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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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kurtkob78
post Apr 13 2018, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 13 2018, 08:00 AM)
There are not enough houses for the mass population and government is doing the best to meet with the high demand.

When some of these dwellers improve their status they would go look for more luxurious houses.

All are positive.
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Yeah right.

The stats says otherwise
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post Apr 17 2018, 10:12 PM

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Malaysia overhang units increase 67.2%

https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1309316/jpp...on-volume-drops

Penang residential overhang increase more than 100%

https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1309579/pen...re-doubles-2017

come flipper comment

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post Apr 17 2018, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(MisterTan @ Apr 17 2018, 10:27 PM)
You are right, i have one affordable condo rm400k and ppl are offering me 550k for it
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post Apr 20 2018, 12:21 PM

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Currenly JPPH / Napic didnt include successful auction props in the calculation of Malaysia house price Index (MHPI)

If jpph account the successful transaction of auction props, im confident the Malaysia house price index (MHPI) will be lower.

My basis:
More auction, less primary and secondary sales. Your more weightage from the auction props and this will lower the MHPI

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post Apr 27 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(killeralta @ Apr 27 2018, 06:25 AM)
Can ask where you find lelong units? Wanna buy an affordable unit for self stay
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search google.

if u dont even know how to search for list. dont go bid for auction yet. Know the high risks first.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 27 2018, 03:29 PM)
I heard auction property financing by bank is not easy. And that buyer has only a small window to secure finance for it. Any opinion on that?
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from my experience big name banks only allow loan amount upto reserve price only.
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QUOTE(JaredC @ Apr 27 2018, 04:45 PM)
What condo is this? No people bid til now means it got problem?
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expensive price problem.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 27 2018, 05:20 PM)
https://www.imoney.my/articles/6-biggest-ri...tioned-property

The risk seems to be alot. How do a bidder avoid all this risk?
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Cannot avoid risk. Thats y dont go bid unless very cheap.
Must calculate all the cost e.g. evicting occupants, repair/ renovation costs, payment of arrears, inflation on your cash expenditures and etc.

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 27 2018, 05:58 PM)
So how much cash I should prepare to get into auction property to cover all this cost ? 20, 30, 40, 50% of the reserve price?
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10% dp
10% cost to title transfer and obtain loan
10% to repair
10% to evict occupants
And extra for payment of arrears

At least 40%

Also u r at risk to lose 10% if unable to settle the purchase price within 90 / 120 days.

Risk is very high on leasehold props
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 27 2018, 06:14 PM)
why is risk higher on leasehold property ? because of the transfer of title ? but the 90/120 days is only for getting the loan correct? not including the transfer of title....
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Because leasehold need consent from local authority
After get consent, title transfer, loan disburse
Before 90/120 days must settle loan disburse or u pay cash

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 27 2018, 06:21 PM)
ic, so they need to transfer of title before loan disburse. This would be an issue... console.gif

Also i've heard leasehold goes for 6 months n above to get authority consent. If this is the case you actually need to prepare 100% of the loan amount just to be prepared in such cases
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Correct. 100% + cost to title transfer
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post Apr 27 2018, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(wongsinyee @ Apr 27 2018, 06:24 PM)
so it's pretty pointless to wait for auction property unless got huge amount of cash
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U think so easy to go with auction. Winning the bid is easy. To Successfully own it is nightmare. Unless u know bery efficient lawyer and pic for consent
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post Apr 28 2018, 09:53 PM

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the leasehold prop under 300k only people buy and less at least 50%
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post Jun 5 2018, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 5 2018, 04:48 PM)
HK scenario the banks already went after the borrower when the market value dip below the loan amount, even when the borrower manage to service their installments.
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Cyberjaya auction prop drop more than 30% already. bank go chase anot ?

btw auction props r not included in Malaysia house price index. thats y didnt see it coming

like previous finance ministry, hiding debt and manipulate economic data
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 11 2018, 04:51 PM)
Historical appreciation proves that property is wealth accretive.

Rental growth is expected and sooner or later cash flow will be positive.

Property investment in residential alone is proven to generate enormous wealth. All properties are expected to be highly correlated in their long term returns. Whether funds invest or not is not important. What is important is we make money.
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residential property investment is controlled and should be discouraged to prevent manipulation.

after 2014 there's very little opportunity to acquire props that have high rental yield and appreciation.

Furthermore, now the focus is on the affordable housings, there's less buyer for subsale market.

Also now there's huge discount for auctioned props

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 11 2018, 06:42 PM)
Auctioned props better dun touch. Less buyer thats why can slowly choose and bargain from subsale. High yield and high capital appreciation I also want.
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i baught three auction props. sold 1. instant profit

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post Jun 11 2018, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jun 11 2018, 08:08 PM)
It is not an assumption. Homeowners are richer than renters. It is a fact.

Just look at historical housing price index. It is trending up long term. Don't be affected by noise. Follow the proven way, not the fund manager's recommendation. They are over paid.
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grandpa didnt speculate when buying the house. they baught for ownstay. different during 2014 and so on

house price index is manipulated. similar to the previous government which manipulate economic data to show the good news for rakyat support.

furthermore, napic didnt include successful transacted auction prop in the index. this need to be looked in the future as primary and secondary sales are at record low, while auction props sales are at record high.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jun 22 2018, 12:38 PM)
Lelong properties are normally by flippers whose banks basically confiscate their property for failing to service their loans.

Banks or financial companies will sell off these assets as 'lelong' units. But that doesn't mean the prices have come down. Some times what is reserve price is just an indicator but actualy sales price can be much higher.

A lower reserve price compared to market value, can be a 'indication' of problems within the unit itself. For example, bad flooring, water damage etc. Especially true for abandoned houses.
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No u got it wrong. Bank set the rp. Bank just want to dispose the units fast. They also are unable to inspect thw inside of props. Your stayement are just your asaumptions
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2018, 10:51 PM)
From 1.35m to min 799k freehold corner lot and still no buyer? What's wrong with this unit?
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because auction unit is risky. under 500k can buy cool2.gif
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post Jun 26 2018, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2018, 11:01 PM)
This is vacant unit. What kind of risks are we talking about?

Sorry, I'm a noob in auctions houses.
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unable to obtain loan,
got caveat,
etc.

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