Not all i can say here. this is our comment or people voice opinion. so is depend of the people own taste. People want to comment is up to them but everything must be tested before talk/comment. How superior of this mylar is ?? price??? or isolation?? for me this Mylar product is a low budget item with high quality sound provide.

So pls not to comment if you not using it before. try it then you will know it...

Anyone having problem with X3i where the cable disattached from the earpiece? cause i read in 2 forum already and they have this problem, i wondr the new batch fix this already, if fix i might wana get 1

Saw those comments and reviews as well. Was worried at first.

But after some further research, it is known that only the first batch have these problem. Mine for now, still going strong

I read one recently said
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2469.0


ordered 2-3 months ago, is this first batch, cause first batch is around november ...

i wonder if warranty covers this?

it is covered under one to one exchange policy

Dont worry we will cover the exchange.

well as my name were quote at the statement, i think i shall come out to clarify my personal statement.

Isolation Statement:

i said that she9500 has no isolation as it doesn't isolate any sound, even compare to philips Hp890 headphone. which when i going outside with it. i have to max out the volume of my mp3 player. i can hear my ceiling fan sound even though i am in a quiet room with she9500 stick in my ear. tested with all size of the silicon bud provided. this might due to the small hole built behind the earphone is leaking too much of sound, and the silicon ear bud does not fit really tight to the earphone itself. so it's LEAK everywhere. and to be honest, besides the risk of being knock by car, i don't see any harm of good isolation, especially on high noise area.

according to ASHA & NSSLHA , there's journal published to mention that at high noise area, we shall use protective ear plug to cut down the relative high noise. so at high noise area, such as shopping complex, roads, streets; when people like to use their earphone, people tend to use their earphone over loud. and causing irreversible damage to their hearing as they can easily boost up more than 110 DB of sound.
which in this case, if one would like to use their earphone to enjoy music, i don't see why isolation is a bad issue here. infact, according to etymotic research, high isolation earbud were highly recommended to cut out the ambient noise, so that people can use their earphone to enjoy music with lower volume, rather than tune up their volume to fight / overcome the ambient noise.

which in this case, as a user of she9500, i will say that this earbud rated "passive noise canceling" had failed it's job. as Davis u also mentioned that high noise isolation is bad for end user. i wonder why philips come out with the statement passive noise canceling all over their package. other than that, philips also produce headphone with active noise canceling. which, again, i don't see any bad point of having high isolation earphone.

According to European and US consumer association study, they did recommend a guideline of headphone, and earphone listening hours, and yet again the total listening hours of earphone is VERY MUCH depend on the volume, say more than 90 dB, user are suggested to user their earphone less than 2 hours, while the volume of between 65-75dB, user can use their earphone up to 6 hours with minimum risk of damage their hearing.

once again, listening earphone at low volume / or in quiet environment is encouraged, so high isolation earphone isn't that bad idea imho.



Bloated bass statement

through my personal experience, i found out that SHE9500 has MUCH bloated bass as compare to other iem, such as cx300, mylar, or im716.
the bloated bass of she9500 is even more than sony EX71. therefore, saying that mylar earphone has bloated bass and claim that the company is desperate, irresponsible is truly act of irresponsible seller, as you currently mislead customer without even try at the mylar earphone itself. how could you say that mylar has bloated bass while phillips she9500 does produce even much bloated bass? so in this case would you rate phillips as desperate / irresponsible manufacturer?




Gunman statement

i personally used mylar 3 when my trip to sarawak for my study. isolation wise, i feel it did quite not bad job, but of couse, not up to the extend of IM716. for usual KTM riding, i think mylar3 is more than enough. as for sound quality. i feel that it's so so only (check my signature for my reference) . but it's best u can get below RM 160 with isolation, and portable enough.

recabled ksc75 on the other hand sound better than mylar series according to my personal preference. say dynamic, impact, bass quality and yada yada. BUT ksc75 does sound thin on mid range as compare to Mylar 2, while ksc75 has relatively NO isolation as it sit right above ur ear. u can even hear people gossip when u put ksc75 on without turn the music on.
so it's an give an take...

personal experience as i used the she9500, ksc75, and mylar 3 on trip to ipoh ( from serdang -> KTM -> bandar tasik selatan -> Star -> Plaza rakyat -> bus -> ipoh. )i personally disappointed with the isolation of she9500. as i have to tune up volume higher, and then at the time i get into bus, my ear is really painful.
however, personally i like ksc75 sound better than mylar 3. so my personal choice will be using mylar 3 before get on bus. and switch to ksc75 after i am in the bus and enjoy the ride.

therefore, from what i see, yuheng doesn't overstate the "good point" of the mylar3. while remain open to suggest customer about some philips headphone, or ksc75 as lower budget but yet fun headphone, ACCORDING TO WHAT A CUSTOMER NEED.




Conclusion

above statement, were written as i WAS user of both she9500, and mylar3. i am not selling both of them. so i guess there is no "gunman-ship" or bias to any of the seller. and i do hope that please do not take words i said, and use it as a statement for argument. in this way, one might possible to mislead end user. and to be honest, i will rather suggest user to get creative EP630 which cost only RM 50 at Pcfair, rather than she9500 / she9600 as it sound much better ACCORDING TO MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE.



Peace Suggestion:

if DAVIS feel that walabies and yuheng were gunman, i think it's best that davis provide some test sample at yuheng place. so that customer can actually compare both philips and mylar before they decided to buy. with this. we as customer can have a relative fair comparison and know what we are looking for.
it's best to co-operate, and gain a friend, rather than adding up yourself another enemy.
or yuheng / walabies might be able to do the opposite too.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 19 2008, 02:05 PM

well..I am one of the Philips SHE9501 user
this is my 1st entry earphone which cursed me spend alot in audio ...LOL

i dont find that there is some1 to step and talk about bad about she9500 to spoil our MR DAVIS Philips earphone SALES
they are just share their point of view

to be honest..
ISOLATION OF SHE9500 is quite SUXKS!!!
there a failure of design of the shape of the phone, hence it just cant put in the earcanal properly
look at the picture below and it will give u the clear idea on what i talking about



right side is SHE9500 while left side is SHE9600
obviously the 9600 is improved version, the shape is improved
the driver is longer and greater tilt
she9500 driver can't be insert deep into ear canal as it's wire stress relief will touch the ear. while the she9600 were tilt more to the ear drum, hence the 9600 can be insert into ear canal and provide better noise isolation"

This post has been edited by yeah_guyz: Mar 19 2008, 02:02 AM

the SHE9500 i had own it before which is my first earphone too. but i very dissapointed with the design as well. still leak/ not really full isolation. Currently i have the SHE9600 well nothing to say still the same...aiks..

how come suddenly this thread becomes philips iem discussion?

lol... about to say the same... i thought the topic was about crossroad mylar... still there's always quote " the freedom of speach!! " ^__^ well at least i gain a bit of knowledge here... ^__^

There are no borderline for the topic to be discussed in lowyat forums...

new mylarone x3i reporting in..today when i plug in my x3i, i was suprised that the the sound sucked so much..after a while i found out that i wasnt plug it in properly..

after burned in for about 20 hours..the sound has gotten much more accurate and clearer..the bass is just nice..
a great bang for the buck i would say.

AHAHAHAH! Wait till it reaches 50 hours!

what are the improvements of X3i over the predecessor X3?

The built quality of the phones is the major improvement as i know. I *think* X3i has also a better bass reproduction compared to its predecessor.

so 50 hours is the optimum izit?after 30 hours burning in i found out that the x3i's bass is more than enuff for pop,jazz,classical,and rock..but for heavy metal,hip hop i think i still need a lot more bass..as i'm the type that listen and appreciate all genres of songs..i prefer clarity and treble for classi song but i need a lot of bass to listen to my hip hop song..maybe i'm gonna get xbi to satisfiy my needs..

This post has been edited by aizen: Jun 8 2008, 01:53 PM

Uh, there isn't an optimum lah.

It just keeps getting better =D

Mine is running 200+ hours and I still keep let it run in.

Hello all. A not-so-forum newbie here. Only lurk around when I need to buy stuffs and this time around I was looking for a pair of IEMs. After browsing for a week or so I got to know of the Mylarones which are all the rage for this past year. Since their price is also quite nice I decided mebbe I should go for them. Also, since I'm visiting family in Singapore I thought, why not go to Jaben in Adelphi straight? Hehe.

And so I went there today la. The famous Wilson was there also although he was kinda busy at the time and one of his assistants helped me out. I said that I wanted the Mylars but wanna try all 1st. He said no prob and took out all 4 and started from the XBi all the way to SVi. Stupidly my phone adapter buat hal so I had to borrow their iPod which may have been a good thing.

And so the next hour plus was spent auditioning all 4 phones. Each I tried on 3 different music genre since I'm quite a universal listener and I listened to RnB, rock and jazz on the iPod. I found the XBi quite bassy but was still nice and went down each of it's siblings. At last, I decided on the X3i. Not only did I prefer the sound that it gave off but it was the only phone in the Mylar series that made me smile super wide when I put it on. Sorry la cannot elaborate better on the sound coz me no pro audiophile

So I said that I prefer the X3i and actually a bit gatal to try others in the performance range (note: not price range ). So the assistant let me try Westone's UM-1 and later UE's Super.fi 3 (I think la, didn't really ask the model number but after checking on the net I'm quite sure these were the ones given). UM-1 was quite clinical in my opinion, trying hard to separate all the sounds until they became too....separate I liked the UE's not only for the sound but the build quality was substantially better than the Mylars. But when I knew the price was double the Mylars I said, next time la. Start slow2 1st, hehe.

Overall I must say, Jaben is quite a nice place to be. I think when I venture into the headphones world I defo will drop by here again. And since I didn't have an iPod, I got a USB hub as a gift not an iPod case. Not bad la..hehehe.

PS. I got the Rubies That itself took me quite awhile to decide...

This post has been edited by DarkL1ghT: Jun 10 2008, 12:19 PM