv is common. i think you should segment subnet separating only cctv vs all other online devices. unless u have voip, u can add another subnet with different vlan.
wired and wireless is not necessarily needed to be separated. what if u want to cast your youtube from yr phone to your tv via chromecast or miracast. yr phone and your tv wont be able to see each other if u want to cast. maybe you want to stream something from your nas to your laptop. that also prevent it to communicate to each other.

erl+ts5poe+lgs108 is not bad. it makes it possible for u to setup hypptv together.

your setup maybe look like this for erl
eth0 = wan
eth1= lan 1
eth2= hypptv

lan 1 can daisy chain both ts5poe and lgs108 with no issue.
ts5poe can accommodate 3 aps and one more lan available to use
lgs108 is clearly open for everything else. =)
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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Jan 1 2017, 11:08 PM)
u can set it up either way. a lot of people do that because they want to segment their activity. some even do it for fun. setup different subnet for different places in the house. saperate their cctv is common. i think you should segment subnet separating only cctv vs all other online devices. unless u have voip, u can add another subnet with different vlan.
wired and wireless is not necessarily needed to be separated. what if u want to cast your youtube from yr phone to your tv via chromecast or miracast. yr phone and your tv wont be able to see each other if u want to cast. maybe you want to stream something from your nas to your laptop. that also prevent it to communicate to each other.

erl+ts5poe+lgs108 is not bad. it makes it possible for u to setup hypptv together.

your setup maybe look like this for erl
eth0 = wan
eth1= lan 1
eth2= hypptv

lan 1 can daisy chain both ts5poe and lgs108 with no issue.
ts5poe can accommodate 3 aps and one more lan available to use
lgs108 is clearly open for everything else. =)
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Thank you so much smile.gif

I would like to view the CCTV stream on mobile devices whilst at home, would that mean that it should be on the same subnet?

ERL

-Hypptv

-LGS108

--(all 6 connections)

--TS5POE

---(3 UAP AC LR)

---(Spare)

What about QoS? Does it help in a home set up? Like for instance to prioritize the android boxes to ensure good streaming?



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post Jan 3 2017, 10:53 AM

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Hi Where does one buy this brand in KL?
Many thanks!

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Jan 3 2017, 10:53 AM)
Hi Where does one buy this brand in KL?
Many thanks!
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a few resellers listed here:-

https://www.ubnt.com/distributors/#asia
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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jan 3 2017, 10:22 AM)
Thank you so much  smile.gif

I would like to view the CCTV stream on mobile devices whilst at home, would that mean that it should be on the same subnet?

ERL

-Hypptv

-LGS108

--(all 6 connections)

--TS5POE

---(3 UAP AC LR)

---(Spare)

What about QoS? Does it help in a home set up? Like for instance to prioritize the android boxes to ensure good streaming?
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Its all based on your own activity and how much people are using it simultiniously. If u have 30mbps and at least 2 ppl are streaming 4k videos at the same time, may a person is gaming online too. Maybe qos is a good idea. But other than that, the router on its own is performing rly well. Eg: 5 ppl max in my house at one time, i stream netflix 4k, another person stream youtube 4k, while another stream netflix on her phone. And the rest use normal youtube and web surfing normally. Never once my 50mbps is having a hiccup. Everything loads without buffer, n never slow down. Then again, this example is for a 50mbps. 30mbps and lower will vary. Non 4k streamer are always happy with 20-30mbps in my experience. Cheers
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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Jan 3 2017, 01:35 PM)
Its all based on your own activity and how much people are using it simultiniously. If u have 30mbps and at least 2 ppl are streaming 4k videos at the same time, may a person is gaming online too. Maybe qos is a good idea. But other than that, the router on its own is performing rly well. Eg: 5 ppl max in my house at one time, i stream netflix 4k, another person stream youtube 4k, while another stream netflix on her phone. And the rest use normal youtube and web surfing normally. Never once my 50mbps is having a hiccup. Everything loads without buffer, n never slow down. Then again, this example is for a 50mbps. 30mbps and lower will vary. Non 4k streamer are always happy with 20-30mbps in my experience. Cheers
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Wow, are you using the erl?

Mind explaining a bit on your hardware and set up?
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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jan 3 2017, 06:45 PM)
Wow, are you using the erl?

Mind explaining a bit on your hardware and set up?
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Yeap i am on erl. Using a 8port smart switch to handle my vlan and lan. One uap ac lite. All can acommodate 10+ wired and wireless.
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QUOTE(wanttotree @ Jan 4 2017, 10:54 PM)
Yeap i am on erl. Using a 8port smart switch to handle my vlan and lan. One uap ac lite. All can acommodate 10+ wired and wireless.
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Okey, so now I am sold!
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What about

ER-SFP & LGS108...

why ER-SFP and ER-POE5 so much difference in price?
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QUOTE(kutitata @ Jan 5 2017, 07:47 AM)
What about

ER-SFP & LGS108...

why ER-SFP and ER-POE5 so much difference in price?
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Er-x sfp is basically er-x with sfp port. If u gonna find a use for it thats gonna be great. Price diff is because its not the same hardware. Both exist for somewhat diff users. In this case, er-sfp is better paired with sfp featured switch. Eg: es8 or us8.
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then you have convinced me to go the ERPOE5 + LGS108 route

can we set the hypptv to the LGS108 ?

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