Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

229 Pages « < 72 73 74 75 76 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

views
     
zephyrus9999
post Jun 22 2018, 10:40 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
649 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Behind U~
QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 22 2018, 10:09 PM)
Did he already sell his prop or his so called 100k gains is just Imaginary based on “market price” quoted by agent?
If prices drops low enough sure won’t take long to consume the existing supply.

Yes it’s unrealistic to expect drop to pre 2009 but quite a few people are expecting that still, being unrealistic. Haha
*
Of course imaginary, end up nego nego become 50 if despo kek
TSicemanfx
post Jun 22 2018, 10:45 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
21,457 posts

Joined: Jul 2012


QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 22 2018, 10:09 PM)
Did he already sell his prop or his so called 100k gains is just Imaginary based on “market price” quoted by agent?
If prices drops low enough sure won’t take long to consume the existing supply.

Yes it’s unrealistic to expect drop to pre 2009 but quite a few people are expecting that still, being unrealistic. Haha
*
Yes if price is low enough, oversupply will be consumed. unless distress no vendor is willing to sell below purchase or market price, hence, need inflation to overwhelm/catch up it. hence, it will take many years for real price to become affordable while nominal price remain stagnant.

another likely headwind facing property market in next few years is liquidity tightening.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 23 2018, 10:25 AM
TSicemanfx
post Jun 23 2018, 12:16 AM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
21,457 posts

Joined: Jul 2012


QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 22 2018, 11:00 PM)
Cheapest landed property you can get in Cyberjaya today via lelong?

No. 21, Jalan Sri Tasik Barat 1D, Summer Glades, Perdana Lakeview West
2 storey terrace, corner lot
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM799,000🔥🔥
Land area: 3186sqft
Freehold with strata title
Auction: 04-Jul-2018 (Wed), high court auction
Unit in lelong market since 2016. First auction reserve price was 1.35M.
Reauction frequency between 3 to 6 months once.
Vacant unit.
*
scorptim
post Jun 26 2018, 05:54 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
700 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
800k++ condo going for below 600k. Who got the cash can go sapu


Villa Pantai Condominium
Property Address: Kondo Villa Pantai, No. 1, Jalan Pantai Murni 8, Pantai Dalam, 59200, Kuala Lumpur
Built Up: 1646 Sq Ft (Approx. RM 344.47 psf)
Auction Price: RM 567,000.00
Auction Date: 14-Jul-2018 (Saturday)
Tenure: Freehold
Restriction: Bumi Lot

In case you guys dunno where this is...if not mistaken now they rename it to saville condo
AskarPerang
post Jun 26 2018, 06:39 PM

~tUPaI...~
*********
All Stars
23,688 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: Outer Space



QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 26 2018, 05:54 PM)
800k++ condo going for below 600k. Who got the cash can go sapu
Villa Pantai Condominium
Property Address: Kondo Villa Pantai, No. 1, Jalan Pantai Murni 8, Pantai Dalam, 59200, Kuala Lumpur
Built Up: 1646 Sq Ft (Approx. RM 344.47 psf)
Auction Price: RM 567,000.00
Auction Date: 14-Jul-2018 (Saturday)
Tenure: Freehold
Restriction: Bumi Lot

In case you guys dunno where this is...if not mistaken now they rename it to saville condo
*
Got a unit sold in lelong for 554k after the reserve price hit below 500k. 1200sqft only: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87453949

But unfortunately the stated reserve price wrongly. Is 630k. So need to wait at least 1 more round since is also bumi lot.

This post has been edited by AskarPerang: Jun 26 2018, 06:42 PM
scorptim
post Jun 26 2018, 06:49 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
700 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 26 2018, 06:39 PM)
Got a unit sold in lelong for 554k after the reserve price hit below 500k. 1200sqft only: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=87453949

But unfortunately the stated reserve price wrongly. Is 630k. So need to wait at least 1 more round since is also bumi lot.
*
This one 1600+ sq feet reserve 630k only? I thought the prop was around 900k for that size. I put 800k as price coz it’s bumi lot. Haha
AskarPerang
post Jun 26 2018, 07:24 PM

~tUPaI...~
*********
All Stars
23,688 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: Outer Space



QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 26 2018, 06:49 PM)
This one 1600+ sq feet reserve 630k only? I thought the prop was around 900k for that size. I put 800k as price coz it’s bumi lot. Haha
*
Yeah current reserve price at 630k. Not 567k as stated above.

scorptim
post Jun 26 2018, 07:27 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
700 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 26 2018, 07:24 PM)
Yeah current reserve price at 630k. Not 567k as stated above.
*
Eh, really ? I saw 567k on prop guru leh posted today. Agent salah post?
AskarPerang
post Jun 26 2018, 07:46 PM

~tUPaI...~
*********
All Stars
23,688 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: Outer Space



QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 26 2018, 07:27 PM)
Eh, really ? I saw 567k on prop guru leh posted today. Agent salah post?
*
Can check at ng chan mau website.
They are the auctioneer for that unit.

So need to wait at least for another round then only worth entering.
jutamind
post Jun 26 2018, 10:51 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,429 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From 1.35m to min 799k freehold corner lot and still no buyer? What's wrong with this unit?

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 23 2018, 12:16 AM)

*
kurtkob78
post Jun 26 2018, 10:59 PM

Do your best
*******
Senior Member
3,833 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Shah Alam


QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2018, 10:51 PM)
From 1.35m to min 799k freehold corner lot and still no buyer? What's wrong with this unit?
*
because auction unit is risky. under 500k can buy cool2.gif
jutamind
post Jun 26 2018, 11:01 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,429 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
This is vacant unit. What kind of risks are we talking about?

Sorry, I'm a noob in auctions houses.

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 26 2018, 10:59 PM)
because auction unit is risky. under 500k can buy  cool2.gif
*
scorptim
post Jun 26 2018, 11:02 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
700 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2018, 10:51 PM)
From 1.35m to min 799k freehold corner lot and still no buyer? What's wrong with this unit?
*
QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 26 2018, 10:59 PM)
because auction unit is risky. under 500k can buy  cool2.gif
*
Auction unit wo, unless you got 799k cash you surely don’t wanna risk losing your DP if you cannot get loan disbursed in 3 months. Props above 500k loan disbursement will take longer than below 500k usually. Very risky.
wild_card_my
post Jun 26 2018, 11:33 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,562 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur

From my experience as a mortgage broker, lelong units are the last units a noobie investor should get into. The risk of losing money is way too high.

The banks have the final say in your loan approval, some banks wont even process lelong units that are not auctioned by themselves.

That is not to say that no one should dabble in it, as per all investment opportunities, you need to learn up down left right front and back before parting with your money.

I have a few clients who lost tens of thousands of ringgit from the defaulted DP... one of them has been paying RM40k for an RM180k~ flat/apartment due to the property being unable to transfer (i took over the case after the fact), and no banks are entertaining her application - but she has already paid the DP, legal, penalty, etc. It is a sorry sight
kurtkob78
post Jun 26 2018, 11:39 PM

Do your best
*******
Senior Member
3,833 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Shah Alam


QUOTE(jutamind @ Jun 26 2018, 11:01 PM)
This is vacant unit. What kind of risks are we talking about?

Sorry, I'm a noob in auctions houses.
*
unable to obtain loan,
got caveat,
etc.
wild_card_my
post Jun 27 2018, 12:16 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,562 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 26 2018, 11:39 PM)
unable to obtain loan,
got caveat,
etc.
*
Caveat is crazy.

Once I managed to get a loan for my customer from a local medium-sized bank. LO signed, then turns out got caveat (hey, i was just helping him with the mortgage, everything else was his due diligence). With POS signed, deposit paid, the bank withdrew the offer because they know it would take too long a time.

Crazy hell. He has to get PLs of about 400k++ just to get the sale through. But sakit la.
TSicemanfx
post Jun 27 2018, 01:41 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
21,457 posts

Joined: Jul 2012


QUOTE(Scarfe @ Jun 27 2018, 11:18 AM)
It is non bumi lot. Actually it was owned by a  Chinese Singapore couple (joint name). Based on the POS. advise I received from auctionlist, there is no issue. Hmm.

This is 5th auction . First auction which is usually the market value was 670k.

Currently, developer selling balance new units (still have 5-6 units) at RM540k.

Original buyer, if not mistaken, they bought at nett 650k during launch few years ago.
*
wild_card_my
post Jun 28 2018, 10:20 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,562 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...its-at-rm22bil/

QUOTE
Unsold 34,500 completed residential units in Malaysia total RM22b


PETALING JAYA: The number of unsold completed residential units – including serviced apartments and small office, home offices (SoHos) – totalled 34,532 worth RM22.26bil for the first quarter of this year, the National Property Information Centre said in its latest report on Property Overhang Q1 2018.

These are cumulative figures from previous years.

This represents an increase of 55.72% in the number of unsold units compared to a year ago, when unsold units totalled 22,175, inclusive of serviced apartments and SoHos, which are built on land zoned as commercial but have a residential element to them.

In ringgit value, this represents a rise of 67.82%, from RM13.27bil a year ago to RM22.26bil as at March 31, 2018. Excluding serviced apartments/SoHos, about a third of all residential units in their respective price segments remained unsold.

Most of the units launched were priced between RM500,000 and RM1mil, of which a third remained unsold.

Those priced between RM300,000 and RM400,000 also saw 33% of the launched units being left on the shelf.

For the first quarter of this year, the number of SoHos and serviced apartments numbered about 48,000, with about 25,000 units located in Johor alone.

Although serviced apartments and SoHos are not found in Kedah and the east coast states, Kelantan, Kedah and Terengganu have the largest number of unsold residential units at 48.08%, 48.20% and 44.20%, respectively.

Ironically, the states with the largest number of serviced apartments and SoHos – Johor, Kuala Lumpur and Selangor – have unsold stock of 29.12%, 13.53% and 17.86%, respectively. Penang has unsold stock of 33.12%.

Increasingly, Melaka is building more serviced apartments, with 1,520 units launched in the first quarter of this year, of which only 130 units were unsold.

PPC International managing director Datuk Siders Sittampalam said the overhang in Malaysia was due to two factors – unaffordable property prices and locations that were less-than-ideal.

“You can’t say there is no demand, because there is latent demand. But one reason for the overhang is because prices of these units are just too high.”

He said the various cooling measures implemented by Bank Negara made it difficult for potential homebuyers to secure financing to purchase property.

“Unless the financing regime changes, this (the overhang situation) will continue,” he said.

Other than high house prices, Siders noted that some properties may not be sold due to poor or limited accessibility.

“Some properties may be built in less-than-ideal locations – they may be too far away to live in or may not have the suitable amenities like proper public transport.

“We can talk of economic factors improving but nothing will change unless these two (affordability and accessibility) factors improve.”

Knight Frank Malaysia managing director Sarkunan Subramaniam said while the overhang situation in the country was high, “it wasn’t at alarming levels.”

“Alarming is when you see abandoned projects or developers going bust. So, the situation is not alarming – but affirmative action needs to be taken.”

He said improvement in the economy would help spur the local property market.

“With the level of transparency being shown by the Pakatan Harapan government, we will see more confidence in the economy. By next year, the overhang situation should reduce.”

Sarkunan said now would be a good time for the central bank to make adjustments to the lending policies.

“The non-performing loan rates ... they haven’t increased by much. People are still holding on to their assets and that is a good sign.”

Sarkunan is also hopeful that the new government would implement clearer policies to help bolster affordable housing developments in the country.

“Under the previous government, there was no clear direction in terms of housing policies, except for affordable housing. Developers did their best to make the sales happen,” he said.

Last November, Bank Negara said the number of unsold residential properties was at a decade high, with a majority of the units in the RM250,000-and-above price range.

However, in spite of large numbers of unsold units, some industry experts still believe that the residential property market is facing an undersupply.

At the 11th Malaysian Property Summit 2018 in January, CBRE|WTW managing director Foo Gee Jen observed that a mismatch of price, location and products had led to this conundrum.

“Based on the population growth rate of 1.3% of 32 million people as of 2016, the annual growth is around 390,000. Based on the average household of four people, we need about 97,500 units per year.

“But annual completions are only at 78,216 units,” Foo said at the summit.

According to him, Bank Negara estimates that average Malaysians can afford houses priced RM250,000 and below.

“But 78.7% of new launches in the first half of 2017 were priced beyond RM250,000,” he said, adding that almost half of the launches (49.8%) comprised units priced over RM400,000, and 25.4% of them were above RM500,000.

The main concerns are distribution of household incomes and distribution of houses in the market, which have contributed to the high overhang.

According to the Valuation and Property Services Department market report, residential property continued to support the overall sector with a 62.4% market share, followed by agriculture property with a 22.5% share.

The residential property market recorded 194,684 transactions worth RM68.47bil in 2017, 4.1% lower in volume compared with 2016. It rose marginally in value terms by 4.4%.

Demand was seen in units priced RM200,000 and below, which accounted for nearly 45% of the residential market volume in 2017.

kurtkob78
post Jun 28 2018, 12:14 PM

Do your best
*******
Senior Member
3,833 posts

Joined: Oct 2006
From: Shah Alam


QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 28 2018, 10:20 AM)
its just a waste of space.
wild_card_my
post Jun 28 2018, 12:22 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,562 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jun 28 2018, 12:14 PM)
its just a waste of space.
*
What is a waste of space?

229 Pages « < 72 73 74 75 76 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0200sec    0.86    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 14th December 2025 - 12:25 AM