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 FundSuperMart v17 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Jan 6 2017, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 6 2017, 03:26 PM)
it is better to check with forummer kimyee as he has some indicator pointers and was reported to be doing well will "gold" funds...
but since it will be just pocket money/loose change...just go in-lor, for the adrenaline rush  thumbsup.gif
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Yea if it's your own money and you can afford to gamble why not smile.gif

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post Jan 7 2017, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Jan 7 2017, 12:53 AM)
Shouldn't the promo only start at 8.45am when the event starts ?
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Started already, just topped up smile.gif

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post Jan 8 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 8 2017, 12:55 AM)
50+ years of history have not show that the ringgit is favorable.  sad.gif
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This country has barely been independent for 50+ years smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 8 2017, 10:31 AM)
Hmm... seems like today also got SC discount  blink.gif  biggrin.gif
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Makes sense, no one at work to change the discount back to 2% smile.gif

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post Jan 8 2017, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 8 2017, 11:22 AM)
I thought that should be system triggered? i.e. once past the day, SC will auto revert to normal?  laugh.gif

Or FSM is being generous here?  laugh.gif
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No one's going to do that much coding for a rare event smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2017, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Jan 8 2017, 03:28 PM)
According to the article, it encourages portfolio rebalancing on annual basis instead of monthly etc. I am wondering if rebalancing on annual basis is practised by most investors here especially when FSM frequently does fund fair / promotion like 0.5% / 0.57% / 1.0% sales charge throughout the year. Perhaps forumers here can share? For myself, I am actually rebalancing on monthly basis, however this have not significantly change my bond & equity proportion.
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Rebalancing done end of year here. All promos ignored unless it's close enough to end of year (like the one on the 7th).
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post Jan 9 2017, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 9 2017, 02:11 AM)
Guys, I think this Saturday I can make some funds available to put into FSM. I haven't created an account yet (want to do it as late as possible to stretch out the one month 1% promo charge).

So just some quick questions to get an idea by when I should do the following:

1) Is the account creation process instantaneous or takes a few days? When to get started?

2) Is it instant to transfer funds into FSM or takes a while? When to do this if I want to have a certain amount of funds available this coming Saturday?

Thanks!
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1) You have to fill in a form and submit a copy of your IC (though email). Should take a day. Alternatively you could go to the office in Menara Standard Chartered, it's a little easier because then you don't have to take a pic of your IC and email it.

2) Takes a day. You can do it through FPX. It's a little scary the first time but you get used to it.
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post Jan 9 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 9 2017, 11:45 AM)
Anyone been tried walk in to fundsupermart office in KL for filling form?
I am thinking do so, since have some free time in KL.
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Done it for both FSM and EUT. Both work, less troublesome, don't have to take a pic of your IC front and back, and email it. Also don't have to print the form and sign it, and then take a pic.

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post Jan 9 2017, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 9 2017, 10:30 AM)
Actually I have to disagree with your conclusion that "how much difference timing can make" by looking at AIYH's portfolio. His portfolio is rather diversified in region. Sure, at the moment his global/developed nations funds are doing great and MY funds are not doing well; but if situation reverses in the next few months assuming Trump is a disaster as expected; then the reverse would happen and his portfolio would still be growing positively on an overall basis albeit lesser compared to those who bet on the right horse every time. But seriously, which retail investor can do that all the time?


This is why diversification works. The only way it will lose money is if there's a global downturn. In that case, it's a good idea to top up smile.gif

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It's very different from what you proposed, to only focus on funds that you think has potential to make a lot in the short term and switch everytime the fund lose steam.


This is a losing strategy because of possible commissions, and lag time. If there's a five-day rally (which is quite long actually) you'd completely miss it even if you switch.

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post Jan 9 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Jan 9 2017, 12:10 PM)
Does it like a bank need take number of just a very simple office with counter only?
I was intended to fill form for transfer and also filling epf switch form.
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Simple office with counter, usually there's no queue. You tell them you want to register, they ask you to take a seat. Then you take a seat, and someone comes out with the forms and a pen. Then you fill it up, hand them your IC to photocopy, and then later he returns with your IC and says you are registered. In a day the system will update and you will get an email (make sure your email address is written clearly.)

After that follow the instructions in the email and you should be in.
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post Jan 9 2017, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 9 2017, 08:06 PM)
FSM 0% Manulife 0.83%. I expect it be positive.
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You're right, the price is wrong smile.gif that is Friday's price smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2017, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 9 2017, 10:10 PM)
I'll try. I'm currently stuck at the distribution date calculation. not that good when distributions happen. hate when it happens.
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You're not the only one. Wish they would just do away with dividends, they serve no purpose.
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post Jan 9 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 9 2017, 10:00 PM)
Brothers I need some help,

I switched eastspring small cap to Eastspring Global Emerging markets somewhere in November. I wanted to compare the scenario of holding vs switching around the time I made that decision but eastspring small cap had a distribution the other day so that skewered the comparison.

here's my historical transaction

Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund 2016-12-01 4,739.37 RM 0.6678 - 0.00% RM 3,164.95

Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets Fund 2016-12-01 RM 3,164.95 - RM 0.3087 10,252.51

this would be a good case study for argument holding vs active switching that we had a few days. the problem is that the distribution, I don't know if I actually made money from it or not. how do you compute this
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I'd wait till the end of the year before I make any judgments. What seems like a good idea now, may not be at the end of the year smile.gif
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post Jan 10 2017, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 9 2017, 09:55 PM)
Must be different date. But if in doubt, the own Unit Trust Management Company webpage's NAV should overide any third party website's NAV.

Xuzen
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Same date, I checked. Emailed them, will probably get a reply tomorrow.
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post Jan 10 2017, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 10 2017, 01:34 AM)
Guys, I just noticed that the funds using foreign mother funds are all lagged one day behind the stated NAV date. Like for example, the US markets are still open yet there is a price for the Schroeder Small and Mid-Cap Fund used by the RHB US Focus Equity Fund for the date of 9 Jan 2016, which should be impossible. This is true for all RHB, CIMB, TA etc funds that are based on a foreign mother fund.

So, essentially when the date is stated as 9 Jan, it is actually showing the results from 6 Jan.

However, this is not true for purely local in-house operated funds, be they Malaysian or SEA/APAC/Asian funds.

Just thought this is an interesting thing to share with you all.
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Where would you find a price for either dated 9/1 ?
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post Jan 10 2017, 06:14 PM

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So I emailed them about the price discrepancy in Manulife US Equity, and it turns out they did make a mistake. They have corrected the price, well spotted smile.gif
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post Jan 11 2017, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 11 2017, 07:48 PM)
I am considering going all in on US funds soon but retaining 20% local. The Asia/APAC/GC funds have all kind of over performed so far these past 2-3 weeks, and they will likely run out of steam when Trump gets inaugurated. Meanwhile the US funds have been mixed, so far with no substantial returns.

I need to do some more research but I am very worried about the strength of the Asian performance. I am nearly 6% on GC and 4.5% on Asia/APAC funds. Surely it has to hit a slump soon...

Stay tuned as I do more research on this matter.

What do you guys think? Will Jan 20 signal a reversal of fortunes in the short term (3-6 months) for US funds, at the expense of EM/APAC funds?
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Hoa long have you held them? also is that net of commissions?

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post Jan 11 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 11 2017, 09:25 PM)
2 weeks. Since 27th December.
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Ok.. now that I've looked it over, I think you are reading something very wrong smile.gif that's why you think they are overperforming, which funds do you have now?

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post Jan 12 2017, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2017, 01:44 AM)
It's true man. Look at the performance of the Asian/AsiaPac/China funds below. Compare it to the Global/US/EU funds. It's clear to see the rally in the Asian stocks vs Developed markets. Soon the tables will be turned.

Day to day performance gain/loss:

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Cumulative raw performance gain:

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Quite amazing, managed to buy at the low smile.gif did you actually plan to buy at the low?

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post Jan 12 2017, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jan 12 2017, 06:49 AM)
What you observed is correct, but you only caught the later part of the curves.

The earlier part of the curves were that US has been going up and up sharply since after presidential election, and during the time China was up and down and averagely flat, and APAC was all the way one direction going down !

The question is whether when reading trends, are we supposed to only account for the latest trend or we should also consider the earlier ones.

In other words you entered the Asia market at the best timing when there was a flow of foreign fund back to Asia, and US seems to be at the tail of the Trump effect ( which I suspect still have some further rooms ).

My reading of the trend.  sweat.gif
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Yes, wish I knew how he did that. Somehow he forecasted a six-week low and bought at almost the exact day smile.gif

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